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As I mention the other day in a different thread Anheuser Bush the maker of Budweiser, Bud Lite, and other produces spent a lot of money on Super Bowl Advertisements.

I do not know about where you live but he in the Valley of the Sun Anheuser Bush, and their Distributor DO NOT SUPPORT POOL in any way shape or form.
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I am suggesting to every Pool Player in America to BOYCOTT Anheuser Bush products.

If you don't know all the brands Anheuser Bush sells, manufactures, and distributes there is a little hint below.

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Also as part of the Boycott if you see a Anheuser Bush Delivery Driver, Salesman in your travels let them know of the Boycott, and that there is a movement in America by Pool Players to Boycott all the brands Anheuser Bush sells, manufactures, and distributes because Anheuser Bush doesn't support Pool in your area.

I see a lot of Pool Players drinking Anheuser Bush products, and I think we could get Anheuser Bush?s attention if we boycott their product.

I see no reason Anheuser Bush could not give back to Pool, as Pool Players have been giving to Anheuser Bush for years.
 
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This makes absolutely no sense and pretty much is par for the course for your current posts and your posts before you were banned.

So what you propose is to Stop drinking beer made by Anheuser-Busch until they decide to do something for pool in America. Well on the same note, I'm gonna stop drinking, coke, pepsi, redbull as well since pool players consume these too, and they aren't helping pool either. I have seen a lot of pool players wear jeans made by Levis as well, so until Levis decides to starting helping the pool world of America, the us pool players should boycott Levi's jeans.

Seriously, this is absurd. Not supporting something to make them support you? Usually doesn't work that way.

Besides, why Busch? Why not Coors, or Miller or National or any other Major American Brewing company? Why just beer? Sure, San Miguel beer is a sponsor to pool players in the phillipines, but Pool is a lot bigger there then it is here.

Attitudes like that from pool players and they have no reason to ever want to support pool.
 
"Billiard Club network is proud to announce Michelob AmberBock as a series sponsor of Billiard Club television (BCtv) and the U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship Series. AmberBock commercial spots will appear in each weekly program to further enhance its position as the beer of choice for pool players.

"BCn has put together a sharp TV series and we?re happy to extend our overall association with pool by sponsoring this unique program," said Paul Simmons, Michelob Family brand manager. "We look forward to helping the Billiard Club network grow and expanding the distribution of BCtv.""

http://www.insidepool.com/article315.html?POSTNUKESID=ade6644e04b8fdac80eaf7eb01d421f2


"Anheuser-Busch, Inc., today announced Michelob AmberBock, its best-selling specialty beer, will be the "official beer" sponsor of the American Poolplayers Association (APA), the world?s largest pool league, and the American Darters Association (ADA), a national network of amateur dart leagues.

As part of the sponsorships, Michelob AmberBock will gain exposure through 216,000 members of the APA and 8,500 members of the ADA, and will have signage in a combined 9,600 retail accounts nationwide.

"Michelob AmberBock is proud to be the ?official beer? sponsor of two great amateur sports leagues," said Mike Murphy, product manager, Michelob Specialty brands, Anheuser-Busch, Inc. "Our sponsorships give Michelob AmberBock an opportunity to reach active, contemporary consumers playing two of the most popular games in prime retail locations."

The APA and ADA have a combined 750,000 league nights each year throughout the United States. "

http://www.insidepool.com/article122.html?POSTNUKESID=bd81b40c9c8c6bd4548d19a9a3cc22e6

Maybe a little research on your part would be a good thing.............
 
I'm not sure I understand either... A-B is not responsible for organizing a national tour for pool players... You are missing a key element of sponsorship. There has to be something there to sponsor. You are mad at A-B for not "supporting" pool? What, are they just supposed to go to every pool hall in the country and hand out money? That makes no business sense. There is SOOOOOO much more to sponsorship than this.
 
I would take the opposite approach. I think we should go in and let the people at Anheuser-Busch know how many pool players there are, and tell them that with a little support, they there is the possibility that they could get many more customers.

I think that without one professional men's tour, we would have to approach Anheuser-Busch on a regional level, but my opinion is that giving them a potential client base would be much better than boycotting their product.

Mike
 
Jeff said:
"Billiard Club network is proud to announce Michelob AmberBock as a series sponsor of Billiard Club television (BCtv) and the U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship Series. AmberBock commercial spots will appear in each weekly program to further enhance its position as the beer of choice for pool players.

