Who is your "Mentor"?

Southpaw said:
I have been fortunate enough to encounter many great teachers/ players over the years that really took the time to teach me different aspects of the game. Some that come to the top of my mind are Stick (stick8 on here), Jim Jennings and last but certainly not least...Bruce Berrong. They have all given me tips and knowlege of the game that some may never come by in a lifetime.

Southpaw
Thank you for those kind words southpaw, good to know that what little i could pass along helped. i swore when i could help someone i would , as comming up no one helped me i learned the hard way ,I payed to play!! players no dont know how well they have it as they have teachers, dvd, t.v. and many ways to help there game. but i love to see the young guns shoot!!! but my heart stayes with the old guys.HALL, REMPE, SEGIL, HOPPKINS, MATHEWS,HARPER,BULL,CHICPEE MILTON, I COULD GO ON AND ON . as i have good memerioies of all thes guys!!! well enough ,but thanks again you man a old man heart and eyes swell up !!!!:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
LEON LEDFORD - He got ahold of me when I was at my worst. I was an 18yr old degenerate, who was headed to one of two places, dead, or in jail. Because of him I separated from all of my troubled friends, and took up this great game of ours! I owe him everything, he saved my life, and not to mention I'm a pretty damn good player because of him!
Jeremy
 
Yes, Roy is Great ...

Fatboy said:
Roy Futternick is my Mentor in pool and alot of things in life, he is amazing.

You blew me away with that name ... He is not only a great player, but a wealth of knowledge when it comes to Cues and Cuemakers ... Roy, Guido Ordlandi, and I have talked for hours on many occasions about the Game, The Players, The Tables and Equipment, and Cues / Cuemakers in general ...

I used to see him often at The Jointed Cue, but haven't spotted him there for quite some time ... Sure hope he is doing okay ...

Thanks, FatBoy, for a trip down memory lane ...
 
My Dad got me hooked on pool when he ran the VFW when I was about 12. We would go in before opening and me and my buddy would shoot pool until they opened and then we had to go home.

My mentor was a one legged guy named Rusty who taught me alot about kicking and banking, and running rails. He was/is still one helluva player.

Gotta give some respect to iba7467 here on the boards for teaching me my new safety game. I used to be a banger and very rarely shot a safety. At the time I was like 2-2 or so in 9ball during league play. I won 8 straight league matches after that beating people my rank all the way up to 7.
 
SJDinPHX said:
Jake,

I hope Chad and Don were good teachers, because Jack Madden doesn't know s--t about pool. I know, because I mentored him.
I will say this he is a fast learner, he was able to absorb my vast store of knowledge in only 5 minutes.:D

Dick

PS Isn't it amazing how such a spastic at pool can make such beautiful cues ?:thumbup:


About the closest person to a mentor for me would have been Don Rose....I used to go play in a tournament just so I could pick his brain for a few minutes. He had a way of making you feel good about your game (no matter how bad your were)

That is about the closest to a "mentor" as I have ever had...I pretty much had to just rely on overhearging a tip from people along the lines.

There have been many people that I have overheard "mentor like" tips from.

SJD....If you ever need someone to "mentor" let me know...I would love to add you to the list of people I have learned something from...and I am only borderline spastic...and a farily quick learner!!!
 
eventhough I dont have a real mentor, I would like to thank those pool junkies for showing me some of their shots that I learned just by watching them. and also I would like to thank the AZB community, for giving me the motivation to get a bit serious at pool, learn from members who have some deeper knowledge on technique and proper attitude, etc...

I must admit that such knowledge that I acquired and applied in practice, had greatly improved my game.
 
rellek said:
Mark Bartee -

He taught me how to play under pressure, by throwing empty beer cans at me while I was shooting...

If you played in a REAL pool hall, he'd be throwing full ones at you.
On the other hand, that would be not as much fun on his part, he would loose the emptying of the beer can beforehand.

"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball".
 
