Who ya got: JB Cases or Lou?

Who ya got? JB cases or Lou?

  • JB all day every day

    Votes: 61 43.3%
  • Lou is my man

    Votes: 25 17.7%
  • Pulling for JB Cases but betting on Lou.

    Votes: 16 11.3%
  • Just ready for it to be over. Wish both could lose.

    Votes: 39 27.7%

  • Total voters
    141
Wrong. Its not the same hammer. You are speaking of the TASK. Driving the nail is the goal.

If I have a better way and my own audience who wants to try my way then nitwits should stat out of it.

You want to drive nails your way and use the tools you have then fine go to your own space and do that. But don't be pissed when people say oh we know that way and we would like to try this other way.

Don't interject yourself into the conversation to disrupt it.


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What?

If we were to use your example, the cue is the hammer. Cueing the ball is driving the nail. CTE is you knowing where to hit the nail to make it go in. I have a secret for you, John: people using hammers don't pay other people money to teach them where to look at a nail, they just hit the bloody thing because they know where its going. Just like the overwhelming majority of world class cueists.

If you want to use a system to do that then more power to you. I think it just gets a bit grating on people when you insist that it 'works' and those who don't believe simply haven't put the time in, blah, blah, blah. On the whole I think people don't care if it 'works' or not; they just see it as redundant.

Anyway, I'm out. There's too much crazy in this thread for me.

Said it right here more than two years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoQcHkU1Dzo

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What?

If we were to use your example, the cue is the hammer. Cueing the ball is driving the nail. CTE is you knowing where to hit the nail to make it go in. I have a secret for you, John: people using hammers don't pay other people money to teach them where to look at a nail, they just hit the bloody thing because they know where its going. Just like the overwhelming majority of world class cueists.

If you want to use a system to do that then more power to you. I think it just gets a bit grating on people when you insist that it 'works' and those who don't believe simply haven't put the time in, blah, blah, blah. On the whole I think people don't care if it 'works' or not; they just see it as redundant.

Anyway, I'm out. There's too much crazy in this thread for me.



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Why are you so easy to defeat?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/4217164

People pay to learn how to hammer, it's called carpentry.

Do you know all the different kinds of hammers there are? Do you know all the techniques to use those hammers? Obviously you don't.

Yes of course they just hit the bloody thing which is why you have a robust segment of the snooker industry in coaching people to properly hit the bloody thing. On Youtube all the instructors, coaches and professionals who are teaching all say the same thing, just hit the bloody thing.

That's about right isn't it?

Well not quite...... There is plenty of instruction on just HOW to hit the bloody thing, from aim to stance to elbow drop etc....and not all Snooker instruction is the same on the subject of aiming.

Gosh this thing called the internet is a wonderful thing.

Betcha didn't know ANY of these things about hammering.

1. Roughen the hammer’s striking face with sandpaper—it’ll help prevent glancing blows that bend nails and often find your thumb.
2. Chisel-shaped nail points tend to split the wood. To avoid the problem, blunt the sharp tip with your hammer. This way, the nail crushes the wood fibers and pushes them ahead rather than splitting them apart.

3. You can set a common nail’s head below the surface without smashing the surrounding wood with your hammer—just use another nail. Don’t use it like a nailset, though. Instead, hold it by the tip, place its head on the driven nail, and strike the edge of the head.

4. Several nails driven straight and parallel have reasonable holding power, but if you want maximum grip, drive them at different angles. This is also a great way to use nails that are just a bit too long for the job.

5. Nailing a wooden strip or molding that holds a pane of glass in a frame is enough to make anyone nervous. Here’s how to do it: Instead of trying to keep it away from the glass, let your hammer rest on the pane and slide it back and forth to drive the nail.

Bonus Tip
Effective nailing is a mechanical action involving linkages that extend through your wrist, arm and body. For best results, follow this simple rule: No matter where you’re hammering, always keep the end of the handle pointing toward your hips. Aim it anywhere else and your asking for bent, missed and poorly driven nails. —Tom Klenck

More for you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8

My tip: Wait for people to make silly statements on AZB who don't know how to use Google to check their points before making them....then drop the Google-fu on them with a flurry of links that obliterates their silly assumptions. Hammer them with the facts.

Do I need to provide you with all the links to snooker instruction again?
 
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People pay to learn how to hammer, it's called carpentry.

