Win a free Jay Flowers Style Cue Case

I simply love the game....its been to long ago now to remember how I started.

I keep playing cuz I'm sure I still suck,and that aint cool.

(thats gotta be a case winner!!)
 
Great Thread

As I just read thru this thread came the realization that I have never asked myself WHY I play pool and the answer has come in 2 parts.

First I went back to the history in my life of the game. As a child I was never exposed to pool until I was 11-12. My parents purchased a "trailor" on the lake (in a park of about 50) for weekends in Guntersville, AL. Dad was then a bass fisherman and at this park were many families. On Saturday nights 6-10 of the kids all got shuttled to town to go to the "show" i.e. movie theater. several of us would not go to the movie but would go spend our movie money at the downtown pool hall in a basement on the downtown square. We smoked cigarettes and I was first exposed to the game. The owner and his son would rack the balls and collect $.10 for a game. The local kids I went with gambled and were pretty good. I still have fond memories.

Since then I played a little with friends thru high school (at the most once every few months) Most pool tables I saw in my life were only used for laundry, as large hobby tables or just covered and surrounded in what was the junk room at someones house. (this was my later teens, 20's and 30's)

I was reintroduced to the game in 2005 when I moved back to Huntsville from Atlanta. I had moved in with a friend when I came back and he had just purchased a 9' Olhausen. We started playing and I have not stopped since. We play league now a couple nights a week and we still play weekends at his house. I have really become addicted in the last few years and work hard to improve my game.

But as to why I play pool.

I had become a PC game junkie, It was a lot of fun. I played strategy (almost chess like) games online (1 on 1) with people from all over the world for hours and hours. The big problem was I sat on my arse being an antisocial zombie eating junk food playing games for hours upon hours.
I have since gone "cold turkey" on the games and I realize this is why I play pool.

Pool satifies the need I have for games of strategy with an opponent. It may not be the best of exercise but It sure beats sitting at a PC and It allows me to meet a lot of new people and make new friends.

Thanks for letting me ramble and I hope it makes some sense.

My problem now is that I think I am becoming a pool cue junkie. Its hard to tell if it's the pool cue or someones avatar getting me excited when I look in the for sale section here on AZ.
 
I was definitely a late bloomer when it comes to playing pool. I remember playing a couple of times during high school with friends but nothing serious. It wasn't until years later while in the Air Force that I learned what REAL pool was. I was in Airman Leadership School and became close friends with a guy from Brooklyn. One night we were at the bowling alley and he was kicking my ass on the lanes so I told him we should play pool so I could return the favor. To this day I have no idea why I did this but needless to say he accepted my challenge.
We went to the local VFW where they had the biggest table I had ever seen, a 9 footer, in perfect condition. As I grabbed a house cue off the rack he was pulling a two piece out of his case and screwing it together. Again, something I had never seen. What happened next changed my life forever. He proceeded to run racks on me and just beat me mercilessly. He made shots from anywhere, getting perfect shape, avoiding my balls all the while. I remember sitting there with this dumbfounded look on my face as this went on for about an hour. I guess I could have just tucked my tail between my legs and called it a night but I was so fascinated that all I could do was plead with him to show me how he did that.

For the next month we spent at least two hours a night, 5 days a week, at the VFW as I just acted like a sponge and hung on his every word and piece of advice. I finally got to a point where I could give him a decent game and others would join in and we would play pill pool. One night I actually won a few bucks and that was it, pool was now officially part of who I was. It took me two years but I actually got the point where I could beat my friend. Not always but we were close to even. I still remember feeling guilty when I finally beat him. It was almost like beating my dad at something. I told him I got lucky and he laughed and said, "if we weren't here night in and night out playing I might agree with you but it ain't luck when you put that much effort into it." I hadn't felt this happy in a LONG time.
Fast forward a couple of years and I am now out of the service and back home. I quickly joined my friends APA team. My first tournament I ever entered was a 2,3,4 skill level tournament and I remember telling my buddy that I didn't expect to do much but the experience would be great. Well, to my surprise I won the whole thing and was told by most players I faced that I should be a 5. First time in my life I ever heard the term sandbagging...LOL, if they only knew how nervous I really was.

Now, 12 years later, I am still playing APA, loving the time with my friends and doing something I love to do. I have taken lessons, visitied with Hal Houle, snapped off a couple of local tournaments, spent countless dollars on equipment, met some of the greatest people on earth, and have genuinely loved every minute of it.

