Willie Mosconi Quiz on why he did this?

You have great wisdom my friend............

sfleinen said:
Gene:

You're on -- I humbly accept your offer. While I'm a staunch advocate against the "upgrade gravy train" (remember, I'm in I.T. and I deal all day long with vendors touting their "latest" as being a "mandatory upgrade"), I'm hoping your third iteration is the one that finally nails it -- "three times' a charm." I do have your first two DVDs, but to be honest -- for me -- they didn't cover any new ground that I didn't already know from Richard's book, and the exercises / visualization troubleshooting techniques he details in it. On those days when I'm not visualizing my best -- when a known committed-to-muscle-memory shot isn't looking quite right -- I go through a mental checklist built from what I've learned from Richard's book, and I'm very quickly right back on track. It's usually a problem in my pre-shot routine, and the mental checklist illuminates it. This "self-realignment" is especially helpful when you're under duress (e.g. in an important match), when human tendency is to take shortcuts.

I do agree with you that many people do not know which is their *pool playing* dominant eye. (It's important to note that the notion of ocular dominance is not a "fixed price -- it's always this way for all activities" thing. One of your eyes may be dominant for aiming in pool, but your other eye may take over dominance for other activities.) One example is a friend of mine that plays in the APA. He tried to convince me with his utmost will that he's right-eye dominant, "because he shoots firearms with his right eye." (Of course, he's a right-hander, and it's natural to sight with that same-side eye over the sights.) But when watching him play -- when he's playing at his best and not side-tracked thinking about fundamentals -- his LEFT EYE is over the cue. He didn't believe me, so when he was down on a shot one day, with me directly in front of him some distance away, I snuck a cell-phone picture of him just prior to him pulling the trigger (flash turned off, of course). And then I showed this picture to him. Needless to say, he was dumbfounded at what the picture plainly told -- his left eye was over the cue. Armed with that information now, he no longer "forces" himself to adhere to the belief that his right eye should be over the cue (which, when he does this -- playing with his right eye over the cue -- he plays far below par). He's now *much* more consistent with his abilities. The point? The notion of "dominant eye" is not a fixed entity -- whatever eye is dominant with one activity, may not (and often is not) dominant in another activity.

In summary, Gene, I accept your offer. I do think that what you're doing is to [indirectly] keep alive the great work that Richard did, and expand on it, making it easier than ever to learn, as compared to Richard's comprehensive book which requires many passes through to absorb. Much value in that endeavor, for sure, and it lives up to your notion that you're doing your best to give and help players play better in the shortest amount of time. Just let's keep away from the "I feel like Christopher Columbus discovering a new world" and "Hear no evil, see no evil" (related to not acknowledging the existence of Richard Kranicki's then-groundbreaking work, which preceded yours). If you do all that, you'll be doing a tremendous service to the pool playing community for sure!

Regards,
-Sean
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Hi there Sean,

You have knowledge and insight that many people do not have. i am confident that you will be pleasantly surprised at what you see when you have the new video in hand.

In the early 90's I was teaching Perfect Aim but I didn't have a name on it. There was no internet back then and I wasn't interested back then in teaching everyone. Only my friends. I was just trying to beat everyone I played.

I was doing this in the 80's and won an awful lot of tournaments everywhere I went. This was the reason. I hardly missed. I only played on bar tables back then but the players knew of my game.

Many times when playing these other great players I would figure out which eye was dominant so that when I pushed out I would make them shot with their non dominant eye to attempt a safe or try to shoot the shot.

This is what Perfect aim is all about.

We have a non dominant eye and a dominant eye. They both shoot totally different.

When you cut a ball to the right the right eye shoots the shot. When you shoot a ball to the left the left eye shoots the shot.

The meat of Perfect aim is teaching a player how to aim both ways correctly.

How to correct the aim on every shot quick and easy.

If you saw my personal lesson you would totally understand that the meat of perfect aim stands all alone.

I read that book from cover to cover. Some things are good and show where the eyes are. Alot of diagrams and lots of info. Alot about too many different ways to see and look. You'ld have to be smarter than me to figure it all out.

Some things are confusing. But he's doing the best to try and explain. And maybe he is doing a great job and I'm not smart enough to figure it out from the book.

I teach that when you cut a ball to the right it is all your right eye that is shooting the shot and I can prove it and show my student that it is true by letting them see and understand it themselves.

I teach that when I cut a ball to the left it is all the left eye that shoots the shot.

Unfortuanately my first video was originally made so the player i was giving the lesson to would have some backup to try and remember what they learned.

The second one was an attempt to make a better video and include some valuable info that I didn't have on the first and try to explain everything better.

Both times I knew that there would be players that just could not understand what it was I was trying to explain and the biggest setback was they didn't properly identify the dominant eye. This is why I always offer free phone advice and I got pretty good at teaching this right over the phone.

