Who will finish #1 in the WPBA?

landshark77

landshark77

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Ok, so I was playing around with the WPBA's points list. Providing that I dropped the correct points, it appears as though if Allison Fisher finishes in the same place or places better than Karen Corr in Florida next week then she will regain the #1 spot, thus finishing the season at #1. Seems as though this will be the pressure tourney for Karen. :eek:

What do you folks think will happen?

And Mike, maybe the v-bookie can be active for this? My v-cash is really burning a v-hole in my v-pockets. :p (We don't need the brackets updated to v-gamble on this. :D ) However, I am not sure if there is any other interest though........folks?
 
landshark77 said:
Ok, so I was playing around with the WPBA's points list. Providing that I dropped the correct points, it appears as though if Allison Fisher finishes in the same place or places better than Karen Corr in Florida next week then she will regain the #1 spot, thus finishing the season at #1. Seems as though this will be the pressure tourney for Karen.What do you folks think will happen?
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Landshark, your assessment is accurate, and the possibility of them finishing the same can be, for the most part, dismissed, as it could only happen if Allison and Karen both missed the TV round in Florida. While there is no denying that this rivalry is simply too close to call, I'm going to have to bet on Allison here. Fisher topped Corr convincingly at Mohegan Sun just over three weeks ago, and, although Corr rebounded by winning at the Nationals, she didn't beat Allison along the way. Advantage Fisher.
 
sjm said:
Landshark, your assessment is accurate, and the possibility of them finishing the same can be, for the most part, dismissed, as it could only happen if Allison and Karen both missed the TV round in Florida. While there is no denying that this rivalry is simply too close to call, I'm going to have to bet on Allison here. Fisher topped Corr convincingly at Mohegan Sun just over three weeks ago, and, although Corr rebounded by winning at the Nationals, she didn't beat Allison along the way. Advantage Fisher.
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SJM, I would agree that the possibility of them finishing the same can be dismissed; however it does still exist, especially given the single elimination format with the last 16. All it would take would be for them to get beaten in the same bracket, provided that they are both still in it, LOL! Both players have a 9th place finish under their belt for the '03 season. Even with the added TV exposure in this tourney, 9th place still won't make TV rounds. Plus as I discussed with Melissa Herndon in her forum, there will be no separation of 3rd and 4th place in this tourney, thus 3rd and 4th will be awarded the same points.

I respect your Allison Fisher advantage theory, but I think I am leaning towards Karen...depending on the draws though. I think if Allison meets up with Kelly Fisher again she could be doomed. Kelly has defeated Allison a few times recently, but Ms. Corr has yet to be sent to the one loss side by Kelly.
 
Gremlin said:
landshark77,

Karen will win! She will have the advantage as will Allison of playing 7 rack 9-Ball on tables under hot lights. I hope they play on the regular tournament tables as the ball won't slide as much as the new table they use in the regular TV matches. The ad will also got to any of the players who have played single elimination. Kim Shaw, Julie Kelly, Kelly Fisher, Valerie Finnie, Sarah Ellerby, Gay Young Kim, and Gerda Hofstatter.

I don't think 9-Ball is a game that tests any great pros skills. A race to 7 is worthless! A race to 9 11 or 13 like the men is a better test.

Well, the moon and stars are in the proper alignment for the "Irish to win. :eek:

Cheers,

"Gremlin"
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Well Gremlin, I would admit that the "hot light" experience could be to the advantage of the players who are used to the TV rounds, but that is only one factor in the equation.

As far as the single elimination format being to the advantage of some of the players, IMO, I doubt that. For starters, most of these players have grown accustomed to the double elimination format since playing on the WPBA tour, unless they kept their skills in single elem tourneys while not playing in WPBA sanctioned events. However, most of the American pool tourneys are double elimination. Plus, I would assume that all pool players have experience in both formats. I know I do, and I’m just your standard league player. :eek:
 
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landshark77 said:
Plus, I would assume that all pool players have experience in both formats. I know I do, and I’m just your standard league player. :eek:
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Hey, what league do you play in?

