Why Dieckman Does Not Use IVORY

they use African ivory in cues, There are more elephants alive in Africa now than anytime in history since they started game counts a little over 100 years ago, There are problems with populations in Asia and it is criminal to harvest elephants from those areas, There are a few areas in Africa that have diminished populations and there should be no harvesting of elephants there either.

I have lived in Africa for 6 months in the bush and know alot about game/elephants, I almost went into the safari biz a few years ago, but for political reasons (Robert Mugabe) I didnt-good move.

Very little in known or understood by Americans watching TV. I refuse to even attempt to educate people who have their minds made up because Animal Planet said "they are endangerered".

Not using ivory isnt going to stop a hungry broke poacher from blasting a elephant, its a nice thought to be a good guy and not use ivory, but it ends there, just a noble thought, not reality.

BTW, elephant meat is good, dosent taste like chicken, more like Kobe beef.


Black Rhino's are about gone in the wild, its a shame they were all shot, there are a few left, I was lucky enough to see one and her calf up close one time in 150 days in the bush, it is legal to shoop poachers who are hunting Black rhino's-they shoot them on the spot, no trial, due process nothing, Laws are different in Zimbabwe. Its illegal to poach elephant as well as it should be, but it is possible to harvest some elephants without having any impact on the population. Anyone who impacts a population should be hung by their nuts. Its a matter of game managment. But thats to hard to understand so lets just hate everyone who kills elephants.....the easy way instead of learning..
 
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Not all ivory comes from elephants. Hippos, rhinos and whales have all supplied ivory. Cue inlays could be made from non-elephant ivory, while balls, because of their size, require elephant tusks.

Not all elephant ivory is "banned." Ivory is often recycled from other objects (old pre-ban balls and other items).

I don't see why wildlife cannot be managed (and yes, harvested) to get the best of both worlds.

But, I am not attracted to, or impressed by, or disgusted by, ivory. I believe it is a case of a "connection to tradition" or a "status symbol" rather than the best material for an application.


Hippo's have a mouth full of teeth, 2 of which are ivory, its very brittle and there isnt much there. it might work for small inlays only.

Walrus ivory is small too and not bright white, it is kinda gray. I have seen it used in a few cues in the late 80's. Not very good looking.
 
There is nothing wrong with proper management and harvesting of the elephant population. No different than harvesting corn or soybeans or cattle.

Killing ALL the rosewood trees or the last elephant is something else.
 
There is nothing wrong with proper management and harvesting of the elephant population. No different than harvesting corn or soybeans or cattle.

Killing ALL the rosewood trees or the last elephant is something else.



Well said, I agree 100%. Never cut down the apple tree to get the last apple-its just not worth it.
 
Ever hear of Brazilian Rosewood?

Well yes, but there are other varieties of Rosewood, like East Indian for example. This varietal is less prone to cracking than Brazilian, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of cuemakers used it instead. It also costs a lot less. :D
 
I'm against anything non vegan in principal but don't practice the lifestyle

I would have alot more respect for some of the pro ivory supporters if they just said the stuff looks pretty and they desire it, period
 
There is no amount of money that can fix stupid. If it was easy to be nobel then we wouldn't have a word for people that had it...That is reality!

Royalty is bought for you the day you are born. Nobility is earned through your life, and the actions that define your character.
 
Never happen

He rode in the back of a little arcraft. To the infantry his army title at least while I was in was Allmighty. This is the guy you call if you are the last guy alive in your platoon and you want to go out like a stud...You call down the rain.

We called them Allmighty cause sometimes they are able to get real bombs dropped in front of an infantry units position. When you are vastly out numbered or you find a nice hidden company. You can get them all with one big bullet thanks to guys like Dieckman who are watching the gun fight below...they call in the strike and try not to kill their own...war is not pretty Dieckaman's story isn't one of veganism for the sake of the animal...lol

I have had over a hundred steak dinners with Dennis...he is no veggie. This is no trip on acid. I have had the real face to face with him on this subject..not the public one. Big difference he feels really bad for his part in the elephant trade.

He claims to be the only cuemaker to ever kill an elephant and I know he killed quite a few more than one. I don't think many of you really have ground to insult Dieckman for his life or ridicule him for his thoughts that you probably judged having not even taken the time to read them or called him on the phone to try and understand his thoughts.lol

Just throw stones at any opinion that is not your's that is what I am reading in this thread that is what troubles me. It is almost like you only value your own garbel...
 
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Now you Know the Truth!!!!!!!!

To the age old question "Why Dieckman Don't Use IVORY" It not our to agree or disagree!!! It just That!!
 
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