Who Will Be 1st Promoter Of 15 Ball
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I wish folks would quit calling it "Filipino" rotation...the U.S. Navy brought that game to the Phillipines after WWII; it started here in the good ole USA and was pretty popular. The only reason I know anything about it is it was the first game I learned how to play from my Grandpa. Since he passed, I haven't found anyone that knows how to play it. 
I really like Joe Tucker's take on it and love to play 15 ball as a drill for other games, but you really should give Straight Rotation a shot...it really is a great game and I think at the pro level it would draw players/fans from all disciplines, as it's got a little bit of everything and B/Rs are very rare. The only real difference I noticed is the 60 vs. 61 points...it should be 61, 60 can be a push...not sure why they were playing that way.
I really like Joe Tucker's take on it and love to play 15 ball as a drill for other games, but you really should give Straight Rotation a shot...it really is a great game and I think at the pro level it would draw players/fans from all disciplines, as it's got a little bit of everything and B/Rs are very rare. The only real difference I noticed is the 60 vs. 61 points...it should be 61, 60 can be a push...not sure why they were playing that way.
I wish folks would quit calling it "Filipino" rotation...the U.S. Navy brought that game to the Phillipines after WWII; it started here in the good ole USA and was pretty popular. The only reason I know anything about it is it was the first game I learned how to play from my Grandpa. Since he passed, I haven't found anyone that knows how to play it.
So long as you play to half (or less) of the available points, you can never have a push because only one player scores points at a time. Once I hit 60, the game is done.
If we're playing to 61, however, it's possible for me to score 60 points, then you score 60 points and that's all the points there are!
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I think the reason people are calling it Filipino Rotation is because the rules vary (spotting balls etc) from the American game in the BCA rulebook. As far as the 60 vs 61 points thing goes it doesn't really matter that much. The BCA rules for Rotation provide for a way to break ties.
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I wish folks would quit calling it "Filipino" rotation...the U.S. Navy brought that game to the Phillipines after WWII; it started here in the good ole USA and was pretty popular. The only reason I know anything about it is it was the first game I learned how to play from my Grandpa. Since he passed, I haven't found anyone that knows how to play it.
Yeah, I don't get the 60 vs 61 either. I'm sure he has a reason for it. Johnnyt
I could be wrong but I believe that 1 point is added for the last ball pocketed breaking the 60-60 tie.
American rotation, please post rules on your website.
Not sure I understand...you can get to 60, then miss the next ball, leaving 60 points available on the table. If I get to 61 or more, there's no more points available to beat me. If you run balls in numerical order without hitting a shortcut, you'll get to 66 points when you sink the 11 ball...game over. You could get to 60 points before then, if you sink a higher ball in a shortcut on your way, such as sinking the 15 ball early in combo and getting the 1-9 in sequence. Then you dog the 10 ball, leaving the 10-14 on the table at 60 points. Your opponent runs those out, equalling your 60 points, leaving a tie/push.
Right... if the game is to 61 points and both players get 60 you have a push; there are no more balls on the table.
If the game is to 60 points and both players get to 59, the 2-ball is still sitting on the table so someone will definitely win.
I wish folks would quit calling it "Filipino" rotation...the U.S. Navy brought that game to the Phillipines after WWII; it started here in the good ole USA and was pretty popular. The only reason I know anything about it is it was the first game I learned how to play from my Grandpa. Since he passed, I haven't found anyone that knows how to play it.
Can't agree more. My grandpa played this game from sea town to sea town during WWII. It was the second game I ever learned on a pool table. The bca rule book has a tie breaker at 60-60. I'm not 100 percent on this but I think it's the last ball. I love that the Filipinos keep this game alive. On a side note Tevis' hustler novel mentions the game