I am with the inside english shooters on this one. I have stuck myself behind where the 9 by hitting it, too many times to mess with the 2 rail shape. In this layout it is not too bad, but with the 9 deeper to the corner or closer to the side rail, I tend to screw that up more times than I would like to admit.
Why Is This A Hard Shot For Me?
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I understand the focus of this question is why do you miss this shot. Initially, it would seem that discussing how to shoot this shot completely differently, although possibly informative, would be completely off topic.
That is of course unless you take into consideration that perhaps you miss this shot because a portion of your focus is devoted to missing the nine ball with your cue ball by dancing around it.
For some players this may fall naturally, but IMO since I do believe you may be splitting your concentration between your shot and missing a kiss on the nine, I will venture off topic and suggest something else with the relevance of your possible split concentration in mind for a reason as to why you miss this shot.
You can put the nine ball kiss completely out of your mind and refocus on making the shot by using some high inside english and hit it smooth and soft. I see no reason to try to run around the back of the nine and complicate things as it is pictured. (maybe its just the straight pool player in me that sees it this way)
That is of course unless you take into consideration that perhaps you miss this shot because a portion of your focus is devoted to missing the nine ball with your cue ball by dancing around it.
For some players this may fall naturally, but IMO since I do believe you may be splitting your concentration between your shot and missing a kiss on the nine, I will venture off topic and suggest something else with the relevance of your possible split concentration in mind for a reason as to why you miss this shot.
You can put the nine ball kiss completely out of your mind and refocus on making the shot by using some high inside english and hit it smooth and soft. I see no reason to try to run around the back of the nine and complicate things as it is pictured. (maybe its just the straight pool player in me that sees it this way)
Because you aren't very good at pool.
The ENTIRE reason that you posted yet another missed shot thread is that you need your weekly dose of attention.
I absolutely guarantee you that you have posted this EXACT same shot before. You missed it then, and you're still missing it. Why? You're a drama queen.
And, as BJ said, you don't have a clue about tangent lines. (paraphrase)
Why BJ is even attempting to educate you is beyond me. Perhaps he missed the first hundred or so threads where you cry about missing hangers? Perhaps he isn't aware that you take a lesson from pros, yet are more interested in challenging their methods than applying what they attempted to teach you.
But I think he replies with good info to help OTHER AZers, cause he realizes that you are beyond help. And for that, good job, BJ!
You ARE the one who started a Thread just to point out that Alison's stroke wasn't very smooth, right??
Folks, he's not asking for help here. Been there, done that - HUNDREDS of times. He's begging for attention.
I absolutely guarantee you that you have posted this EXACT same shot before. You missed it then, and you're still missing it. Why? You're a drama queen.
And, as BJ said, you don't have a clue about tangent lines. (paraphrase)
Why BJ is even attempting to educate you is beyond me. Perhaps he missed the first hundred or so threads where you cry about missing hangers? Perhaps he isn't aware that you take a lesson from pros, yet are more interested in challenging their methods than applying what they attempted to teach you.
But I think he replies with good info to help OTHER AZers, cause he realizes that you are beyond help. And for that, good job, BJ!
You ARE the one who started a Thread just to point out that Alison's stroke wasn't very smooth, right??
Folks, he's not asking for help here. Been there, done that - HUNDREDS of times. He's begging for attention.
TX Poolnut said:
I can't believe you just said that! LOL. Watch, next week DCP will post a thread saying that he tried this again and ended up corner hooked behind the point of the lower left pocket. LMAO.
Just kidding with you, DCP. I think it's good progress that you posted without complaining about bad luck or anger, frustration, etc. Have you tried the 6-ball ghost yet by the way??
I wouldnt shoot it like described, I would take leave one maybe two rails with top/ high left. That way, no matter how hard you hit it, within reason you are in line. The way you are shooting it, you are crossing your line of shape, and if you over hit it, you get snookered
This shot will sucker in many players, trying to do to much with the cue ball.
My suggestion is stay near the center of the cue ball, then use speed to obtain the desired position. Im not saying dead center, maybe high, maybe low, maybe a touch of sidespin, do not use more than a half a tip.
SPINDOKTOR
My suggestion is stay near the center of the cue ball, then use speed to obtain the desired position. Im not saying dead center, maybe high, maybe low, maybe a touch of sidespin, do not use more than a half a tip.
SPINDOKTOR
This here is one of them thar natural angle shots...just hit it with center and the right speed and BOOM!!! there ya are...
Jude Rosenstock said:
If the diagram has been drawn correctly I woud tend to be with Jude on this.
However in all honesty either way it's an extremely simple and straightforward run out and it would probably be harder to deliberately pot that 7 in such a way as to have no decent shot on the 8 ball as it would be to leave yourself some kind of reasonable shot on it, so presumably your problem DCP is mainly in making the 7 rather than getting position. Work on the pot first, I guarantee you'll have reasonable shape on the 8 as much as 9 times out of each 10 times you make the 7 no matter how you play it. Then work on the cue ball control after you are more comfortable in the knowledge that the world is not going to cave in position wise as long as you make the pot. Wouldn't necesarily give the same advice to everyone but your particular "the pool gods hate me" mind set screams out for that approach.
Are you right handed and if the balls were similarly positioned relative to each other but in the opposite side of the table would you have the same difficulty with a similar cut shot on the 7 towards the opposite (ie left) pocket? A lot of right handers are of course much more comfortable cutting in that direction.
To be honest i would just pocket the ball and even if i were to hit the 9 i dont see how in the world i wont have a shot on the 8 thats right in front of the pocket.Position on this shot isnt that difficult,position on the 8 from the 7should be accomplised by a D player even. 
Neil said:
well, that is a good question. perhaps i was more concerned where the cue ball was going rather than making the shot?
and those that say even if you run into the 9-Ball you will have a shot..........well, with my luck, if i hit the 9-Ball it is going to end up blocking the shot to the 8-Ball. thats just the way things go for me, and i wasnt going to take a chance on that happening.
DCP
Dude ... this is your problem. You don't even give yourself a chance to enjoy the game. You put way too much emphasis on being "perfect". Learn to enjoy the game first. People miss all of the time. Even really good players get bad rolls. I know this is like beating a dead horse but you really need to lighten up and appreciate your time at the table. It's not the end-of-the-world if things don't go your way.DrCue'sProtege said:
DCP, this might help you. The angle of the drawn shot would been like 30-32 degrees. Every angle between 30 and 90 degrees, I always suggest players to walk to the opposite side of the table. So when you are standing behind the CB, go to the other side of the table, nearby the 7-ball. That way, you can see how far the 7-ball is away from the rail, and what kind of angle you need to have. This is crucial information. If you are standing behind the CB you can't 100% always predict the right angle, that way you will miss the shot. If you see the angle, you will know how to make that shot. There are peoples asking my why I'm standing behind the 7-ball, and not looking at the straight line were the 7-ball should go. It's because when you are standing behind the 7, the angle would been much clearer. When I know the angle, I will know how full or thin I need to hit the 7 to pot the ball.
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