Koop - that's my story and I am sticking to it.
 
JB Cases said:
Okay I have been asked when the contest will end. I will end it on Sunday night and the winners will be picked.

Here is the first case that was made in this new line for a customer:

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So get your entry by simply telling me why you play pool.

Was that case made for Ronnie Alcano?

When he played me some cheap one pocket at the U.S. OPen ( Ball championship, everytime I missed an easy shot, he would say, "Easy Money" in a high pitched voice that had everyone laughing including me.
JoeyA
 
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JoeyA said:
Was that case made for Ronnie Alcano?

When he played me some cheap one pocket at the U.S. OPen ( Ball championship, everytime I missed and easy shot, he would say, "Easy Money" in a high pitched voice that had everyone laughing including me.
JoeyA

I am the lucky owner of this case. Sweeeeeeeet!

The name is because I'm easy money and since I like to come in and collect my money after someone else wins a set.
 
Here's my short story JB....

Well, I grew up in a small River Town in Iowa.....there wasn't much to do growing up besides playing baseball or football in the sandlots but, basketball was my favorite when we could get the Nuns to let us in the neighborhood gym :)

My freinds and I always seemed to enjoy competing in whatever games we could get organized -- kickball I understand is having a comeback now!? :wink:

Anyways, we had a local pool hall down by the water which seemed to us kids at the time to be a somewhat rough and tumble place. We would ride our bikes down by the poolhall and hangout outside and watch the events inside until one of the guys would come out and chase us away from the windows.

I can't remember for sure but, my guess is that we were around 10 or 11 years old. We never ever got the chance to step foot into that poolhall as I remember -- as it burn't to the ground when we were in Jr. High :(

When we got into Jr. High a group of us guys started going out with our parents on the weekends to the Knights of Columbus and Eagles fraternal clubs in town. All you can eat Fish & Chicken.....they all had pool tables which is probably the first time I ever got to drag a cue around the felt :embarrassed2:

Sometime in the next few years I found myself at a local Sportsman Shop in town where my Uncles and Dad would go on Friday afternoons for a cold beer. This is where I really remember playing my first game of pool. My "Favorite Uncle" Tommy worked for my other Uncle's furniture store and he would come down sometimes delivering furniture with my Dad. Tommy liked to play pool and near as I can figure, he must have learned how to play the game while he was enlisted in the Navy during WWII.

My Dad always told me he was a "Hustler" which I never really understood until quite a few years later when I was in college :confused:

I think Tommy may have been the first guy I ever played a straight-up game of pool against!? Needless to say, I was still dragging the cue around the table trying to figure out what to shoot -- Tommy kinda showed me how to shoot the balls in the pocket -- if you know what I mean :wink:

I really never thought too much about the game of pool at that age but, I can remember always getting excited when Fats or Willie were playing on the WILD WORLD OF SPORTS on the Sunday TV broadcasts!

I loved to watch these events on TV but, my competitive nature kept me involved at the time with baseball/football/basketball or whatever was going on thru school. This pretty much remained the same thru High School and into College.

Once I got into College, at ISU, we had the Union which had these MONSTER tables that seemed twice as large as anything I'd ever seen. Plus, they all had these funny colored balls.....and the weird thing was nobody else seemed to know what to do with them either :confused: I can't remember anyone (save a couple folks) ever being in the poolhall when I was there playing on these tables?!? Go figure Aye!????

But, a Frat buddy of mine really liked to play pool and, he invited me down to a local Pub to play a few games. We both seemed to enjoy banging the balls around for a few beers, etc., and I can remember starting to appreciate the game at this point -- I felt like I could make the balls fairly easily but, FOOSBALL still was the game of choice at that time :embarrassed2:

We all played pool off and on during college but, Foosball was the game of choice that we played for kegs of beer at the time :wink:

Once I got out of college and I started working for a living.....Foosball kinda faded away (late 70's early 80's) and some of my new (older) working buddies liked to play pool while we traveled around the Midwest working.

So, as all things change, I started playing pool more on a weekly basis. I ended up buying a house and, my roommates and I decided we needed to have some recreational games in the basement so, I bought my first pool table, maybe back in 1977.

I had this table for almost 18 or so years and played more frequently in the early days and less frequently before I finally sold it back in 1995.

I started playing pool in leagues around 1993 and a few tourney's up until the time we bought our Bar/Restaurant back in 1996.

