Who needs pocket liners?

Ralph Kramden

Ralph Kramden

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Someone was talking about buying pocket liners to tighten their pockets.

I told him to just stay inside of the ball wear lines that run into the pockets
trying not to hit the pocket facings unless the OB angle is close to the rail.

That wouldn't tighten the pockets but would tighten the OB aiming point.

Just an idea for pocketing balls that you may want to try when practicing.

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Ralph Kramden said:
Someone was talking about buying pocket liners to tighten their pockets.

I told him to just stay inside of the ball wear lines that run into the pockets
trying not to hit the pocket facings unless the OB angle is close to the rail.

That wouldn't tighten the pockets but would tighten the OB aiming point.

Just an idea for pocketing balls that you may want to try when practicing.

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That's a bit interesting.

I played on Brunswicks & coin tables most of playing time. Over the years, I developed a subconscious trend to shade balls to the near rail because if you catch that rail the ball can still go but if you miss the pocket on the other side there is no way that the ball can go.

Then the last few years I have been playing on Diamonds with 4" pockets & two that may have been special ordered with 3 7/8" pockets. On those 2 a ball can roll parallel to a long rail & be only 1/4" from the rail & the ball will not pocket. I checked it several times.

So... when shooting on those 2 tables I have to make a conscious effort to make sure that I hit them without shading to that rail because even if I don't hit the rail that ball will not go. They have to be farther in but without hitting the rail.

It really is a bit ridiculous. I call them Devils in a Blue Dress.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick
 
ENGLISH! said:
That's a bit interesting.

I played on Brunswicks & coin tables most of playing time. Over the years, I developed a subconscious trend to shade balls to the near rail because if you catch that rail the ball can still go but if you miss the pocket on the other side there is no way that the ball can go.

Then the last few years I have been playing on Diamonds with 4" pockets & two that may have been special ordered with 3 7/8" pockets. On those 2 a ball can roll parallel to a long rail & be only 1/4" from the rail & the ball will not pocket. I checked it several times.

So... when shooting on those 2 tables I have to make a conscious effort to make sure that I hit them without shading to that rail because even if I don't hit the rail that ball will not go. They have to be farther in but without hitting the rail.

It really is a bit ridiculous. I call them Devils in a Blue Dress.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick
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Very true Rick. With 4" pockets the amount of clearance for the CB to enter the pocket is small. Running straight
down the short rail is much easier than if the OB is 5" off the rail. It won't pocket if you touch that rail at any point.
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Pocket Liners

Ralph Kramden said:
Someone was talking about buying pocket liners to tighten their pockets.

I told him to just stay inside of the ball wear lines that run into the pockets
trying not to hit the pocket facings unless the OB angle is close to the rail.

That wouldn't tighten the pockets but would tighten the OB aiming point.

Just an idea for pocketing balls that you may want to try when practicing.

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If you are cooking stew in the pockets you will definitely need pocket liners otherwise the pocket gets greasy and you cant get the balls out!
 
336Robin said:
If you are cooking stew in the pockets you will definitely need pocket liners otherwise the pocket gets greasy and you cant get the balls out!
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My choice of words wasn't the best for what I was trying to describe.
Guess what I should have said was spring opening pocket 'tightners'.. :sorry:
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Ralph Kramden said:
Inside does help when the OB is frozen to the rail.
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Yes, the rail first possibility gives a second chance at a good hit. Another popular theory is that it makes the OB "hug the rail" - unfortunately that one's wishful thinking.

I like shooting rail-frozen OBs as if the rail isn't there (it takes some practice to ignore it, especially since the rail is such a strong visual cue for aiming the shot).

pj
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Center/Center as much as possible when using TOI on these shots.

Ralph Kramden said:
Inside does help when the OB is frozen to the rail.
Inside is harder when the OB is 6" off the end rail.

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I would recommend using Center/Center as much as possible when using TOI on these shots.....especially when the balls are more than 4' apart. When closer, it's okay to use Center/Edge when the ball is a "half ball" angle or more. You will want to hit the ball slightly first, unless you're using more than "a touch" of inside.
 
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