The OP wants clean tables he can run. Don't we all. My suggestion is quit, and then go on complaining about the league for the next 40 years.
i was in the APA and hated it ... i didnt like waiting around to play, didnt like taking score, dont like playing on 7ft table (just not enjoyable). i would rather walkin matchup and then gtfo ... let who won the money make the score ... lose /get better and do it again ... win / great see how much you can make. you get more out of it this way.
I've played in a few different leagues, including APA. Most people don't run out in all of them. Without these leagues, there will be no pool in America.
I played in multiple leagues over the yrs. All were petty and nitty to some degree but the crown jewel of nittiness is easily APA. People that couldn't run four balls if their life was riding on it would get into fights over some of the most chickenshit rules squabbles like "where does the 8b go if a mousefart makes it fall it in".
League/barbox pool has 'dumbed down' pool in this country beyond belief. No other country plays on them thus the US's inability to compete on the world stage on 9ft tables. I know, most league bangers barely know 9fts exist but little tables are the reason. Think the US's horrible track record in the MC the last 20yrs is just bad luck?
I'm not saying it's why we aren't better on the world stage, that seems obvious. I'm saying that league pool IS American pool. Without it, most pool rooms would close down and the whole game would likely shrivel up and die. It hasn't "ruined American pool", it IS American pool.
We must have different definitions of a nit. I've run APA leagues for a long time, and by far (and I mean FAR) the nittiest ones are the ones that also play other leagues. The rest just want to have a good time, and nitpicking rules (that's where "nit" comes from, right?) just isn't a good time for them. There are plenty of players in the other leagues who aren't nits, but most of the nits come from that crossover crowd, at least in my experience. Maybe it's just sheer size that makes it appear more prevalent - if it's 1% across the board you'll see it 10X as often in a league that's 10X larger.I played in multiple leagues over the yrs. All were petty and nitty to some degree but the crown jewel of nittiness is easily APA. People that couldn't run four balls if their life was riding on it would get into fights over some of the most chickenshit rules squabbles like "where does the 8b go if a mousefart makes it fall it in".
That’s not it. I can run an ugly table too. When you play your girlfriend/wife with a weak break long enough you get pretty good at working in tight areas. I’m just trying to get opinions here.
In my experience, the way that I break, hitting the side break too hard causes me more problems. I medium speed break gets me better results at getting the 8 moving. For me. Your mileage may vary, heh heh.
Coming late to the thread and figured I wouldn't be the first to rely on the second ball break in 8 ball on a bar table. A break favored by the Grand Masters of the game. With the game of 8 ball being , "The Old Man's game" go figure.
I like to kill em. But there is a problem with breaking hard too. If you break hard with top the cb can fly off the table especially if the head ball is off. It’s also a way to intentionally fly it off towards the guy/girl racking if he/she keeps leaving it off……..that’s always fun.
Reminds me of the times my opponent thought they were bad racking me but actually gave the 8 ball a better chance to go straight to the side. Just a little gap between the first and next ball on either side. I always inspected and accepted every rack. Well back when the 8 ball break had a kitty.
I still won the match and went on to win my first "Big Boys" tournament.
or when they don't get the rack squared up, tilted a little in one direction...my eyes get real big when I get a good look at the whole second ballReminds me of the times my opponent thought they were bad racking me but actually gave the 8 ball a better chance to go straight to the side. Just a little gap between the first and next ball on either side. I always inspected and accepted every rack. Well back when the 8 ball break had a kitty.
I loved the times that they offered to fix, after I had made a brief inspection. Without prompting they would ask if I wanted them to "fix it?". They could probably see the twinkle in my eye as I was preparing to break a rack that I knew.or when they don't get the rack squared up, tilted a little in one direction...my eyes get real big when I get a good look at the whole second ball
I never put the cue ball down where I intend to break from until they're done racking, leaving it near the back rail.