Since buying the bar I've found myself involved in the local pool league scene and playing pool more and more. What I've found is.......since I've been getting older I find Pool to be an outlet for me where I can still compete (since I can't really play baseball/football/basketball anymore) plus, I really enjoy the interaction with our friends, family and customers at the same time.

No question folks, my eyes ain't as good as they used to be but......my finesse game has improved dramatically since my early days. The funny thing is that now I'm starting to resemble those older folks I used to enjoy watching play on TV back in the Good Ole Days :grin-square:
 
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iba7467 said:
I am the lucky owner of this case. Sweeeeeeeet!

The name is because I'm easy money and since I like to come in and collect my money after someone else wins a set.

Ronnie Alcano might trade you a case of balut and a night on the wild side for that case. :smile:

I REALLY LIKE YOUR CASE! Come down to Gulfport, MS on Nov 7 & 8th and show us just how easy you are. :grin:

JoeyA
 
LOL...Easiest question ever ...lol... I don't know about that...

I don't know if this is the easiest question I have ever had to answer ... There are many nights I don't even know why I play pool , And then the nights were I'm never gonna play pool again . Then there is the nights were you can't miss and everything comes easy . People look and stare at you and you hear them whisper at how good you are. Nights when you make those three rail or four rail kick shots look routine and nights when you look like a rookie missing a straight in shot 12 inches from the pocket. It is a game no one can master and many have tried. It is a rewarding game and also has taught me almost every aspect of life in my life.

Humility when you lose to someone you should beat all night long ... Patience when your playing the guy that takes one hour to look over a straight in shot . Pride in your game and how well you play it ... Honesty to be able to play the game fair. Compassion when your cheering for the guy who should not have a chance in the world to beat a good player but makes the eight to win and follows it in only to lose a second later or the guy who lost all his money to you and don't know what he is going to tell the wife and kids. There is so much more this game has taught me it has brought me many riches and friends that no money or mansion or expensive automobile could replace. Nights spent sleeping in a car with friends miles from home ... Holidays were you wake up broke and gather what few dollars you have and head to the pool hall and play and walk out with a nice little purse for your effort and the holiday cheer ... Survival in getting out of some of these place once you have won , You learn to love and respect the game when one of your close road friends dies and his family buries him with his cue laying beside him and the next trip out and every trip after it everyone in the car talks about how much Lee would of liked to be right here sweating out all of these matches we are going to hook up with... These are some of the reasons I play and why I choose to step into the arena every chance I get ...

But the main reason I play is because of a older man I met when I was 15 who loved the game. He was a mechanic at a gas station across from our house. One day a mustang pulls in and two women jump out topless, of course my 15 year old raging hormones had to go over and check it out . I spent that day talking to the older man who was in his fifties . That night he took us out to Mcdonalds and then he went to play pool and I saw my first glance of the game I would fall in love with. Rex was the older man's name and he taught me all he knew about pool . I became like a son to him and we would go play every night.My parents were not fond of Rex when they found out he was taking me into bars to play pool. I remember one night my Mom came in and pulled me out of the bar threatening to have Rex locked up . I also remember setting in a biker bar one night and playing and one of the guys walked by and told Rex ... Hey that prospect you got there is starting to play pretty good before you know it he will be beating you... That is when I knew I was learning the game and improving.

We would travel and we had road buddies we would ride with Lee was one of them . Woody was another and Woody was good , real good. I don't know how many nights we spent watching him play and sweating out matches. When I went into the Navy about once a month I would get a letter from Rex telling me about where they went and how well they played and asking if I was finding any action. When I got out I was right back in with the boys and we were on the road again. I remember the night we stopped up in Orange County and played all night . We did good that night and decided to get a room ... That next morning when Rex , Woody and I got up to move on to the next town ... Lee never awoke it seems a blood clot had killed him that night and we all returned home very sad.Lee was burried in Arlington cemetary in Riverside California with full millitary honors. The only blood family he had there was a Uncle who lived with him when he was home. We were his real family and what I guess you could call his imeadiate family. He was burried with his cue by his side it was a sad day and it seemed like every time we hit the road after that someone thought about Lee and how much he would like to be here with us ... Heck he was probably still right there with us. Lee was dead at the age of 41 for many years I feared the year I turned 41 wondering if I would live to see it ??? When it arrived I spent alot of time that year thinking of Lee he was the ladies man in our group . He was a ex-marine and the tough guy that kind of looked out for me the youngest . I remember one night a guy got mouthy and Lee busted a rack of balls with the guys head. Rex was like a father to me , Woody was the one we all relied on to get our money back when we got in over our heads he was our stopper or shortstop. Lee was kind of like my hero and now Lee was gone at the age of 41... It really shook me up and hurt me and as many things do in the world of pool and the lives we live playing this game it has stuck with me all my life.