The new video has an explaination before each part. There is a whole part that shows the player how to find their pool shooting dominant eye for sure.

In neither video do I explain what the biggest problem is with the aim. When you are cutting the ball the way of your non dominant eye.
This is everyones problem. This is the meat of Perfect Aim also. Showing players how to fix this age old problem that nobody has ever figured out.

if a player shot 25 shots to the right and 25 shots to the left they would find that cutting the balls the way of their dominant eye would not only be easier to aim but more successful. I've done this with players numerous times.

If a player prefers to shoot a spot shot to the right by choice they are usually right eye dominant. To the left they are usually left eye dominant .

The reason for this is it is harder to cut most shot the way of your non dominant eye.

This is the meat of Perfect Aim and every player on the planet needs to know this to tweak their aim to the best of their ability.

I know that if I could teach you what I teach you would understand exactly what I am talking about.

After the lesson you would understand why I need to make this new video. It will clear so many things up for so many players. In fact you would probably tell me to get it done as fast as possible.

Pool Players need this for sure.

You should call me sometime and let me run you through the whole thing. it wouldn't take that long. I usually do it 4 or 5 times a week for players all over the world. Some of them didn't understand at all but when we got done they understood pretty well.

I don't just want to give players information. I want to give them a solution to the problems they have with their aiming.

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to sell videos.

It is what it is.

I hope you call me some time Sean. Looking forward to it. Geno...........

And my reference to old Chris was in retaliation in the begining of teaching Perfect Aim. i was constantly attacked by teachers of the game and just players in general saying that what I was teaching didn't work even though they had no idea.

Had nothing to do with Richards book. I didn't even know it existed at that time.

I had some but not all teachers tell me all the time that they already taught what I was teaching. They didn't even know what it was??????

How crazy is that.
 
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sfleinen said:
Gene:

You're on -- I humbly accept your offer. While I'm a staunch advocate against the "upgrade gravy train" (remember, I'm in I.T. and I deal all day long with vendors touting their "latest" as being a "mandatory upgrade"), I'm hoping your third iteration is the one that finally nails it -- "three times' a charm." I do have your first two DVDs, but to be honest -- for me -- they didn't cover any new ground that I didn't already know from Richard's book, and the exercises / visualization troubleshooting techniques he details in it. On those days when I'm not visualizing my best -- when a known committed-to-muscle-memory shot isn't looking quite right -- I go through a mental checklist built from what I've learned from Richard's book, and I'm very quickly right back on track. It's usually a problem in my pre-shot routine, and the mental checklist illuminates it. This "self-realignment" is especially helpful when you're under duress (e.g. in an important match), when human tendency is to take shortcuts.

I do agree with you that many people do not know which is their *pool playing* dominant eye. (It's important to note that the notion of ocular dominance is not a "fixed price -- it's always this way for all activities" thing. One of your eyes may be dominant for aiming in pool, but your other eye may take over dominance for other activities.) One example is a friend of mine that plays in the APA. He tried to convince me with his utmost will that he's right-eye dominant, "because he shoots firearms with his right eye." (Of course, he's a right-hander, and it's natural to sight with that same-side eye over the sights.) But when watching him play -- when he's playing at his best and not side-tracked thinking about fundamentals -- his LEFT EYE is over the cue. He didn't believe me, so when he was down on a shot one day, with me directly in front of him some distance away, I snuck a cell-phone picture of him just prior to him pulling the trigger (flash turned off, of course). And then I showed this picture to him. Needless to say, he was dumbfounded at what the picture plainly told -- his left eye was over the cue. Armed with that information now, he no longer "forces" himself to adhere to the belief that his right eye should be over the cue (which, when he does this -- playing with his right eye over the cue -- he plays far below par). He's now *much* more consistent with his abilities. The point? The notion of "dominant eye" is not a fixed entity -- whatever eye is dominant with one activity, may not (and often is not) dominant in another activity.

In summary, Gene, I accept your offer. I do think that what you're doing is to [indirectly] keep alive the great work that Richard did, and expand on it, making it easier than ever to learn, as compared to Richard's comprehensive book which requires many passes through to absorb. Much value in that endeavor, for sure, and it lives up to your notion that you're doing your best to give and help players play better in the shortest amount of time. Just let's keep away from the "I feel like Christopher Columbus discovering a new world" and "Hear no evil, see no evil" (related to not acknowledging the existence of Richard Kranicki's then-groundbreaking work, which preceded yours). If you do all that, you'll be doing a tremendous service to the pool playing community for sure!

Regards,
-Sean
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Interesting info about dominant eye changing among different activities.
This is the first time I have heard about this phenomenon. My own
shotmaking is especially sensitive to dominat-eye-to-shaft alignment.
Any time my alignment strays off from shaft directly under my eye, my
shotmaking drops off. But that may be just me.

