Why Do Non-Users Care?

Because I want to hear what the academic reviewers had to say about Stan's "work."

I am waiting to be wowed.

Lou Figueroa
wow

Except you're not. So why do you care?


TheBeibs
hopes his life isn't as meaningless when he retires
#dididothisright
 
You can bet i am a proud user of PRO=ONE

But I'll leave the make-up to you

Thats good I guess. Never heard of someone being proud of a aiming system.
Its a big world, I bet everything you could imagine has happened and from the looks of things , your imagination is pretty strong. :smile:


I was just kidding, hope I didn't hurt your feelings. Thats pretty cool to be proud like you are.
 
Except you're not. So why do you care?


TheBeibs
hopes his life isn't as meaningless when he retires
#dididothisright


Oh, I am waiting with bait on my breath to hear what the likes of MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley had to say about Stan's "work."

And of course you're right about the retirement thing...

...except Gail and I just got back from spending a few days in Manhattan. Stayed at the Marquis on Times Square. Saw four Broadway shows (don't you just love Sutton Foster). Ate at some great restaurants. Did some sightseeing and holiday shopping...

...so, how was your week?

Lou Figueroa
retirement ain't so bad
 
Oh, I am waiting with bait on my breath to hear what the likes of MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley had to say about Stan's "work."

And of course you're right about the retirement thing...

...except Gail and I just got back from spending a few days in Manhattan. Stayed at the Marquis on Times Square. Saw four Broadway shows (don't you just love Sutton Foster). Ate at some great restaurants. Did some sightseeing and holiday shopping...

...so, how was your week?

Lou Figueroa
retirement ain't so bad

But why do you care?

Will you be left unfulfilled if you never know?
 
Why do they care?

But why do you care?
Will you be left unfulfilled if you never know?
In addition to things I've posted here about the CTE Bashers being stubborn and closed minded, I think they just like to argue on websites.
That can be fun for a while, then it becomes boring :boring2:. Thereby setting them up for the ignore feature.
In a real life pool shooting establishment, I suspect they're quiet as mice.
 
Specifically in regards to CTE?

We've gone from it can't work to it can't work as advertised. How it's advertised is as an objective aiming system with zero feel or subconscious involvement.

So the non-users consider that false advertisement, or a marketing ploy? But why do they care? Are they going after McDonald's when their Big Mac didn't turn them into an Olympic athlete?

So why do they care? It's not as if they are ever going to use the system.

And what if they're right? What if it's proven that CTE is not 100% objective and it does involve feel. Does Stan change how the system is advertised? Probably. Do the non-users start using CTE? Doubtful. Do the users stop using CTE? Nope.

The simple answer is people like to argue. If there wasn't in arguing in the aiming section, all threads would die within the first page or two. There is basically no activity here unless it is an argument. It is rare for a new aiming system to be introduced so what else is there to talk about? It isn't that complicated. You can't keep reinventing the wheel.

Personally I cared for awhile because I bought the DVD. If you spend $45 on something, you kind of want their claims to be true. Is that fair to say? The DVD is called the final chapter. Was I wrong in believing that would be the end? Now a book is coming out. So is the DVD the final chapter or not? CTE is supposed to be easy but now there is almost a 40 chapter book coming out after two dvd's were released?

I am done with systems for a number of reasons. I just come here for entertainment value.
 
The simple answer is people like to argue. If there wasn't in arguing in the aiming section, all threads would die within the first page or two. There is basically no activity here unless it is an argument. It is rare for a new aiming system to be introduced so what else is there to talk about? It isn't that complicated. You can't keep reinventing the wheel.

Personally I cared for awhile because I bought the DVD. If you spend $45 on something, you kind of want their claims to be true. Is that fair to say? The DVD is called the final chapter. Was I wrong in believing that would be the end? Now a book is coming out. So is the DVD the final chapter or not? CTE is supposed to be easy but now there is almost a 40 chapter book coming out after two dvd's were released?

I am done with systems for a number of reasons. I just come here for entertainment value.

The entire range of shots of 15-60 presented in Chapters 8 and 9 are correct to include the visuals and their pivot directions.
As far as refinements to my work, yes, I am much much deeper into CTE's innerworksings.
As far as the FINAL CHAPTER goes at this point, I have no plans for any new videos at this juncture but as I said in DVD2, any new information will appear on YouTube. I plan on a series of 10 to 20 presentations that will cover the entire framework of CTE PRO ONE.....No one needs to purchase my 38 Chapter book.......
I am very pragmatic by nature and I am sorry that I have failed you.
In addition to my YouTube videos, I will be offering free clinics for the rest of my healthy days.
Have a great day!

Stan Shuffett
 
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But why do you care?

Will you be left unfulfilled if you never know?