No Mentor(s)

Milo said:
I like to give credit where credit is due. Many players have helped me along the way, some I would call a mentor because he/she took the time to care about me and my pool game. Many of us would be nowhere without the wisdom and knowledge of these very giving players who share their information. These are my mentors.
My dad has always been there since the beginning. He helps me with my mental game.(he used to be a competitive golfer)
My BCA teammate, Cindy Doty, has given me her invaluable wisdom. She has taught me to believe in myself.
My scotch partner and teacher, Glen Atwell, has taught me a higher level of play.
My husband is the catalyst behind me. He is my cornerman. I am certainly a very lucky girl!!!!

I would love to hear your story of your mentors??

(I decided to write this thread to support a positive environment on this site) (Hope this helps)

I've never had a mentor for pool. What does that mean? Am I a total loser?
I feel kind of depressed reading about all these people with mentors.:(
 
Mine has changed as I have moved and been around different people.

The one that I would attribute most to and feel mentored me more than anyone was Junior Goff. I was lucky that for some reason he liked me and
took me a bit under his wing. If I had half of his stroke I would be lucky.
Thanks Lefty :thumbup:

After that I hung around Bruce Berrong quite a bit. While he shoots like the devil he was tough to extract info out of. However every now and then he would come up and say some things that really really helped.
Great player that I wished realized how good he can be!

I have always been open and probably asked too many questions. When i first started playing I went to the good pool room and watched for hours for about 2-3 weeks. Then I asked a few questions and started getting answers. I have not quit since.
While I might not always understand or agree with the others thoughts I store them up. Sometimes many years later something clicks and it all makes since.

Now I bounce ideas off of people around me.. one of them is an AZer
and I appreciate all of his input .. Thanks Frank --- aka DaBarber
 
Milo said:
I like to give credit where credit is due. Many players have helped me along the way, some I would call a mentor because he/she took the time to care about me and my pool game. Many of us would be nowhere without the wisdom and knowledge of these very giving players who share their information. These are my mentors.
My dad has always been there since the beginning. He helps me with my mental game.(he used to be a competitive golfer)
My BCA teammate, Cindy Doty, has given me her invaluable wisdom. She has taught me to believe in myself.
My scotch partner and teacher, Glen Atwell, has taught me a higher level of play.
My husband is the catalyst behind me. He is my cornerman. I am certainly a very lucky girl!!!!

I would love to hear your story of your mentors??

(I decided to write this thread to support a positive environment on this site) (Hope this helps)

I was pretty lucky and grew up around top notch players (Ernesto Dominguez, Rafael Martinez, Morro Paez, Efren Reyes, Jose Parica, Mark Tadd, Kim Davenport, Frank Almanza, Keith McCready, Chris McDonald, Cecil Tugwell, and Jay Swanson (RIP), to name a few) and I worked out of Hard Times Billiards and Hollywood Billiards where all the best players came from all over the country (globe sometimes) to compete.

The only player that directly helped me with advice or lessons, were Nick Varner, Cole Dickson, and just within the last couple years Frank Almanza.

I learned mostly by watching, reading magazine articles and getting out there challenging these guys.

Today, I still really do not have a mentor, but I do have two role models within the billiards industry and they are Allen Hopkins and Nick Varner. Both Hall of Famers, World Champions, and smart businessmen with an impeccable record of honesty.

Both of these men have successfully made a living within this industry for over 30 years, and they just keep going, and going, and going...

My hat is off to them. I am lucky enough to know both men and will be picking their brains as often as they let me :thumbup:
 
TY for sharing.

Want to thank everyone for sharing your storys. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. We are certainly very lucky to have some good people out there to help us. I always try to follow suit and help players that are coming up. I try to give back what I have recieved when I can.
 
okinawa77 said:
I've never had a mentor for pool. What does that mean? Am I a total loser?
I feel kind of depressed reading about all these people with mentors.:(


LOL.....I kinda feel like you too!

I picked up/got interested in the game at first by purely just sitting down and watching all the regulars gamble (everyday) at Hawaiian Brians.

As I started to play and excel....none of my family/boyfriends/friends/or anyone really suported my new found love. In fact, they down right hated it.

