A 147 in Snooker is equivalent to running a 5-pack in 9-ball. Shape and potting is everything.
Who knows what "center cue ball" control is about? Robin Dreyer knows and teaches this concept.
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I think a 147 is as rare as an 8-pack in nine-ball. Snooker position play, in my opinion, requires greater skill and greater precision than nine-ball requires.
And a huge tool to have in your toolbox.
Completely disagree, I've played snooker and at my BEST I've had a four pack in 9B, ain't now way I'm getting close to a 147 in snooker, nope, not going to happen.
I think SJM is close at an 8 pack, but even then it's totally dependent on what player we're talking about.
I think the degrees of precision starts with the degree of precision in the path and velocity of the tip through the ball. Which leads to the pocketing and premium shape. Interesting to see the average break numbers for the top players. Less than perfect shape produces smaller breaks. Even when Judd could fire in the most incredible shots, his cue ball often left another. Those shots wear a person down. Ronnie took on the hard stuff but kept the cue ball in a zone. Often leaving multiple options in the event of the ball falling in. At the same time his opponent was looking at a tester when the ball didn't find the pocket.
Yep, since I don't play competitively anymore I have been trying to just have fun and I go through different stages, stun-run was one of those stages - how hard can I hit the OB and have the CB sit still, or move left an inch, etc. It gets pretty hard to control it when you start hitting it at break speed, but it's doable.
What’s up Colt and Co.? I’m trying to picture this in my head. Let me know if I’m way off base:
1. Set up a dead scratch shot with another ball sitting on the tangent line aboot a half diamond away.
2. Depending on cut angle and shot distance, shoot a center ball shot, so the cue ball comes forward of the tangent line and avoids the other ball and the scratch.
I have a copy of Phil Cappelle’s Practicing Pool (2006) where variations of this shot are used almost exclusively throughout chapter 5. For those with the book, the shot labelled, “The Bends” is very similar. In my copy I highlighted, “the cue ball will follow closer to the tangent line for a longer time on thin cuts and with high speed. It will leave the line quicker the further you hit from center.”
1. Set up a dead scratch shot with another ball sitting on the tangent line aboot a half diamond away.
2. Depending on cut angle and shot distance, shoot a center ball shot, so the cue ball comes forward of the tangent line and avoids the other ball and the scratch.
I have a copy of Phil Cappelle’s Practicing Pool (2006) where variations of this shot are used almost exclusively throughout chapter 5. For those with the book, the shot labelled, “The Bends” is very similar. In my copy I highlighted, “the cue ball will follow closer to the tangent line for a longer time on thin cuts and with high speed. It will leave the line quicker the further you hit from center.”
For me, this is too narrow an assessment. The 'science' of center ball is first and foremost
Center Ball.
Then, EVERYTHING that transpires post stroke. Kinda Nazi but precision is that important.
I concern myself with the post contact activity zone right around the initial carom. It's here that you learn the parameters of speed and _direction_. The latter being way too generalized among the general population; something on the order of, "if the ball went, who cares?"
The best way to familiarize yourself is to start at strict center ball, paying close attention to how the cue ball acts as it takes the carom exit - throughout the range of your abilities.
Starting here will also provide a point to start experimenting with minimal english and stroke accuracy; stroke probably being another field entirely.
Just noticed PJ's post and absolutely that too...
lol...
Still personal effort no matter who told you.
If you want to test center ball control, shoot the cue ball from a corner pocket area at object balls
that you will place individually at different staggered distances in a straight line from the cue ball
aimed at the opposite corner pocket. Try at least 5 different solitary object balls by themselves that
you will position at various distances from the cue ball. Now pocket that object ball and then keep
the cue ball rolling in line with the pocket. Sometimes try making the cue ball go in the same pocket
as the OB. I am not disagreeing with what been already stated. I’m simply saying this reinforces you
to maintain a straight stroke and if it isn’t in the center, the cue ball won’t roll the way you want it too.
that you will place individually at different staggered distances in a straight line from the cue ball
aimed at the opposite corner pocket. Try at least 5 different solitary object balls by themselves that
you will position at various distances from the cue ball. Now pocket that object ball and then keep
the cue ball rolling in line with the pocket. Sometimes try making the cue ball go in the same pocket
as the OB. I am not disagreeing with what been already stated. I’m simply saying this reinforces you
to maintain a straight stroke and if it isn’t in the center, the cue ball won’t roll the way you want it too.
Hit it lighter and lower.
You must loo inward grasshoppa...
YIKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah that should read loo_K_ inwards...
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Pssst.... If you hit the ball below center and use a firm stroke the cue ball will go in reverse.
Much better than looing inwards for sure.
Following the CB into the pocket sounds like the Mighty X that Corey Deuel talks about in this video but, it's not quite what stun-thru is. Great drill for keeping/getting your stroke straight and I've done it 100's of times over the last few years, but it's slightly different than stun-thru. Maybe I misread your post though?
No way!