Perfect analogy, actually. Learning to aim a hammer is to carpentry what aiming systems are to pool. Unnecessary and superfluous. It's something you can do simply through use.

The technique of using a hammer is your cueing - something you clearly haven't put much time into. Ask any top class carpenter how he aims his hammer? He'll laugh at you. Much like most top class cueists laugh at aiming systems.

Now this time I really am out. Enjoy arguing with yourself.

And good luck with your match if our paths don't cross before then.
 
Perfect analogy, actually. Learning to aim a hammer is to carpentry what aiming systems are to pool. Unnecessary and superfluous. It's something you can do simply through use.

The technique of using a hammer is your cueing - something you clearly haven't put much time into. Ask any top class carpenter how he aims his hammer? He'll laugh at you. Much like most top class cueists laugh at aiming systems.

Now this time I really am out. Enjoy arguing with yourself.

And good luck with your match if our paths don't cross before then.

http://www.howjunction.com/how-to-use-a-hammer-like-a-professional.html

Because carpenters and top players all had to learn to AIM at some point. As a CHAMPION said to me at DCC, we were all beginners once.

Let me ask you something. How many world class players have you actually ever talked to about aiming?

Any?

One? Two?

Five?

How many do you actually know?

I have talked to many of them about aiming. I know many of them personally. Most of them do not have the attitude you ascribe to them at all. Most of them are open to anything that helps a person play better pool. All of them have their ways to aim and almost none of them are simply "just hit the bloody thing".

So before you go off telling us what top players think why don't you prove you have ever even conversed with them? And if you did then I would bet a lot that you didn't talk to them about aiming.
 
Why are you so easy to defeat?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/4217164

People pay to learn how to hammer, it's called carpentry.

Do you know all the different kinds of hammers there are? Do you know all the techniques to use those hammers? Obviously you don't.

Yes of course they just hit the bloody thing which is why you have a robust segment of the snooker industry in coaching people to properly hit the bloody thing. On Youtube all the instructors, coaches and professionals who are teaching all say the same thing, just hit the bloody thing.

That's about right isn't it?

Well not quite...... There is plenty of instruction on just HOW to hit the bloody thing, from aim to stance to elbow drop etc....and not all Snooker instruction is the same on the subject of aiming.

Gosh this thing called the internet is a wonderful thing.

Betcha didn't know ANY of these things about hammering.

1. Roughen the hammer’s striking face with sandpaper—it’ll help prevent glancing blows that bend nails and often find your thumb.
2. Chisel-shaped nail points tend to split the wood. To avoid the problem, blunt the sharp tip with your hammer. This way, the nail crushes the wood fibers and pushes them ahead rather than splitting them apart.

3. You can set a common nail’s head below the surface without smashing the surrounding wood with your hammer—just use another nail. Don’t use it like a nailset, though. Instead, hold it by the tip, place its head on the driven nail, and strike the edge of the head.

4. Several nails driven straight and parallel have reasonable holding power, but if you want maximum grip, drive them at different angles. This is also a great way to use nails that are just a bit too long for the job.

5. Nailing a wooden strip or molding that holds a pane of glass in a frame is enough to make anyone nervous. Here’s how to do it: Instead of trying to keep it away from the glass, let your hammer rest on the pane and slide it back and forth to drive the nail.

Bonus Tip
Effective nailing is a mechanical action involving linkages that extend through your wrist, arm and body. For best results, follow this simple rule: No matter where you’re hammering, always keep the end of the handle pointing toward your hips. Aim it anywhere else and your asking for bent, missed and poorly driven nails. —Tom Klenck

More for you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8

My tip: Wait for people to make silly statements on AZB who don't know how to use Google to check their points before making them....then drop the Google-fu on them with a flurry of links that obliterates their silly assumptions. Hammer them with the facts.

Do I need to provide you with all the links to snooker instruction again?

Always towards the hip LMFAO now that's a good one I can mail many nails and the hammer will never point at the hip ,, that's a rediculas statement

As to aiming by the pros look no farther than CJs thread right here ,,

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Customer:
Morning,

Waitress:
Morning.

Customer:
What have you got?

Waitress:
Well, there's egg and bacon,
egg sausage and bacon
Egg and Barton
Egg, bacon and Barton
Egg, bacon, sausage and Barton
Barton, bacon, sausage and Barton
Barton, egg, Barton, Barton, bacon and Barton
Barton, sausage, Barton, Barton, Barton, bacon, Barton tomato and Barton
Barton, Barton, Barton, egg and Barton
Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, baked beans, Barton, Barton, Barton, and Barton


(Choir: Barton! Barton! Barton! Barton! Lovely Barton! Lovely Barton!)

Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce
served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Barton.

Wife:
Have you got anything without Barton?

Waitress:
Well, the Barton, eggs, sausage and Barton
That's not got much Barton in it

Wife:
I don't want any Barton!

(repeat to fade)
 
So don't ever sweat these assholes as if what they say really means anything. To me they are farting into the wind and we only indulge them at our whim reacting to their contorted faces as they are covered in the stench of their own shit.

Amongst much else, LOL.
 
Let's just consider how a pro became a pro,,,,,,,they weren't born one. At one time, they were a beginner just like everyone else. They were not born all knowing about shooting pool.

They practiced, they studied, trail and error, what works doesn't works, ....all these phases until things just started to make sense to them. They found what works for them and stuck with to maximize consistency.

Then they took this knowledge and tried pro level tourneys. They had their knowledge before going pro and not after going pro.

It is silly to believe that only pro level players are the only ones with the knowledge and skill to play great pool. Just because someone is a pro doesn't mean they know what they are talking about....TOI is one example.

If only a top pro can understand CTE or invited to study it, doesn't say much for the ease of use, ie over complicated. Are only top pros capable of having the knowledge of what works or doesn't?

To me that offered was a sign of weakness. A sign of desperation. If it works, if you firmly believe in it, you wouldn't need approval from others. You would have the confidence just to keep going regardless to what others think. I mean wasn't the curtain shots enough? Guess not, if you need a pro to bless CTE.

Bully's love name calling........sign that they can't fight the facts, the truth, the real world so the resort to childish name calling, but because of the protected status, nothing will happen even though a lot of people got called assholes.

Oh wait, that's right, John didn't have the balls to name the assholes..... But I will name the biggest asshole of all in this thread.....JBCases.
 
Customer:
Morning,

Waitress:
Morning.

Customer:
What have you got?

Waitress:
Well, there's egg and bacon,
egg sausage and bacon
Egg and Barton
Egg, bacon and Barton
Egg, bacon, sausage and Barton
Barton, bacon, sausage and Barton
Barton, egg, Barton, Barton, bacon and Barton
Barton, sausage, Barton, Barton, Barton, bacon, Barton tomato and Barton
Barton, Barton, Barton, egg and Barton
Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, baked beans, Barton, Barton, Barton, and Barton


(Choir: Barton! Barton! Barton! Barton! Lovely Barton! Lovely Barton!)

Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce
served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Barton.

Wife:
Have you got anything without Barton?

Waitress:
Well, the Barton, eggs, sausage and Barton
That's not got much Barton in it

Wife:
I don't want any Barton!

(repeat to fade)


The food in England sounds terrible
 
If only a top pro can understand CTE or invited to study it, doesn't say much for the ease of use, ie over complicated. Are only top pros capable of having the knowledge of what works or doesn't?

Hear that whistle high above your head? Yeah, that was the point flying by you.

Stan has offered his time, for free, to five individuals to come learn CTE, and give their opinions/experiences with it.

Now, what kind of individuals would matter to the general public? The only ones would be top pros. That is, people with known credibility behind their understanding and knowledge of pool. Anyone else saying something about CTE would be a wasted breath, as it would not matter to anyone.

So in case you missed something again... this isn't about who can or can't understand CTE, it is about using a voice that matters. Why would Stan give his time away for anything else?

[edit] To clarify, this was his 1-5 day offer with rooms. As Stan stated below, anyone can come to his place to see CTE for themselves.
 
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Let's just consider how a pro became a pro,,,,,,,they weren't born one. At one time, they were a beginner just like everyone else. They were not born all knowing about shooting pool.

They practiced, they studied, trail and error, what works doesn't works, ....all these phases until things just started to make sense to them. They found what works for them and stuck with to maximize consistency.

Then they took this knowledge and tried pro level tourneys. They had their knowledge before going pro and not after going pro.

It is silly to believe that only pro level players are the only ones with the knowledge and skill to play great pool. Just because someone is a pro doesn't mean they know what they are talking about....TOI is one example.

If only a top pro can understand CTE or invited to study it, doesn't say much for the ease of use, ie over complicated. Are only top pros capable of having the knowledge of what works or doesn't?