Brian
 
APA7 said:
Lucky guess :p What do you play as? (just curious)
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I'm rated a 3. I would even say a strong 3, I can hold my own pretty well in 8-ball. Of course, I'm no 7, LOL! :p
 
landshark77 said:
I'm rated a 3. I would even say a strong 3, I can hold my own pretty well in 8-ball. Of course, I'm no 7, LOL! :p
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Sounds like your off to a good start. Hey, if you put the time in and learn from people on these forums, who knows where you'll land? I guess it's all about dedicatiion.
 
Gremlin said:
Landshark77,

I find your discourse informative and interesting. I would also point out that only about five or maybe six other players play the speed of the snooker players.

Your so fond of dewelling on the standings which I admire, let me note, as of right now the closest American that plays Allison and Karen's speed is 650
points behind them. :eek: With alternate break there will be no combacks unless bad racks or missed ball are the order of the day. The player who adjust to the conditions the best will win. My pick is the Irish. Karen Corr or Julie Kelly. It will fun to watch unfold.

Cheers,

"Gremlin" :)
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Yeah, Allison and Karen have a STRONG lead over the other WPBA players; they can both not earn any points in this tourney and still be the top two players "in the world." And yeah, the alternate break is yet another large factor...it is the luck, or is it skill, of the lag. The person breaking on a hill hill match ALWAYS has the advantage. It is really not a true test of skill, IMO, especially when you get two players who can run rack after rack.

I'm also not totally understanding the speed aspect you refer to the snooker players as having. It could be my total lack of understanding of snooker, or my uncertainty of what you mean by speed. I recently was able to watch Kelly Fisher play briefly and she appeared to be equal, speed wise, to all the other players, myself included. What I did notice about Ms. Fisher's game, compared to others, was the fact that she rarely missed. But then again, skill at the game of snooker must be beneficial, as the players who have dominated the WPBA in recent years have come from a snooker background, or could that be coincidence?
 
Hi Folks,

Earlier this year, I had great hopes that Jeanette Lee would make a charge to the top. Her play at the DCC was outstanding. Although she won only one WPBA event and did well at a couple of others, her charge failed to appear.

I saw her last week at the BCA event in Vegas. She evidently was there to suggest set up options for her "pool school" at the Plaza. Why didn't she play? Why go all the way there solely to walk around with Casino officials? Judging from the field in both the one pocket and bank pool, she might have done very well. "She could have been a contender"! :confused:
 
I saw a post by JoeT, a male pro, which reported that he had played in a tournament where Karen had scored an Accu-Stats score of 988! Food for thought.
 
landshark77 said:
SJM, I would agree that the possibility of them finishing the same can be dismissed; however it does still exist, especially given the single elimination format with the last 16. I respect your Allison Fisher advantage theory, but I think I am leaning towards Karen...depending on the draws though. I think if Allison meets up with Kelly Fisher again she could be doomed. Kelly has defeated Allison a few times recently, but Ms. Corr has yet to be sent to the one loss side by Kelly.
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Landshark, thanks for correcting me, for I overlooked the format change, so the chance of Fisher and Corr earning the same number of points is far greater than I first suggested.

Also, I am only aware of one time that Kelly Fisher beat Allison, and that would be at the US Open. If you know of another, please indicate.
 
This one is close, but I have a hunch Karen will finish #1 this is just my opinion though and it really is a coint toss. I think some V-Bookie would be great for this and for the Reno Open as well, don't you Mike? ;)
 
sjm said:
Also, I am only aware of one time that Kelly Fisher beat Allison, and that would be at the US Open. If you know of another, please indicate.
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My bad SJM, it was only once. I guess I was subconsciously over rating her first match against Allison in Canada, that and the fact that Allison didn't make it to the finals at the Open. Thanx for your correction. ;)
 
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