So, how important do you think it is to maintain the SAME alignment
of eye relative to shaft? Or do you think it is important at all?

Dale
 
Your eyes should always be the same......

pdcue said:
Interesting info about dominant eye changing among different activities.
This is the first time I have heard about this phenomenon. My own
shotmaking is especially sensitive to dominat-eye-to-shaft alignment.
Any time my alignment strays off from shaft directly under my eye, my
shotmaking drops off. But that may be just me.

So, how important do you think it is to maintain the SAME alignment
of eye relative to shaft? Or do you think it is important at all?

Dale
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When you are down on a straight in shot you will see where your eyes should be all the time.

This should be your spot on all shots. But because of the optical illusions we stray from this on different shots.

Once you determine your pool shooting dominant eye you need to know what to do with it.

Just knowing where it needs to be is not enough but knowing how to keep the dominant eye in the dominant position on all shots.

Once you master this the results can start to be pretty amazing.

And that's what we're after is amazing........................

it took me a long time to figure this out. Many lessons and alot of observations but the final product is what it is.

About 40% of the players I test pass every test that says they are a certain eye dominant only to find out they are just the opposite when they aim a pool shot.

That's why I stress so much that if someone is having trouble understanding my video it was usually they were identifying the wrong eye dominant.

Once this was established the results were much better.

I'm really impressed. Sean is the first person in the whole world that actually agrees with me on this. I need to find out how he knew this. Brilliant.
 
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pdcue said:
Interesting info about dominant eye changing among different activities.
This is the first time I have heard about this phenomenon. My own
shotmaking is especially sensitive to dominat-eye-to-shaft alignment.
Any time my alignment strays off from shaft directly under my eye, my
shotmaking drops off. But that may be just me.

So, how important do you think it is to maintain the SAME alignment
of eye relative to shaft? Or do you think it is important at all?

Dale
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Hi Dale:

Unfortunately I don't have time at the moment to compose a detailed reply (I'm getting ready to catch a train into Manhattan for a customer meeting). But I wanted to get a quick reply off to you to let you know I saw your post.

Briefly, the concept of "fixed" ocular dominance is a myth. Because each eye attaches (via the optical nerve) to separate hemispheres of the brain, each eye therefore "inherits" hemispherical strengths unique to you. As an example, one eye may be good for quick-focus, up-close work, while the other eye is good for wide-area, panoramic things. In fact, that very example applies to me (my left eye for the former, right eye for the latter). But I aim with both eyes centered over the cue, because that's how the shot appears to me naturally; if I try to put the cue under (or "mostly under") my left eye, I lose "centeredness" and I literally can't make a ball.

It's a heady read, but the following Oxford Journals article on ocular dominance may interest you:

http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/125/9/2023.full

Let me know what you think; I'll check in later,
-Sean
 
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decent dennis said:
how do you center both eyes over your cue?
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I'm not Sean, but I think he is refering to having the cue centered
beneath your chin, as many of the great Brit Snooker players do.
That way, the shaft is centered between your eyes.

Dale
 
sfleinen said:
Hi Dale:

Unfortunately I don't have time at the moment to compose a detailed reply (I'm getting ready to catch a train into Manhattan for a customer meeting). But I wanted to get a quick reply off to you to let you know I saw your post.

Briefly, the concept of "fixed" ocular dominance is a myth. Because each eye attaches (via the optical nerve) to separate hemispheres of the brain, each eye therefore "inherits" hemispherical strengths unique to you. As an example, one eye may be good for quick-focus, up-close work, while the other eye is good for wide-area, panoramic things. In fact, that very example applies to me (my left eye for the former, right eye for the latter). But I aim with both eyes centered over the cue, because that's how the shot appears to me naturally; if I try to put the cue under (or "mostly under") my left eye, I lose "centeredness" and I literally can't make a ball.

It's a heady read, but the following Oxford Journals article on ocular dominance may interest you:

http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/125/9/2023.full

Let me know what you think; I'll check in later,
-Sean
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My quick reaction is this seems to fit with what I have observed.
The world class Brit Snooker players are thought by many to excell
in potting<pure shot making>. After viewing many pics and videos
of Snooker, it seems to me they vary from player to player, but are
highly consistent as individuals. Stephen Hendry, for example, has the
shaft directly under the center of his chin. Ronnie O'Sulivan has it
about half way between his nose and his right eye.

Thanks for the link, will read it later today.

Dale
 
pdcue said:
I'm not Sean, but I think he is refering to having the cue centered
beneath your chin, as many of the great Brit Snooker players do.
That way, the shaft is centered between your eyes.

Dale
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Dennis was just being a menace. He knows. He just left off a smiley face emoticom.
 
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