So, my new family became the "pool hall guys". I learned a lot from everybody at Brian's. Brian "Hawaiian Brian" Hashimoto, Rodney "Rocket" Morris, Richard "Aki" Akimoto - were probably the few people who actually took some time to give me pointers here and there when I asked for it. Everything else I learned by gambling with the "guys". Thru all the loses and wins came all my lessons too - so I give all of the Brian's "guys" their due for helping me excel. It was hard at time...they were never "light" on me - they treated me like a guy and expected me to preform like one too...lol!

Later on...when I met Alex....I learned A LOT more. When you catch him in a serious mood, he can be one of the best givers of advice. He sees the difference in everyones game and can critique it very simply for you. You can ask him a question (a serious one) and he can give you a very different outlook on how to come across a shot/runout/or anything. And if you are not stubborn...you will see the knowledge he has, and understand what i takes to get to that next level of play. Also, everyone in Canada was so very friendly and supportive and helpful. Anything regarding pool - practicing, using their cues, or even just a ride to the hall....Canadians have much "aloha"!!!! Paul Thornley (Alex's Yoda) is a library of information about anything regarding billiard in general - cues, shafts, playing, shot-making, tips, cloth, snooker, 9-ball, people, places, whatever - he is the "all" knowing.

And yes, Ronnie Wiseman....if anything he's a good mentor of life and keeping yourself in check (to me - because everyone has their own opinions and might not agree).

Phoebe
 
okinawa77 said:
I've never had a mentor for pool. What does that mean? Am I a total loser?
I feel kind of depressed reading about all these people with mentors.:(


I'm with ya there. I'm not a great player and never had a mentor in definition, but many people here and there in the rooms have helped me with shots I missed consistantly and don't anymore. Thanks to them I suppose.
 
After many years of playing this game, I can only think of one real mentor. Early on, when I first started playing regularly I was taught some of the finer points of the game from an old hustler named Ray "the Rabbit" Burchard. He had quit playing much by that time and was in business as a building contractor. But he would occasionally stop in to the bar I frequented. We hit it off well and I ended up learning a lot from him. This lasted less than a year.

After that, I was on my own. I'm not a good student anyway and I always seem to learn things the hard way.

Oddly enough, I'm considered a mentor to a lot of players right now. If I see someone with an intense interest in the game, I will freely help them out. Still, they have to ask me. I won't volunteer information very often unless she's a hot babe.:D
 
My Mentor:
I have been lucky to be around some of the best players in the south for many years now with the likes of stevie moore,larry nevel,bruce berrong,jim jennings,randy burris,bryan and billy tyler,and a few more.But i would have to owe most of my knowlege for the game coming from non other than the great and all knowing "STICK" KYTLE.In all the years growing up stick spent many hours showing,teaching me many asspects of the game.

I have many things come to my mind of the things that stick helped me with but one of the most outstanding qualities that showed up in stick's teaching me over the years was the TRUE FRIENDSHIP that he provided me with.I would say that this is one gentleman that if you have an oppertunity to take lessons from that it will diffinently provide alot of future knowledge to your game.
THANKS FOR EVERYTHING STICK
SHANE WADE AKA "_ _ _ _ _ _"
P.S. JUST DON'T LET HIM TRY TO P/U
ANY WOMEN FOR YOU!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
Blackjack said:
For me, I have several. Starting with Cisero Murphy, who took the time to teach me things that I would have never figured out by myself. He was a great person and a great man, and he taught me just as many lessons about life as he did about pool.

Players
Buddy Hall has had such a big influence on me.
Back in the early 80's I would watch Buddy shoot for hours and hours and hours. I watched everything he did with the cue ball and tried to emulate his cue ball movements when I was at the table. IMO, Buddy Hall was the "John Wayne" of all pool players. When he walked through the door everybody stopped and you could actually feel the respect that everybody had for "The Man".

Harry Sexton was one of the most incredible people that I ever met. He helped me through some really tough times in my life and I will always be grateful that the man upstairs placed him in my life.

Tony Ellin - If it was not for Tony's suggestion of - "That's pretty good man, you should write this down... you should write a book!" - then I wouldn't be teaching pool today. That is the thing about life, you never know where these forks in the road are, or where you have to turn, but we do get direction and guidance along the way.