To me that offered was a sign of weakness. A sign of desperation. If it works, if you firmly believe in it, you wouldn't need approval from others. You would have the confidence just to keep going regardless to what others think. I mean wasn't the curtain shots enough? Guess not, if you need a pro to bless CTE.

Bully's love name calling........sign that they can't fight the facts, the truth, the real world so the resort to childish name calling, but because of the protected status, nothing will happen even though a lot of people got called assholes.

Oh wait, that's right, John didn't have the balls to name the assholes..... But I will name the biggest asshole of all in this thread.....JBCases.

Look pal, I am not an APA 2 who can barely draw his ball telling people what works and what doesn't work. What you absolutely fail to grasp is that EVERYONE here can play way way better than you. And I mean everyone.

If you feel like the word asshole applies to you then maybe that's your guilt showing up. I certainly don't think it applies to me. Because I am not trying to stop you from using Ghost Ball or the Arrow. I can tell you my experience with GB because I have a lot of experience with it.

You see when you came around touting the Arrow Template and Cranfield's book called beginning billiards or something like that I went ahead and made the template and read the chapters and used it as prescribed. Why?

Because unlike you I will try whatever is suggested so that I understand it and can speak of it from a point of KNOWLEDGE and EXPERIENCE.

What have you done in your entire time here? You have knocked CTE without ever even trying to learn it. You act as though you know everything there is to know about playing high level pool and yet you can't even show us that you can run a single rack.

I didn't call you an asshole Duckie but if you feel like one then maybe you should consider why you do.
 
Customer:
Morning,

Waitress:
Morning.

Customer:
What have you got?

Waitress:
Well, there's egg and bacon,
egg sausage and bacon
Egg and Barton
Egg, bacon and Barton
Egg, bacon, sausage and Barton
Barton, bacon, sausage and Barton
Barton, egg, Barton, Barton, bacon and Barton
Barton, sausage, Barton, Barton, Barton, bacon, Barton tomato and Barton
Barton, Barton, Barton, egg and Barton
Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, Barton, baked beans, Barton, Barton, Barton, and Barton


(Choir: Barton! Barton! Barton! Barton! Lovely Barton! Lovely Barton!)

Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce
served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Barton.

Wife:
Have you got anything without Barton?

Waitress:
Well, the Barton, eggs, sausage and Barton
That's not got much Barton in it

Wife:
I don't want any Barton!

(repeat to fade)

Waitress:
and what can I get you to drink?

Wife:
I'll take a Tom Collins.
 
Let's just consider how a pro became a pro,,,,,,,they weren't born one. At one time, they were a beginner just like everyone else. They were not born all knowing about shooting pool.

They practiced, they studied, trail and error, what works doesn't works, ....all these phases until things just started to make sense to them. They found what works for them and stuck with to maximize consistency.

Then they took this knowledge and tried pro level tourneys. They had their knowledge before going pro and not after going pro.

It is silly to believe that only pro level players are the only ones with the knowledge and skill to play great pool. Just because someone is a pro doesn't mean they know what they are talking about....TOI is one example.

If only a top pro can understand CTE or invited to study it, doesn't say much for the ease of use, ie over complicated. Are only top pros capable of having the knowledge of what works or doesn't?

To me that offered was a sign of weakness. A sign of desperation. If it works, if you firmly believe in it, you wouldn't need approval from others. You would have the confidence just to keep going regardless to what others think. I mean wasn't the curtain shots enough? Guess not, if you need a pro to bless CTE.

Bully's love name calling........sign that they can't fight the facts, the truth, the real world so the resort to childish name calling, but because of the protected status, nothing will happen even though a lot of people got called assholes.

Oh wait, that's right, John didn't have the balls to name the assholes..... But I will name the biggest asshole of all in this thread.....JBCases.


My posting clearly shows that I have made offers to ANYONE that is simply curious, sincerely interested or dubious in any way to come to my facility to see CTE first-hand.
I have invited anyone to include you, pool publications and YES pros to come and check over my work first-hand. My posting will bear that out.
You needn't worry about CTE as it is here to stay. And over time there will be more and more confirmations about the effectiveness and accuracy of CTE PRO ONE and less and less duck-type dribble.

Stan Shuffett
 
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...and my favorite:

If you didn't put it in the hole you ain't doing it right.



The most amazing thing to me is that it doesn't just work for side pocket shots! It works for corner pocket shots too!

Hilarious. Never seen that before.
 
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