WNT 2024 Hanoi Open (8-13 Oct), Winner $30K

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28x800 (Top 50 Fargo) players in 256 field including about 50 qualifiers yet to be filled
Strangely, Filler (and also Albin) not playing :oops:cos I do not recall Filler missing any big WNT event in past few years. They both also did not play in ongoing Peri Open.
Other strange thing -This is weaker field than the warm up event Peri Open which has 31x800 players. For some reason, these 800s Alexander Kazakis Dennis Orcollo Mario He Max Lechner Naoyuki Oi playing in Peri Open opted not to play in Hanoi Open :ROFLMAO:

28x800 (Top 50 Fargo) players.
AloysiusYapp
AntonRaga
CarloBiado
ChangYu Lung
DavidAlcaide
DuongQuoc Hoang
EklentKaci
FedorGorst
FranciscoSánchez Ruiz
FuChe Wei
FuJianbo
JamesAranas
JaysonShaw
JefreyRoda
JohannChua
KoPin Yi
KoPing Chung
Lee VannCorteza
MichaelFeliciano
MoritzNeuhausen
PijusLabutis
RolandGarcia
SanjinPehlivanovic
ShaneVan Boening
SkylerWoodward
WiktorZielinski
WuKun Lin
JeffreyIgnacio
 
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dennis is skipping because of heyball obviously. pity because it's become rare to see him play big time american pool

i guess the others could be seen as a very minor win for WPA
 
SA96 said:
If I was Matchroom, I would revoke Filler's invite to the Reyes Cup.
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They are not stupid they will get sued. Matchroom created the bad blood by getting it's cohorts Jayson, SVB, Fedor and Sky trying to shame Filler and Albin on social media.

Had Filler and Albin played in the Hanoi Open, the WPA would have looked more like a clown banning them. However, I think Predator will find a way to get banned players to play in their events, except for the cohorts above who Predator should shun from their events.
 
VVP said:
They are not stupid they will get sued. Matchroom created the bad blood by getting it's cohorts Jayson, SVB, Fedor and Sky trying to shame Filler and Albin on social media.

Had Filler and Albin played in the Hanoi Open, the WPA would have looked more like a clown banning them. However, I think Predator will find a way to get banned players to play in their events, except for the cohorts above who Predator should shun from their events.
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Filler and Albin aren’t being shamed by those mentioned because of Matchroom they are being shamed because they are not standing with them.
 
VVP said:
They are not stupid they will get sued. Matchroom created the bad blood by getting it's cohorts Jayson, SVB, Fedor and Sky trying to shame Filler and Albin on social media.

Had Filler and Albin played in the Hanoi Open, the WPA would have looked more like a clown banning them. However, I think Predator will find a way to get banned players to play in their events, except for the cohorts above who Predator should shun from their events.
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MR have invitational events. They can invite WHO they want. And how The fuck MR IS creating Bad blood when WPA started banning..
 
Pretty freaky stuff here, but one must respect each player's right to make any decision they like regarding participation. Nonetheless, it is not easy to fathom that some traveled halfway round the world to Vietnam to play in the Peri Open but not the Hanoi Open.

No doubt, some on the forum will devalue the accomplishments of the eventual Hanoi Open champion, as the title will have been won in the absence of some of the game's most elite, but they should not, for this is how things work right now in our fragmented sport.

As others on the forum have so often noted, the players remain hostages bound by the dirty politics that surround them, and they have some very tough choices to make.

One day, sponsors, governing bodies, federations and event producers will settle their differences and enable players to maximize the income derived from the sport to which they've dedicated their lives, but it is quite clear that today is not that day.

All of that said, wishing the many fine players who have chosen to play in the Hanoi Open the very best of luck. May the best man win!
 
sjm said:
Nonetheless, it is not easy to fathom that some traveled halfway round the world to Vietnam to play in the Peri Open but not the Hanoi Open.
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🧐 that is weird. i see that peri open has 110k total prize fund, 25k for first, so it's paying decent. but otoh the field is BRUTAL. presumably the peri open is WPA sanctioned? maybe their federations are chipping in for travel but only for the peri open
 
skogstokig said:
🧐 that is weird. i see that peri open has 110k total prize fund, 25k for first, so it's paying decent. but otoh the field is BRUTAL. presumably the peri open is WPA sanctioned? maybe their federations are chipping in for travel but only for the peri open
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The Peri open was sanctioned by the WPA despite the promotor saying he knew nothing about that decision nor did he request it be sanctioned.
 
kling&allen said:
This is unfortunately turning into boxing where we will have different world champions sanctioned by different groups, with constant fighting over which people participate with what organization.
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Except that Matchroom has a contract to run the world championships indefinitely. It will be interesting to see who plays in the next one.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Except that Matchroom has a contract to run the world championships indefinitely. It will be interesting to see who plays in the next one.
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A contract with who? Can you really _own_ a "world championship" title and license it out in the first place? What is actually "owned"? A trademark? Copyright? I've always found it a bit questionable that anyone could "own" that title for any pool game.
 
Badpenguin said:
Can the WPA legally own ???? in the first place? What did the WPA own?
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In the US, an event can be "owned" by an individual or company that continues to run the event. As an example, Matchroom bought the rights to "The US Open Nine Ball Championship" and/or similar wordings, from the Behrman family, and has run it since. I think this falls under trademark law.

Similarly, the title "US Open 14.1 Championships" fell into disuse after the 2000 event and Mark Griffin restarted the event and claimed the title. I think you lose the title to an event if you fail to produce it for five years.

I think this aspect of trademark law is a very good thing. It keeps imposters from stealing the good name from those who built something up.

The WPA has a wider legitimacy due to its organization and connection with other sports organizations, including the IOC. It has run, or arranged to have run, the World Nine Ball Championship every year since 1990 except for one Covid year.
 
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the way that WPA "sanction" WNT events (including ranking events) are not uncommon, it's just a bossy way to say that the players playing in those events will not face bans, even the promotors did not seek sanction from WPA

but the Hanoi Open is different, it is THE EVENT where WPA say the participants will face 6-month bans because the promotor did not seek sanction from WPA

players missing Hanoi Open will still play next WNT events because they will not be banned after playing in those events, so we can look at Hanoi Open like a random event during which the players having commitments elsewhere

you may read Darren Appleton post saying most players planned to play both Peri Open then Hanoi Open, and only withdrew from Hanoi Open a couple days ago
 
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