Why CTE is silly

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peteypooldude said:
I do possess the secret sauce . Does it make it wrong that I wont give a full description? Does that give you the right to dismiss it . And be very
rude about it
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Apparently, since you have the secret sauce, and it's NOT what I'm dismissing...then you have no cause to gripe at all: What I've dismissed is apparently something OTHER than what you have. The discussion, then, isn't about you or "your" CTE.

You're under no obligation to disclose anything you don't want to disclose. But....that makes your place in the discussion rather pointless, doesn't it?

Right now, you're just standing on the sidelines claiming we're all wasting our time discussing something that's not CTE, because you wish to claim that CTE is SOMETHING ELSE, but unwilling to say what that something else IS.

It's only appropriate that you stop posting, then. You won't discuss what YOU'RE talking about, and we're talking about something different. What useful input can you have then?

btw, just curious: Have you been appointed the intellectual heir to Hal Houle? Has Hal told you that YOU are the one with the "official" CTE?
 
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GetMeThere said:
Apparently, since you have the secret sauce, and it's NOT what I'm dismissing...then you have no cause to gripe at all: What I've dismissed is apparently something OTHER than what you have. The discussion, then, isn't about you or "your" CTE.

You're under no obligation to disclose anything you don't want to disclose. But....that makes your place in the discussion rather pointless, doesn't it?

Right now, you're just standing on the sidelines claiming we're all wasting our time discussing something that's not CTE, because you wish to claim that CTE is SOMETHING ELSE, but unwilling to say what that something else IS.

It's only appropriate that you stop posting, then. You won't discuss what YOU'RE talking about, and we're talking about something different. What useful input can you have then?

btw, just curious: Have you been appointed the intellectual heir to Hal Houle? Has Hal told you that YOU are the one with the "official" CTE?
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As you may know CTE starts in a basic form . It will pocket balls, but that is a starting point . Hal gave different people slightly different descriptions. Then you have 90/90 that is a form or relative of CTE,and you have Stans pro one. The more advanced you become with it the more exact it gets. You said CTE was silly and users were delusional. I am a user
so your comments were took as they were said.
And you named the thread yourself .And FYI
I learned from one of the TOP advocates of the system. Just so you know
 
peteypooldude said:
As you may know CTE starts in a basic form . It will pocket balls, but that is a starting point . Hal gave different people slightly different descriptions. Then you have 90/90 that is a form or relative of CTE,and you have Stans pro one. The more advanced you become with it the more exact it gets. You said CTE was silly and users were delusional. I am a user
so your comments were took as they were said.
And you named the thread yourself .And FYI
I learned from one of the TOP advocates of the system. Just so you know
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Impressive!
 
Ok summary of what I am getting from this thread so far.


-There is a "basic" process for making balls into any corner pocket.

-The system is an "exact" center pocket system (that uses subconcious adjustments)..but requires no adjustments

-The system can send the ball to "other" places other than the corner pockets....but it can't be used to make combos.

-It is easy to recognize and set up to the CB with 1 tip of offset to the edge of the OB...then "paralell shift" to "some point" along the CB to either some place on the OB or some part of the pocket and then pivot the cue in some fashion at a certain bridge length back to a center CB........However it is NOT easy to set up through center CB along a straight line through a single selected verticle axis point.

-Descriptions of ceratain aspects of CTE are not able to be communicated through text or graphs...only "in person" at the table.

-Descriptions of certain aspects of CTE are not available to the public through this discussion board......but the "secrets" are available "somewhere"

-CTE eliminates the need to compensate for CIT.

-Only half of the information on CTE is correct.....the half that IS correct has not been identified.

-CTE does NOT have any religious connections...the jury is still out on "magic"

-No joking is allowed in the presence of CTE discussions

-GetMeThere has way to much time on his hands.....and/or types very very fast.

-After following this "silly" thread....Stan has his work cut out for him with this DVD release.
 
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BRKNRUN said:
Ok summary of what I am getting from this thread so far.


-There is a "basic" process for making balls into any corner pocket.

-The system is an "exact" center pocket system (that uses subconcious adjustments)..but requires no adjustments

-The system can send the ball to "other" places other than the corner pockets....but it can't be used to make combos.

-It is easy to recognize and set up to the CB with 1 tip of offset to the edge of the OB...then "paralell shift" to "some point" along the CB to either some place on the OB or some part of the pocket and then pivot the cue in some fashion at a certain bridge length back to a center CB........However it is NOT easy to set up through center CB along a straight line through a single selected verticle axis point.

-Descriptions of ceratain aspects of CTE are not able to be communicated through text or graphs...only "in person" at the table.

-Descriptions of certain aspects of CTE are not available to the public through this discussion board......but the "secrets" are available "somewhere"

-CTE eliminates the need to compensate for CIT.