It's a discussion board.

On this discussion board we talk about pool.

This is about pool.

Get over it.

Lou Figueroa
can't wait to hear
what Cal Tech had to say
 
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It's a discussion board.

On this discussion board we talk about pool.

This is about pool.

Get over it.

Lou Figueroa
can't wait to hear
what Cal Tech had to say
Are we really "talking" about pool or are we just bashing and trolling people on a forum?

Glad you had a nice vacation…..
 
Glad you had a nice vacation…..

It is jabs like this that keep the arguments going.

On an unrelated note, this forum is full of very intelligent people. Calling people stupid and/or saying they are not smart enough to understand something will keep the wheel of insults turning until the end of time. They know they aren't stupid, so get pissed and react when someone says those things.

Things just don't stay civil here. That is why Aiming got moved. So people could fight and argue about something which isn't viewed as important by most players.
 
It is jabs like this that keep the arguments going.

On an unrelated note, this forum is full of very intelligent people. Calling people stupid and/or saying they are not smart enough to understand something will keep the wheel of insults turning until the end of time. They know they aren't stupid, so get pissed and react when someone says those things.

Things just don't stay civil here. That is why Aiming got moved. So people could fight and argue about something which isn't viewed as important by most players.
No jab thrown..his vacation sounded awesome..having a hotel on Time Square is pretty amazing.
 
No jab thrown..his vacation sounded awesome..having a hotel on Time Square is pretty amazing.

On here, if someone is on vacation, they have been banned. My apologies since you said you were talking about a different vacation.
 
It's a discussion board.

On this discussion board we talk about pool.

This is about pool.

Get over it.

Lou Figueroa
can't wait to hear
what Cal Tech had to say

You're confusing discussing with trolling.

Need I explain which side of the coin you're on?
 
You're confusing discussing with trolling.

Need I explain which side of the coin you're on?


First off, anyone here who has followed the CTE discussion -- for 20 minutes or 20 years -- would be interested in hearing what happened when Stan submitted "his work," which he is always referring to here, to academic review. I'm guessing at this point, given his silence, that the response he got was underwhelming. Shoot, it'd even be interesting to hear what the local community college or tech school had to say.

As to the other, I promise to let you know if I ever have even the tiniest, teeniest interest in your definition of anything.

Lou Figueroa
I would not
hold my breath
 
First off, anyone here who has followed the CTE discussion -- for 20 minutes or 20 years -- would be interested in hearing what happened when Stan submitted "his work," which he is always referring to here, to academic review. I'm guessing at this point, given his silence, that the response he got was underwhelming. Shoot, it'd even be interesting to hear what the local community college or tech school had to say.

As to the other, I promise to let you know if I ever have even the tiniest, teeniest interest in your definition of anything.

Lou Figueroa
I would not
hold my breath

For your info:
I contacted Donald Hoffman of CA. We had great conversations by phone and email and one his concepts for my work with CTE will appear in my book.
He referred me to a world class visual team at Vanderbilt. There was definite interest there and our conversations are still open. Studies at universities such as CTE would require involve significant time and money.
Don't ever allow yourself to think that my work will not be studied at higher levels.

Stan Shuffett
 
For your info:
I contacted Donald Hoffman of CA. We had great conversations by phone and email and one his concepts for my work with CTE will appear in my book.
He referred me to a world class visual team at Vanderbilt. There was definite interest there and our conversations are still open. Studies at universities such as CTE would require involve significant time and money.
Don't ever allow yourself to think that my work will not be studied at higher levels.

Stan Shuffett


ah, OK.

There was phone call to Donald Hoffman, presumably the guy who wrote the article in "The Atlantic" entitled, "The Case Against Reality." Perfect, lol. And then he passed the buck to the lads at Vanderbilt. Got it. Thanks for the chuckle.

Lou Figueroa
 
ah, OK.

There was phone call to Donald Hoffman, presumably the guy who wrote the article in "The Atlantic" entitled, "The Case Against Reality." Perfect, lol. And then he passed the buck to the lads at Vanderbilt. Got it. Thanks for the chuckle.

Lou Figueroa

I was first in your presence in the late nineties at a US OPEN ONE POCKET event in Kalamazoo.
I learned very quickly that you are a first order *****. Your cue was laying on a table and you had a little fit because some fellow wanted to pick it up. I thought, "What a fricken *****.
A couple of days later at the gift area I found myself standing right next to you. I commented to you in a very friendly manner about an item that we each were looking at. You did not respond or make eye contact or squat. I thought, "This guy is a real areal ***** no doubt about it.
Now you are a ***** and an internet bully. Here is something else that you should not ever doubt. LIFE WILL TAKE OF YOU!

Stan Shuffett
 
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