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Why Is it Named Mosconi Cup?
- Thread starter Robb Browning
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Yeah. Add some Canadians and Mexicans to the team and then Europe will know they have a real match on their hands.
True but I'd be happy play him some 1pocket.
In any case, I could be wrong. I just recall thinking at the time that it was off (could have just been his accent, lol). As to the original question, I think it boils down to marketing. As another poster has pointed out, MF is really the most widely recognizable name in pool. But "The Minnesota Fats Cup" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Mosconi sounds better and is more respectable but as has also been pointed out in this thread, he hated 9ball. So like I said, I think it just boils down to marketing.
Lou Figueroa
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Geosnookery
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The Mosconi Cup is named after an American, is an American billiards game played on American style tables.
Hint: the Americans were simply outplayed at their own game. No changes are necessary to ‘even the odds’. The USA just needs a better team. They are usually much better at Nine ball than this year’s performance.
Robb Browning
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Get a decent sponsor and name it The Amazon Cup or the Apple Cup.
I truly don't think Willie would be happy about this event being named after him. He'd love it if it were a Straight Pool event but.... no bull.. he despised 9 Ball and said the game destroyed everything great about pool.
I don't agree with Willie on this... but it is what it is.
Little geography here...the most populated portion of Russia lies west of the Urals.....it’s Europe on that side.
Kaçi is Albanian....therefore European.
A British guy can have Indian ancestors.
I hear you. I just want to come up with a way to have Alex on our team. Canada doesn't sound like too much to ask for.
Since day one I said “Why not continent vs continent?
I felt that the Cup was a great way to spread pool world wide....it worked.
I recall that in 1994, when the Mosconi began, there was a Canadian player ranked in the world's top 20 named Claude Bernatchez. I saw him play on several occasions back then and he had plenty of game.
Geosnookery
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Spread pool worldwide?
Pool was spread wide long before the Mosconi Cup.
I played in Brazil, Russia, the UK, etc. long before the Mosconi Cup.
The Americans didn’t invent billiards. Even in recent times I’ve never played nine ball outside of the USA except for a couple times in Canada where ‘Pool’ Means 8 ball to 99% of the population.
There was no discussion of how unfair the MC format is in the last 2 years when USA won.
Now that they lost it becomes all this country versus continent stuff.
3 years ago when Europe won some people were screaming that Darren Appleton should be in the USA team because he lives there.
I wish you guys would make up your mind.
Now that they lost it becomes all this country versus continent stuff.
3 years ago when Europe won some people were screaming that Darren Appleton should be in the USA team because he lives there.
I wish you guys would make up your mind.
Gorst is from the European side of Russia, and Kaci is from Albania, which is in Europe also. I presume the 'Indians' you refer to are Raj Hundal and Imran Majid, although both those players were born in England. Not everyone with an 'Indian' sounding name was born in India, just as I wouldn't presume that you are Hungarian.
“I” and Michaela? Really?...sometimes we see eye to eye...and sometimes we don’t....
...this is one of the times we don’t....
Robb Browning
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There have always been discussions about improving the Mosconi Cup and it has improved over the years.
There has always been discussion about improving all aspects of pool and billiards, but overall it has stayed pretty dreadful compared to most sports and professional competitions.
If you want to succeed in ANYTHING (marriage, business, anything) you have to adapt, grow, change, evolve). We are the Kodak of the sports world.
There are reasons it hasn't progressed and one of the big ones is reflected on this forum.... Too many pool players are frightened of change and are argumentative, self-rightous hot-heads that purposely hold everyone and everything back. They failed so they keep the young players failing. The progressive people wind up shaking their heads and walking away saying, "OK --- Keep what's broken and maybe if we all pray the problems will magically go away." ////// The fact of the matter is: the conservative players DON'T WANT to make it better. They lived broke so they make sure everyone lives broke.
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Robb Browning
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Hockey started with two Canadian teams on a frozen pond. If they hadn't evolved, grown, changed, added-to, expanded and progressed 4 people in Canada would've loved it. Doing what those 4 people wanted would've been a big mistake.
Pro baseball started with 6 teams in the Northeast US and some people tried to hold them back too.
Pro football was an exclusive activity in Ohio exactly 100 years ago and many people in Ohio didn't want to share their secret pastime.
Basketball started in the late 1800s by tossing fruit into a fruit-baskets. It was a way to make farming more entertaining and farmers didn't want to take it off the farm.
Dear Pool-World
Stop letting petrified, selfish conservative losers hold this sport, and its players, back.
Pro baseball started with 6 teams in the Northeast US and some people tried to hold them back too.
Pro football was an exclusive activity in Ohio exactly 100 years ago and many people in Ohio didn't want to share their secret pastime.
Basketball started in the late 1800s by tossing fruit into a fruit-baskets. It was a way to make farming more entertaining and farmers didn't want to take it off the farm.
Dear Pool-World
Stop letting petrified, selfish conservative losers hold this sport, and its players, back.
“I” and Michaela? Really?...sometimes we see eye to eye...and sometimes we don’t....
...this is one of the times we don’t....
geez, can’t catch a break, lol.
Lou Figueroa
fixed it