-Only half of the information on CTE is correct.....the half that IS correct has not been identified.

-CTE does NOT have any religious connections...the jury is still out on "magic"

-No joking is allowed in the presence of CTE discussions

-GetMeThere has way to much time on his hands.....and/or types very very fast.

-After following this "silly" thread....Stan has his work cut out for him with this DVD release.
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Geez! All that made me forget my mantra!
 
GMT. PJ and BRKNRUN please keep the faith. CTH is a form of Scientology (half science fiction - half religion). Your just not spiritually worthy enough for them to explain it to you. Maybe Tom Cruise will do another COM without Paul and he can go from advanced cue spinning to CTH in HD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

PJ I still plan on being in Chicago in a couple of weeks. Sorry I don't know (or believe in CTH) either.

Nick
 
Nick B said:
GMT. PJ and BRKNRUN please keep the faith. CTH is a form of Scientology (half science fiction - half religion). Your just not spiritually worthy enough for them to explain it to you. Maybe Tom Cruise will do another COM without Paul and he can go from advanced cue spinning to CTH in HD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

PJ I still plan on being in Chicago in a couple of weeks. Sorry I don't know (or believe in CTH) either.

Nick
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I KNOW I could design a great e-meter for CTEers to test/improve their pivoting.
 
Being a Electrical Eng I'm not sure that you could apply a Wheatstone Bridge to measure a cue pivot...but it sound interesting.

Nick
 
GetMeThere said:
I disagree with that. An assertion about a teapot orbiting Mars is a SIMPLE assertion--with NO basis whatsoever (I would assume).

Assertions about what CTE can do HAVE a basis: the RULES of the CTE process. That being the case, it is possible in principle to PROVE that it should work (or not work) without even trying it--by analysis of its rules.

A better analogy is someone reporting there is teapot orbiting Mars because they looked up one night and caught a glimpse of it. At that point it can be PROVED that the human eye is utterly incapable of that resolution--and thus the claim can be convincingly "disproved."

If CTE is defined as a methodical physical (not subconscious) process that aligns a cue along a line which, when stroked, will pocket a ball, and that process calls for the IDENTICAL alignment for the three (differently angled) shots under discussion...then that is sufficient direct evidence that "CTE does not work."
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But you are missing some part of the puzzle so you don't know the rules.

No one said that the "alignment" is identical for all three shots. We say that the initial approach is identical. As it also is for Ghost Ball.

No one is cheating physics here. Three shots require three DIFFERENT real angles. So how is it possible that one can use an initial starting point that is the same for all three shots and still end up on the right line?

That's the mystery piece of the puzzle you think you can browbeat out of those who know it.

Obviously that approach is failing.
 
I just read a few of the posts to get caught up. Regarding Superstar's combo wei table, why did some CTE users say CTE can't make the shot, yet some CTE users said it can?
 
JB Cases said:
That's the mystery piece of the puzzle you think you can browbeat out of those who know it.

Obviously that approach is failing.
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Can you really say that with a straight face after FIFTEEN YEARS???

If only I hadn't come along and gotten so pushy and started browbeating people, the solution of CTE would have been revealed LONG AGO! LOL :D
 
Nick B said:
Being a Electrical Eng I'm not sure that you could apply a Wheatstone Bridge to measure a cue pivot...but it sound interesting.

Nick
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No no. The e-meter would be applied directly to the CTE player, to use their galvanic skin response as a signal of when they've hit the right pivot!

It's all so SIMPLE! You just don't see it because you don't BELIEVE!
 
Amazing! I now want to jump on Oprah's couch.
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GetMeThere said:
No no. The e-meter would be applied directly to the CTE player, to use their galvanic skin response as a signal of when they've hit the right pivot!

It's all so SIMPLE! You just don't see it because you don't BELIEVE!
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GetMeThere said:
No no. The e-meter would be applied directly to the CTE player, to use their galvanic skin response as a signal of when they've hit the right pivot!

It's all so SIMPLE! You just don't see it because you don't BELIEVE!
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i will teach cte, so go easy on what u say about it and its users :) u will be eating a lot of words ;) trust me. i assume u are willing to learn it right?
 
I'm in Toronto on business at least a half a dozen times a year. Teach me.
Convince me and I will pray at the alter of CTH (Centre to Hell).

Nick

champ2107 said:
i will teach cte, so go easy on what u say about it and its users :) u will be eating a lot of words ;) trust me. i assume u are willing to learn it right?
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GetMeThere said:
I see you probably don't realize that Tom Cruise was using CTE during the filming of Color of Money! He's a MAJOR PROPONENT!
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Ahhh! So that's what he was doing when he was "pivoting" the cue in the air and then pretending to stab something on the ground. Now it all makes sense.

Here is how to do CTE, just watch this scene below. CTE even allowed his hair to be perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZirZXR7Fjc
 
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