Who says women can't break???

sjm said:
On the WPBA, the two best breaks belong to Ga Young Kim and Tiffany Nelson.


Hardest or best?

But either way i have to disagree-not rabidly but disagree nevertheless.
 
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smittie1984 said:
Basically what I was told is that in golf. Though almost any woman who picks up a stick can play better than I. I have more potential being a man. Basically a woman pro will out do any man but never beat a decent pro-male. The reason being is the male has better hand eye cordination. And certain key muscles develope better. Muscles we can't see but use say in our forearm. Aparently this was developed from the hunter gatherer male of back in the day.

Yet men don't have the managing skills of a woman.

Michelle Wie has an average drive of 277 yards. That is good enough to compete with the guys in my opinion. I don't really buy the theory that men have better hand eye coordination. Womens golf is steadily improving and getting closer and closer to being on par with mens golf.

The same can be said for womens pool. Women haven't had a professional circuit for very long, not nearly as long as the men anyways. Furthermore they haven't even been allowed in a pool room for very long.

Competition has to evolve and I think Womens pool is evolving quite nicely. They are breaking harder than ever and running more racks than ever. Unfortunately we don't get to see how good these girls are very often because their televised tournaments are alternate breaks, which is not conducive to having many racks run out.

On a side note, the girl I mentioned earlier was breaking so hard at one point that I decided to play some 14.1:D
 
Nostroke said:
Hardest or best?

But either way i have to disagree-not rabidly but disagree nevertheless.

Have to defer to you on this one. What I can say is that in the events I've attended over the past few years, Ga Young Kim has dominated more matches with her break than any other player I've watched.

Tiffany has trhe hardest break, if not the most effective.

Of course, I'll be at Peoria, so I can bring my views on this subject up to date then.
 
Cameron Smith said:
Womens golf is steadily improving and getting closer and closer to being on par with mens golf.

The same can be said for womens pool.

women's sport is improving faster because the women have farther to go. but don't make the assumption that the gap will continue to close forever. they will slow down considerably as they reach their limit.
 
bruin70 said:
women's sport is improving faster because the women have farther to go. but don't make the assumption that the gap will continue to close forever. they will slow down considerably as they reach their limit.


Check out this marathon chart- The women's record times are going straight down practically while the men's are barely inching ahead. It doesnt look good for the men here for sure.

http://www.marathonguide.com/history/records/
 
I like Tiffany Nelson's break, she displays a lot of power and control with her break. Well, my opinion is a bit biased since she is breaking with a X Breaker.:D Tiffany is the record holder of the fastest break on the wpba.

It is impossible not to mention Sarah Rousey's break when you want to mention the woman with a hugh break. Her timing is just amazing!

Richard
 
I myself do find it kinda humorous when i see women who are half my size and yet break like some of the men.

And yes, girls like Sarah, Tiffany, Helena, Ga-young and several others have unbelievable breaks. It makes me wonder if i am doing something wrong lol.

Last session i had a girl on my 8ball team who always broke from the center of the table, and could just kill a 8ball rack. Now this girl is about 5'7 and 140lbs or so, and seriously was able to break just as hard as the guys in our league. But she was only a SL4.

Now i think this helped her alot,, one day i picked up her cue to shoot a couple shots with it just messing around, and damn!!! It was a LOG, had to be about 23oz's

dave
 
bruin70 said:
there's no follow through necessarily in the same manner as the golf swing. there are players who exagerrate their follow through, there are those who simply snap at the cb.

and they're not swinging their arm across their body anyway.

You dont hold your pool cue across your body when you stroke it? Must be off to the side of your body when you bend over to shoot then.....I know a girl who is an APA player around where I live and she used to try and rest her cue between her breasts when she stroked. I convinced her to rest it to the side (sort of between her right breast and her underarm...hard to explain without seeing), and now she plays atleast a ball better than she did. She follows through better and her break improved b/c of that also.

Southpaw
 
Southpaw said:
You dont hold your pool cue across your body when you stroke it? Must be off to the side of your body when you bend over to shoot then.....I know a girl who is an APA player around where I live and she used to try and rest her cue between her breasts when she stroked. I convinced her to rest it to the side (sort of between her right breast and her underarm...hard to explain without seeing), and now she plays atleast a ball better than she did. She follows through better and her break improved b/c of that also.

Southpaw
Did you give her a "hands on" demonstration? Sometimes to be an effective teacher you really have to get in there and do the dirty work.:D
 
I think it's partly about learned (as opposed to innate) coordination and fast-twitch muscle reaction. As boys, at least in the US, many of us are taught at a young age to throw a ball, to swing a bat or golf club or tennis racquet, all of which involved a well-timed and very coordinated rapid muscle contractions. I think if a scrawny and slow boy learns to throw a baseball at 5 years old, and a bigger, stronger, and faster girl doesn't really learn to throw until she joins the softball team at 13, that boy is miles ahead of that girl in terms of the coordination it takes to have a good pool break. Also his muscles have been conditioned better for rapid contraction.

I'm not saying this is true of every boy and every girl, but I think in general it's a strong trend that boys are encouraged to develop this type of coordination earlier in their lives than girls are, at least in the US. It may not be as true today as it was 15 or 20 years ago, but the champion players today started developing their coordination 15 years ago or more.

-Andrew
 
I think a hard break is good for show but if you want to make balls a med. hard controlled break is where it's at....I used to crush 'em and end up dry at least 50% of the time....then I seen Allison using her soft break and thought "Hmmm, maybe I'll try that." So at the next tourney I was in I break with softer and control the CB and low and behold the balls couldn't wait to get to the pockets...:D ...I had three balls run to same pocket like a train...and a very easy out...gotta like that...
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