Why Is This Shot So Difficult For Me?

Protege,
It looks like a simple 1/2 ball hit with maybe .5-1 cue tip below dead center. You dont want the cue to be sliding at the point of impact because it will drag the oblect ball. Once you get familiar with the 1/2 and 1/4 ball hits it will become almost natural to shoot them.
 
CreeDo said:
that kind of shot is pretty much common as dirt in 9b and you should fall in love with those kinds of 2 rail ...

Looks like you are right in line with that angle. It is a good one b/c you get to strike the ball firmly.

I say try to get to the side rail, or you could hit it harder an go 4 rails to shoot 2b in the side...
 
I rack balls said:
Hit it like this, watch the throw on the object ball and let the spin take it around the table..............

Eric.


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Yeah, this is the path you want. It does involve a below-center hit (although not draw; it's a stun shot so your backspin should have worn off at contact). You'll want a hefty amount of left and a softer touch, meaning it will largely be the spin, and not the initial CB speed, that gets you around the rails. The reason you want a lot of spin is because it gives you a speed control margin of error on the 3rd rail; the more spin you have, the faster it gets to the 3rd rail and the more it dies when it hits. You can hit the CB with a fairly wide margin of force and still end up with very similar results if you spin the ball for 3 rails. This seems to be how to pros shoot this shot.

-Andrew
 
BRKNRUN said:
Forget the lay of the 2 ball. Just set up the 1 ball and hit the shot 1000 to the first diamond, 1000 to the second diamond. 1000 to the third diamond...and then even attempt the fourth diamond...(see if you can hold the CB on that side of the table).....Once you can hit those specific spots on the rail.....at will...then you will be able to make slight adjustments from there to get perfect no matter where the 2 ball lays for this "type" of shot.
Excellent post. There is a similar speed control drill that I'd like to recommend, as shown in the WEI diagram below.

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The shot diagrammed by I Rack Balls is the classic two-railer for this type of situation, and you must develop the ability to accurately send the cue ball to each of the diamonds on the third rail. In fact, that particular angle, on all object balls laying on the line between the one's position and the pocket is considered the ideal angle for moving the ball around two rails to the center of the table or at a specific point on the third rail. Set up shots of that nature and learn to do this using both the clock system and the vertical axis of the cue ball. I stress learning both ways because there will be times when you have to make this play with an elevated cue, and we know what english would do in that situation!

If you come out of this thread with nothing else though, remember these three things: 1. The key to successfully playing position is to consistently use natural routes that end up, as much as possible, bringing the cue ball down the line of the intended angle instead of going across it. 2. When you use the rails for shape, give yourself a specific target to hit. 3. 9-ball is a game of angles and patterns. There are certain patterns and types of shots for moving the ball across and up and down table that recur again and again. Get instructional material and watch top players to learn these patterns, and then put in the work to master them and make them your own.

Good luck, and remember to try without trying!
 
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Neil said:
Correct. You do stand a chance of scratching in the side, but with a little practice you will learn how to avoid it. If you hit the rail just after the side, your speed is less critical bacause you are on the correct path instead of going across it.
I think that's the right shot, and there's very little risk of scratching in the side pocket. In fact, I think the shot should be hit with draw to hit nearer the corner pocket, and with no sidespin to hit as near the side pocket as possible.

pj
chgo
 
I like the 3 railer for position too, rather than the 2 railer. Speed-wise, I almost always commit to staying high on the next ball, rather than below it, if I can.
 
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