Also -

Tony Robles - If we want to have pool hit the mainstream, we need more people like Tony Robles. He is the consummate gentleman and the model for professionalism in our game. I have immeasurable respect for Tony as a player, as a person, and as a friend.

Danny Harriman - Danny is a champion on and off the table. He has been through so much and he has shown me that you can fight your way back to the top of the ladder as long as you believe in yourself and in God. I am so proud of what Danny has done in the past 3 years to reestablish himself as one of the best players in the game. It humbles me to know that I played a small role in that, and I am proud to call Danny one of my best friends.

Teaching & Coaching
Hal Mix once told me that there is no such things as good or bad knowledge. He taught me that knowledge is either useful or useless - depending upon the individual that is trying to apply it. He was a kind and generous man who loved to help pool players. He was just an incredible person and he has had a major influence on the way that I view teaching.

Randy Goettlicher - I met Randy through my friend Gilbert Griego back in 1987 when Randy was helping us set up the Southwest Eight Ball League. We met in a conference room of a hospital in El Paso to discuss how to start the league. As a "new" room owner, I decided to show up that night at Gilbert's request. How was I to know that I would meet somebody that night that would change the way I looked at the game of pool?

Randy, you have no idea how much those conversations that we had changed the way I looked at the game of pool in every aspect. I know you were looking at me the whole time wondering... what the hell is this kid doing owning and running a pool hall at his age??? LOL...

You have always been there with words of wisdom at some of the best and worst of times (like the comment you made to me about having drawn Cowboy Jimmy Moore in the first round) - The College of Pool Knowledge - I want you to know that I consider you a major influence on the way that I teach the game of pool and the game of life. The high quality of instruction in our game is what it is today because of your hard work and dedication. If we had everybody working half as hard as you do, there would be no limit to how far we could go. IMO, you're the best there is. Plain and simple.


Thanks Blackjack.

I remember the answer about drawing the great "Cowboy Jimmy Moore" in the first round. Why don't you share the comment with this board.

Keep up the great work....SPF=randyg
 
thanks

wade said:
My Mentor:
I have been lucky to be around some of the best players in the south for many years now with the likes of stevie moore,larry nevel,bruce berrong,jim jennings,randy burris,bryan and billy tyler,and a few more.But i would have to owe most of my knowlege for the game coming from non other than the great and all knowing "STICK" KYTLE.In all the years growing up stick spent many hours showing,teaching me many asspects of the game.

I have many things come to my mind of the things that stick helped me with but one of the most outstanding qualities that showed up in stick's teaching me over the years was the TRUE FRIENDSHIP that he provided me with.I would say that this is one gentleman that if you have an oppertunity to take lessons from that it will diffinently provide alot of future knowledge to your game.
THANKS FOR EVERYTHING STICK
SHANE WADE AKA "_ _ _ _ _ _"
P.S. JUST DON'T LET HIM TRY TO P/U
ANY WOMEN FOR YOU!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
thanks son , your words are to kind!! it does a old man good to see some of his knolige has found a home.and i wont reveal you aka------S.M. STICK:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Rift said:
I'm with ya there. I'm not a great player and never had a mentor in definition, but many people here and there in the rooms have helped me with shots I missed consistantly and don't anymore. Thanks to them I suppose.

Yeah, I've had pool playing acquaintances/buddies/friends, and we've exchanged tid bits of knowledge, but I have never had someone make a significant impact on me, as far as pool playing.
 
Mentors...

There have been many people that have showed me better ways to do things on pool or billiard tables. Most were lifer's at this wonderful, sometimes frustrating game. Jerry Briesath comes to mind first, for advice on pausing to focus on the object ball before the final stroke, and he gave me this advice after I beat his son in the finals of one of Jerry's tournaments! Another great bit of wisdom came from none other than former world champ Willie Munson. He made it very clear to me that there is no room for anger when it comes to playing well. Sometimes tough to remember that, but most definately true. Couple of old timers on the billiards table at the original Romine's High Pockets (on Wisconsin Avenue in Milwaukee), named Gilley and Harvey, gave me a trick or two on the right way to shoot billiards. More than these, but the mind goes and it's tough to recall everyone else. My thanks to all of them!
 
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