Rex as I said was like a dad to me and he taught me all he could but experience was my best teacher and it is pathed with many harsh lessons. Lee and I were very close also it took me some time to start to get over his death I was playing very bad and losing and people were talking about my game and that I must be strung out to be playing so poorly and my mind was not in the game at all and I was very frustrated with the game at that point in my life . Thinking is that the way I would die in a hotel room miles from home after spending the night with a bunch of drunks and druggies sweating out bets and playing to get money to eat on. I was about to give it up till one night Rex asked me out to the pool hall to play and talk ... When I went home that night I found a old piece of paper in my cue case and on it Rex had wrote these words...

"It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; Who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at the worst, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

~President Theodore Roosevelt

That piece of paper always seemed to find it's way to me in my worst moments ... When things were going bad on the table ... It always found it's way into my case ... And it always worked to motivate me to get my game back and to continue to play when I wanted to give it up... To me those words sum up why I play pool ... And why I love the game.

I was 28 when I moved to Georgia ... Rex stayed in Southern California with his wife and kids. Woody had moved to L.A. and was still playing strong . I was 30 when I had my son and put my cue up in the closet a fairly new Schon R-11 with dashed rings ... I had struggled for 18 years to raise my son on my own after his mother decided she did not want anything to do with our son he was only 4 months old then and she was not ready to raise kids. When he was 18 he was ready to move out on his own and while cleaning out the closet I came across my old cue and all those memories ... When I opened it there was the old piece of paper Rex had wrote the words to "The Man In The Arena" on ... I knew then seeing my job was done raising my son to at least manhood it was time to return to the pool table and the only real life I have ever felt comforatable with ... Rex and I stayed in touch till his wife died and I have not heard from him since ... I still like to think of him as the Kentucky Hillbilly he was, propped up on a wall in a pool room smilling with cue in hand waiting for his turn to shoot ...

I now have a new crew I run with the names have changed Danny , Wesley , Johnny and Andrew and me ... They mean just as much to me as the first crew did ... We all hit the road together looking for games ... But time has a way of changing things and I'm not the kid anymore ... I'm one of the older players in the group now and the kid is 19 year old Andrew. While traveling the road I listen to Andrew talk with all the enthusiasm of how he is never gonna stop playing the game for anything in this world and how he wants to go pro... And I remember back to the days when I was younger and telling Rex coming back from a Vegas trip almost the same exact words... And I tell Andrew sometimes life just gets in the way of all those pool plans ... I hope you do what makes you happy.

Yep this is pool and this is the cycle that seems to be a part of it and that repeats itself over and over . I'm not alone I have a whole family of pool players stretched across the planet who share very similar tales. I could go on and on and tell everyone stories of some of the nights we spent out on the table , the craziness that went on . The things we accomplished , the closeness we shared but this is already very long and I apologize to you for that. So I'm only touching on a few of them here as all of you know . These tales are my treasure chest that is burried in my mind that I have lived and experienced. You can't get this setting behind a desk filling out forms or punching the clock at 7 in the morning. You may gain financial stability and all that goes with it but you will not have lived life as fully as I have had the chance to ... The way we as pool players have been given this great gift and this beautiful game and all that goes with it the good and the bad.

So you say it is a easy question but I say to you it is not a easy question because when you ask it ... It brings back my life story and all those involved along the way who taught me to play by giving me advise , giving me lessons on the table by taking my money and leaving me broke , all those who's money I took . All of the good times and all the bad times all the friends I have made and all the friends I made that are no longer here. It is a game that gives and a game that takes when you can least afford it too ... Now a days I find myself still very much in love with the game ... I'm passing it on to my son finally and teaching him to play and he is hooked , He has moved back in with me with a wife and kid I'm gone most nights anyway . I don't know if I can give you a direct answer as to why I play but your a player yourself and I'm sure that your story is alot like mine . And between us we both know why we play ... Because there is no other game like it and when you start your hooked playing a game that is impossible to master and can give you the thrill of a lifetime or leave you feeling the worst you ever felt ... Pool is my life it is what I always go back to time and time again just like that old piece of paper that has found it's way into my case on more then one occassion. When I step to that table with cue in hand I know I am the man in the arena .... I know the great enthusiasms ... And I know the great devotions ... I know that if my time comes and I'm in a hotel room miles from home after sweating out the action the night before in a dark bar room and I don't wake up ... That I died happy and like my friend Lee died doing what I loved doing my whole life ... And I know that our place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

That is why I play the game ...
 
