Women and pool

marissayi said:
We don't want to distract you when we're bent over the table! LOL
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YOW!! Drivermaker, I thought you had everything south of Atlanta covered to control this type of thing. :D
 
ScottR said:
YOW!! Drivermaker, I thought you had everything south of Atlanta covered to control this type of thing. :D
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Eeeeeeeeeeyouchhhhhhhhhh..........Columbus is kinda out of my territory but I might have see what the "business" prospects are down there. Life can get boring at times....I think I'm in need of some distractions. :D
 
landshark77 said:
Not fair! I would have gotten in trouble if I would have said that. :mad:
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LMAO....you're right! However the rule is when you were born with them, it's OK. Here's the deal...we won't perform masectomies (implied) if you women folk don't perform castrations. Fair 'nuff?
 
drivermaker said:
LMAO....you're right! However the rule is when you were born with them, it's OK. Here's the deal...we won't perform masectomies (implied) if you women folk don't perform castrations. Fair 'nuff?
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What with the women making all the money in pool, you might want to rethink this suggestion. You could get on a profitable tour overnight with just a wave of the hand, so to speak. :eek:

Jeff Livingston
 
drivermaker said:
LMAO....you're right! However the rule is when you were born with them, it's OK. Here's the deal...we won't perform masectomies (implied) if you women folk don't perform castrations. Fair 'nuff?
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Ok, fair 'nuff. ;) Now rack 'em. :D
 
drivermaker said:
Well here's something to start your day off with a bang and torque you off even further (me too)...Michelle Wie accepted a sponsor's exemption in the John Deere Classic, the second time this year the 15-year old little twit from Hawaii will play on the PGA Tour. The John Deere Classic is played at the TPC at Deere Run in Silvis, ILL., and will be July 7-10.
That means one less spot available for a regular PGA player that's been working his tail off since childhood to make the big show to feed his family.
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A male amateur who might be given a Sponsors Exemption in some tournament would similarly make " one less spot available for a regular PGA player that's been working his tail off since childhood to make the big show to feed his family". So this begs the question :

Are you against amateurs playing in professional tournaments ?

On another subject, I recall an interview with Chris Everett the tennis superstar. She was asked about the boys vs. girls thing. She was ranked in the top 3 (?) in the world at the time, and her brother was on the mens tour ranked in the high 100's or low 200's (ie, NOT a superstar) IIRC. She said they practice together a fair bit and she would not stand a chance against him in a match. Of course power is a big element in tennis, so it's quite different from pool.

Dave
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drivermaker said:
Can I use your rack? ;)
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You are talking about the triangle, right? :confused: I figured with your racking experience that you had your own...or at least know where to find one! :eek: :eek:
 
Pete said:
I don't know if any of you read Jen Barretta, said about skill level on her board (APA skill level I think), but see said that the top 16 would be SL6-SL7. Now I'm fairly new to the APA, but I would say a SL7 falls far behind what a Pro player is. Not trying to stir the poop any more but if she's right, that answers why the WPBA doesn't allow them (or atleast I think they aren't allowed).

And Oh by the way, I do think that some of the woman can (and some do with men).

Pete
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Do you releasie if Efren Reyes played in the APA he too would be a 7! She was answering a specific question within the perimeters of this handicapped system. Not passing judgement.
 
cuechick said:
Do you releasie if Efren Reyes played in the APA he too would be a 7! She was answering a specific question within the perimeters of this handicapped system. Not passing judgement.
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A 7 is the highest rating in the APA? Doesn't it go higher than that?
 
marissayi said:
Scott, I saw you are in Atlanta. Are you (or anyone else) going to Tommy Kennedy's tournament this weekend at Mr Cues II?
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I was thinking about it. Are you? Playing or watching?
 
LastTwo said:
A 7 is the highest rating in the APA? Doesn't it go higher than that?
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APA 8-ball is rated from 2-7. You might be thinking of APA 9-ball which is rated up to 9. Knowing Jenn, I would say it was fair to assume she was referring to 8-ball.

Regarding Jenn's comment about the top 16, I don't believe she was referring to Karen Corr, Alison Fisher, Jeanette Lee or many of the WPBA's elites. All of whom, if they were men, would still be barred from APA play. It is true that some of the women who play in the WPBA (on skill alone) could fit into the APA handicap structure and some of those women are ranked in the top 16 but that says little about the WPBA or the APA.

In New York City (where Jenn is from), there are very, very few s/l 7's who, if they were women, would be competitive in the WPBA. Jenn might have wanted to illustrate a gap that exists between professional men and professional women but I assure you, there is also a gap between professional women and the typical s/l 7 in the APA.
 
DaveK said:
A male amateur who might be given a Sponsors Exemption in some tournament would similarly make " one less spot available for a regular PGA player that's been working his tail off since childhood to make the big show to feed his family". So this begs the question :

Are you against amateurs playing in professional tournaments ?

Dave
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In all fairness to the pro's...yes. But there's a lot of politics and favors going on behind the scenes with sponsors exemptions. In Michelle Wie's case, she doesn't even have a stellar amateur record yet against her peers and gender.
In no way do I imply that she can't play at a high level though, but last year she got her ass kicked in both the US Amateur event and the Public links by other females. I think the girl needs to grow up normally for a couple more years. They're almost using her as a freak show for their own benefit.

When I lived in South Florida a number of years back, Steve Scott lived a couple of blocks from me and used to hang around my place when I was working on clubs. We played together a good number or times, both while he was in high school and later when he was in college. If you've forgotten who he is, he's the kid that had Tiger Woods way down with only 9 holes to go in the US Amateur right before Tiger turned pro. Well, the Gods of golf shined down on Tiger there, just like this past weekend and Steve was defeated in sudden death in one of the greatest US Am's in history. Tiger made some putts that were 3 counties wide that couldn't be duplicated with 100 balls in a row.

Well after all of that drama on TV and being a home town hero by almost knocking off Tiger, he got a sponsors exemption at the Honda Classic. He also had one hell of a junior record in high school tournaments, national tournaments, as well as in college and for a while was ranked #1 in the nation. I can't say that I was too bummed out about that because it was in his own backyard and a lot of people were out there rooting for him. I don't recall that he got any others in different parts of the country as part of a big drawing card or a freak show.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Jenn might have wanted to illustrate a gap that exists between professional men and professional women but I assure you, there is also a gap between professional women and the typical s/l 7 in the APA.
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From personal experience, I was a 7 in the APA before I quit and I can confirm this. I know I wouldn't have much of a chance against a lot of the women, in a longer race that is. I played Gerda 2 games in San Diego and beat her both games, but I am sure I would have been hard pressed to beat her in a race to 9 or longer. I can play at a high level sometimes but I have a hard time maintaining it...lol. It was cool, however, when Gerda told me that it was fun watching me play...lol.
 
drivermaker said:
In all fairness to the pro's...yes.

They're almost using her as a freak show for their own benefit.
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Thanks for answering that. And I think they are definately using Wei as a freak show for their own benefit. She will turn pro before too long, then we will see how good she can be.

Dave
 
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