why do you recommend custom cues?

[Egg McDogit]

I am asking you quite nicely to underline where you see it.

since you're being so nice, here you go again:

Hey guys;
I'm thinking about getting a Shone cue and I really dont know that much about them.
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One of the responses:
I have said it over and over... save your money... be patient... and buy a true custom cue from Ebay... there are some great deals to be had there... I have been on the selling and buying end of 4 cues and they were all great deals.... Just be careful who you buy from...

I don't see it. I think you're reading too much into the posts. It seems clear to me that the first response was talking about getting a great custom deal from eBay. Nowhere did the responder say anything about the cue hitting or performing better than any production cue.

that's pretty clear. I suppose he's recommending the buyer to get the cue because it holds it's value better...and it's customized. oh wait, it was customized for someone else. No wait, you're right, it's just a tangent.

And the second response? Are you satisfied that this response has no bearing on your argument?

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That said, I would recommend a Schuler over a Schon. I've owned both and simply prefered the hit and feel of the Schuler to the Schon. I think the Schuler is a better value as well--more cue for less money.

But I would seriously consider the suggestion to buy a used custom cue. If you buy a cue from one of the top names, it is far more likely to increase in value. Moreover, if you hit it, and don't like the way it feels or plays, you can return it.
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Yeah that has nothing to do with my argument. It's just a careless recommendation of custom cues, or in this case, semi-custom perhaps.

I've read some of the "discussions" you've been in and this is my last response to you.

 

[Cornerman]

I've read some of the "discussions" you've been in and this is my last response to you.

Well... that was pleasant. Thank you for boldfacing where you were getting your argument. Nothing you boldfaced represented your original argument. Nobody was claiming that a custom cue played better than a production cue. But, obviously, you didn't see it that way. Even when it was clearly pointed out.

The first was someone glorifying eBay. The second was someone suggesting cue value. Neither made any hints on better playability. The rest of the thread, including the second reply was singing praises for Schon cues.

The other threads of recent times were "Schon vs. Custom" and "Custom Recommendation for $500" (or something like that). Should there actually be any wonder why people bring up custom cue recommendations when posts are titled like that???

Have a nice day.

Fred

 

[NineBallNut]

I think we've got off on such a tangent here that maybe I have missed the point of this argument. I personally think that if you have $500 dollars to spend, that you would be better off buying a nice production cue that offers more of detailed look with inlays and such as opposed to buying a frieking custom sneaky pete. However, you must shoot with the production in question to make sure it feels solid and to your liking. I sell cues and have been able to try all kinds of brands as well as "some" custom cues. I have found production cues that I thought hit better than "some" of the customs. I have no argument that a custom cue taylored to your specific likings would most likely feel much better to sed customer than a cue off the rack. But I have seen many people on here telling others to forget production and buy custom. Problem for me is I like certain design and inlay types and to replicate that in a custom cue is going to cost me way more than I can afford

 

[Cornerman]

I think we've got off on such a tangent here that maybe I have missed the point of this argument. I personally think that if you have $500 dollars to spend, that you would be better off buying a nice production cue that offers more of detailed look with inlays and such as opposed to buying a frieking custom sneaky pete.

Okay. Why?

But I have seen many people on here telling others to forget production and buy custom.

Okay. Many people. Can you show me? I think it's important, since now two of you are suggesting that people blindly tell others to buy custom. I don't think I've ever seen that.

There's usually much more context to it, like, "if you're going to spend $500, you might as well have it made exactly how you want." That would tend to point toward the custom makers.

Or, as Mr. McDoggit has shown, posters point to increased value, trade in options, or resale. These are important added context to the argument.

Fred

 

[Snapshot9]

Reality ....

I think we've got off on such a tangent here that maybe I have missed the point of this argument. I personally think that if you have $500 dollars to spend, that you would be better off buying a nice production cue that offers more of detailed look with inlays and such as opposed to buying a frieking custom sneaky pete. However, you must shoot with the production in question to make sure it feels solid and to your liking. I sell cues and have been able to try all kinds of brands as well as "some" custom cues. I have found production cues that I thought hit better than "some" of the customs. I have no argument that a custom cue taylored to your specific likings would most likely feel much better to sed customer than a cue off the rack. But I have seen many people on here telling others to forget production and buy custom. Problem for me is I like certain design and inlay types and to replicate that in a custom cue is going to cost me way more than I can afford

I don't know where you go shopping, but Bob Owen (Shurtz cues)
makes a wood-wood SP for $160
phenolic joint SP for $170
SS joint for $190.

I have a SS SP from him, and it plays like a $6-700 cue. Very good balance, feel, and hit. It looks just like a barcue except for the joint.

 

[NineBallNut]

okay, I will try to find such posts to show you. I am not trying to argue with you on this.

"There's usually much more context to it, like, "if you're going to spend $500, you might as well have it made exactly how you want." That would tend to point toward the custom makers."

The point there is that for instance, I could not get anything made how I want it for $500. It would be to plain for my taste. Hell, most good production cues go for over $1000. I may not be able to supplement my opinion with enough facts for you to say "yeah he's got a point there" but hey it's just my opinion anyway. I do see your point however, and I was just offering up my view to help support eggs initial point that there are production cues that "hit" better than custom

 

[NineBallNut]

I don't know where you go shopping, but Bob Owen (Shurtz cues)
makes a wood-wood SP for $160
phenolic joint SP for $170
SS joint for $190.

I have a SS SP from him, and it plays like a $6-700 cue. Very good balance, feel, and hit. It looks just like a barcue except for the joint.

Point is I don't want a sneaky pete. I want some design on the cue. that doesn't happen for small bucks

 

[Cornerman]

The point there is that for instance, I could not get anything made how I want it for $500. It would be to plain for my taste.

But isn't that exactly what McDogit was arguing against? That fancier doesn't mean better?

I do see your point however, and I was just offering up my view to help support eggs initial point that there are production cues that "hit" better than custom

This is a point that I do believe he was trying to make, but I was saying nobody was arguing against that point. Ever. He is making up a phantom argument, and the result is a thread like this.

Fred

 

[NineBallNut]

But isn't that exactly what McDogit was arguing against? That fancier doesn't mean better?


This is a point that I do believe he was trying to make, but I was saying nobody was arguing against that point. Ever. He is making up a phantom argument, and the result is a thread like this.

Fred

very true sir. I was just adding my two cents.... maybe it was only worth one......lol

 

[iacas]

I have a SS SP from him, and it plays like a $6-700 cue. Very good balance, feel, and hit. It looks just like a barcue except for the joint.

Well which is does it play like, the $6 cue or the $700 cue?

Just joking... I know what you meant.