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Also thank you for the chance to win one of these cases ... They look very nice and well made this is very generous of you ... Two people in this thread are going to be very happy ...

Thank you ...
 
I play this game for the sheer challenge to the mind that it presents. Every rack and every break presents a unique puzzle. And with each unique layout is an opportunity to solve a run out problem. Of course each game format that can be played presents its own unique style of break layouts. But nonetheless, the created layouts are uniquely their own. And as a player, you have the challenge to solve how to most efficiently play the layout.

In some respects you have the same challenege just as you would in trying to solve the Rubik's Cube. Except at the pool table the challenge is even greater. I know, for I myself solve the Rubik's Cube, and have been doing so for over 25 years, since high school. Just as long as I have also been playing pool.

A Rubik's Cube has a finite set of mixed patterns, and there are multiple solutions to solving the cube. But at a pool table, the number of layout patterns is virtually limitless. Yet it is still possible to break the patterns down on a table to a solvable solution for the best skilled players, a high majority of the time.

When solving a Rubik's Cube, you do so by applying a consistent pattern of solution steps. And once you have applied the solution consistently, and solved the Rubik's Cube more times than you care to remember, you begin to get bored with solving with what becomes a seemingly simple puzzle.

That does not happen in this game of pool. And so the challenge becomes greater. And each time that you solve a layout and run the balls completely and successfully, you have wound up devising a solution that is unique. And the solutions you create each you time you successfully run the balls, while sharing some commone ideas here & there, are all going to be unique in form.

That is a different experience from playing the Rubik's Cube. And so with a greater challenge presented before me each time that I play, I am drawn deeper into the game, the puzzles keep comming, and my committment to playing is continued.

David "Glamour Dave" Nienow
 
Why I love pool (MY CASE)

In CASE you guess I love POOL.
Its not the beuatiful cues or the LEATHER tips.
Its not some CASE study in humanity its fun and sets you FREE. I started young the first LEATHER STRAP I ever felt was cause I cheated at pool (I was 6 years old). Pool teaches you about life and how EXPENSIVE these lessons can be to learn. Pool ITS JUST FUN TO play and TRY to beat other people. FOR instance to play for FREE is not as challenging as playing POOL for money. Pool takes skill not like poker when its luck you have the CASE ace. IF some day I hope we can play pool together. To GET together and talk about pool cases and cues and tell road stories and the LUCKY scores.
One thing is for sure case or no case win or lose I will still be on a table tomorrow.
 
cuz when I moved to florida i found that the golf courses were overpopulated with octagenarians who have one speed - slow, and who observe protocols on the greens you would expect at the U.S. open, even though they don't have a chance of breaking 120. one day while following such a six-some, i decided it might be a good idea to stick a rifle in my golf bag so I could deal with such situations. later, that same day, as i was cleaning the barrel of my 30-06, i had second thoughts, decided to give up golf and take up pool again after not playing for 38 years.
 
I started playing because I got forced by some friends to play in their team. They wanted a girl in the team to distract the opponents.
 
Years ago, in high school and college, I'd bang balls around with friends. As time has passed, the stress of marriage, family, management jobs, mortgages etc. had created the need for a diversionary activity, something that can displace the daily pressures, if only for a while. Racing was cool, but requires a substantial investment in time, and brings its own stresses. Golf was decent, but it's a fair weather and daylight-only activity. Just a few years ago I rediscovered the pool table. Playing the game at anything above banger level requires concentration and focus to the extent of displacing all the other things on your mind at the time. The hall is open nights and weekends all year, fair weather and foul. When you walk in the hall, the rest of the world is on "hold" for awhile. Whether you're playing a few games with an old friend, matching up with a stranger, or just working on your game by youself, it's a way to relax, wind down the day, but still exercise your mind. And, every time you walk back to the car at the session's end, you reflect on a few great shots you made, which motivates you to continue to work on your skills, and brings you back for another try at the table. Most of the general public just doesn't have any interest in the game. Too bad-they don't know what they're missing.
 
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