Why I don't like Diamond Barboxes
- Thread starter Suplex
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As far as I'm aware, most of the reds here in the PDX area have been changed out. I think Glen may have done that himself, I'm not sure.
Having learned on Valleys, it was a hard switch trying to play on Diamonds during the few occasions it required(mostly regional or league tournaments). When I do get the speed down, though, they're a great thing. I'm looking forward to playing on one regularly in the future.
Having learned on Valleys, it was a hard switch trying to play on Diamonds during the few occasions it required(mostly regional or league tournaments). When I do get the speed down, though, they're a great thing. I'm looking forward to playing on one regularly in the future.
takeitdown
Banned
There are two kinds of Diamond BB. The old one which has the "red lable" on the short rail, which has the typical "springy" rails. They changed it in 2010 wiht the "blue label" with better, less "springy" rails that are more approriate for a barbox.
The problem, is the places that have the red label are not gonna change it out anytime soon, and thus the only blue labels are gonna be from a bar odering a table after 2010. But the blue label barbox plays lights out, and is the NUTSA red label still beat the hell out of a valley, but it's not blue lable.. because as mentioned, you have to "bunt" the ball on certain shots, or that cue ball has a mind of it's own
A room near me has 8 blue labels. I love hem, probably just the change from 9 footers. I like offense and playing for 100-200 a set race to 5. Sometimes you just lose, you dont have to do anything wrong?
2 weeks back I play a great safe. Guy 2 rail kicked a ball and it went 3 rails and in , then ran 2 balls . It was hill hill to be uo 400 or even. Made me sick. Last week he made a 3 ball combo to win 100 set. I give up the 7 and all the breaks in 9 ball to him, a wild ride. I lost 600 the last 2 times. I will get him this week! I beat him for a lot over 2 years, thousands, so a few hundred is just feeding the fishes.
takeitdown
Banned
There are two kinds of Diamond BB. The old one which has the "red lable" on the short rail, which has the typical "springy" rails. They changed it in 2010 wiht the "blue label" with better, less "springy" rails that are more approriate for a barbox.
The problem, is the places that have the red label are not gonna change it out anytime soon, and thus the only blue labels are gonna be from a bar odering a table after 2010. But the blue label barbox plays lights out, and is the NUTS
A room near me has 8 blue labels. I love hem, probably just the change from 9 footers. I like offense and playing for 100-200 a set race to 5. Sometimes you just lose, you dont have to do anything wrong?
2 weeks back I play a great safe. Guy 2 rail kicked a ball and it went 3 rails and in , then ran 2 balls . It was hill hill to be uo 400 or even. Made me sick. Last week he made a 3 ball combo to win 100 set. I give up the 7 and all the breaks in 9 ball to him, a wild ride. I lost 600 over the last 2 times. I will get him this week! I beat him for a lot over 2 years, thousands, so a few hundred is just feeding the fishes.
To me, pool still feels like pool, 'babying' the ball around.
In fact seeing the ball finessed around delicately is what perfect pool looks like...
when your position and patterns are so good you never need to hit hard or draw long distances.
Everything is soft forward rolls, nip draw, and stop shots.
Even on a beat valley barbox, that's what I try to do.
If you wanna let your stroke out, probably need to stick to 9 footers.
I would agree though that 760 is complete overkill for barboxes.
I think by default they come with 860.
In fact seeing the ball finessed around delicately is what perfect pool looks like...
when your position and patterns are so good you never need to hit hard or draw long distances.
Everything is soft forward rolls, nip draw, and stop shots.
Even on a beat valley barbox, that's what I try to do.
If you wanna let your stroke out, probably need to stick to 9 footers.
I would agree though that 760 is complete overkill for barboxes.
I think by default they come with 860.
I was under the assumption it was made in illinois, guess that makes sense as to why it is so cheap, my bad.
The first time I ever played on a diamond BB, I said to my friend, "That's by far the most fun I've ever had playing on a bar box!"
It took me a while to get used to the speed too, but the adjustment I have made on Diamonds vs Valleys is: get straighter in on your shape. You don't need much angle to move the cue ball around.
It''s nice playing on a table where what actually happens is what was supposed to happen.
It took me a while to get used to the speed too, but the adjustment I have made on Diamonds vs Valleys is: get straighter in on your shape. You don't need much angle to move the cue ball around.
It''s nice playing on a table where what actually happens is what was supposed to happen.
But it's very hard to play touch shots on springy rails, especially safeties, cause you kill the cb on a safety, and that cb still comes off the rail an inch or two. I really don't love red label, but again, still much better than a valley
mr8ball
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I love em. We have pool room here that has 8 of the blue diamond one's. They play great. Yes they are Fast and springy but to be able to use that soft touch is amazing. Sometimes they get a little to fast but like others said you have to adjust. A little slower cloth will make them play different for sure but with the pocket angle it might be harder to make balls on it. JMO
quit cryn about it
just play what you're dealt...3 racks of practice should give you relative speeds and if it banks short or long
just play what you're dealt...3 racks of practice should give you relative speeds and if it banks short or long