"BCn has put together a sharp TV series and we?re happy to extend our overall association with pool by sponsoring this unique program," said Paul Simmons, Michelob Family brand manager. "We look forward to helping the Billiard Club network grow and expanding the distribution of BCtv.""

http://www.insidepool.com/article315.html?POSTNUKESID=ade6644e04b8fdac80eaf7eb01d421f2


"Anheuser-Busch, Inc., today announced Michelob AmberBock, its best-selling specialty beer, will be the "official beer" sponsor of the American Poolplayers Association (APA), the world?s largest pool league, and the American Darters Association (ADA), a national network of amateur dart leagues.

As part of the sponsorships, Michelob AmberBock will gain exposure through 216,000 members of the APA and 8,500 members of the ADA, and will have signage in a combined 9,600 retail accounts nationwide.

"Michelob AmberBock is proud to be the ?official beer? sponsor of two great amateur sports leagues," said Mike Murphy, product manager, Michelob Specialty brands, Anheuser-Busch, Inc. "Our sponsorships give Michelob AmberBock an opportunity to reach active, contemporary consumers playing two of the most popular games in prime retail locations."

The APA and ADA have a combined 750,000 league nights each year throughout the United States. "

http://www.insidepool.com/article122.html?POSTNUKESID=bd81b40c9c8c6bd4548d19a9a3cc22e6

Maybe a little research on your part would be a good thing.............
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This is a good thing above, and you link statess:

"Breaking News: AmberBock to Sponsor American Poolplayers Association
Posted by: editor on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:19 PM EST







ST. LOUIS (Feb. 10, 2003) ? Anheuser-Busch, Inc., today announced Michelob AmberBock, its best-selling specialty beer, will be the ?official beer? sponsor of the American Poolplayers Association (APA), the world?s largest pool league, and the American Darters Association (ADA), a national network of amateur dart leagues.

As part of the sponsorships, Michelob AmberBock will gain exposure through 216,000 members of the APA and 8,500 members of the ADA, and will have signage in a combined 9,600 retail accounts nationwide.*

?Michelob AmberBock is proud to be the ?official beer? sponsor of two great amateur sports leagues,? said Mike Murphy, product manager, Michelob Specialty brands, Anheuser-Busch, Inc.* ?Our sponsorships give Michelob AmberBock an opportunity to reach active, contemporary consumers playing two of the most popular games in prime retail locations.?

*********** The APA and ADA have a combined 750,000 league nights each year throughout the United States.


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* ********** ?We?re excited to be involved with Anheuser-Busch, o*ne of the top marketers in the world,? said Glenn Remick, president, American Darters Association.* ?Michelob AmberBock?s sponsorship will help bring attention and credibility to our league.?

?Anheuser-Busch is going to be a great partner for the American Poolplayers Association,? said Renee? Poehlman, president, American Poolplayers Association.* ?We have a large membership of active, contemporary adults that should be a good fit for Michelob AmberBock.?

The brand will support its sponsorships of the APA and ADA with point-of-sale materials featuring composite logos for each league.

Michelob AmberBock is an American-style bock beer brewed using a high percentage of imported hops and two-row barley malt for a rich, smooth taste that?s full-bodied but finishes cleanly.*

In addition to Michelob AmberBock (introduced in 1995), the Michelob Specialty Ales & Lagers include Michelob Hefeweizen (introduced in 1995), Michelob Honey Lager (introduced in 1997), Michelob Black & Tan (introduced in 1998), Michelob Marzen (seasonal, introduced in 2001) and Michelob Seasonal All-Malt (seasonal, introduced in 2002).

The APA is generally recognized as the Governing Body of Amateur Pool, having established the official rules, championships, formats and handicap systems for the sport of amateur billiards.* The APA produces three major tournaments each year ? the APA

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National Team Championships, the APA National Singles Championships and the U.S. Amateur Championship-that, together, pay out more than $1 Million in cash and prizes annually.

The American Darters Association (ADA) operates the United States? o*nly national dart league program.* The American Dart League includes traditional English steel tip and Electronic soft tip dart types.* Annually the ADA?s Championship Series offers a National Championship and four Regional Championships.

*********** Michelob Specialty Ales & Lagers are brewed by Anheuser-Busch, Inc., the world?s largest brewer."



Well as I said in my original post above,"I do not know about where you live but he in the Valley of the Sun, Anheuser Bush, and their Distributor DO NOT SUPPORT POOL in any way shape or form. "

Now I will ask a question about the Anheuser Bush Sponsorship to the APA, as I would love to know. What was NUTS, and BOLTS, or Dollar & Cents of the deal.????
 
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lodini said:
I'm not sure I understand either... A-B is not responsible for organizing a national tour for pool players... You are missing a key element of sponsorship. There has to be something there to sponsor. You are mad at A-B for not "supporting" pool? What, are they just supposed to go to every pool hall in the country and hand out money? That makes no business sense. There is SOOOOOO much more to sponsorship than this.
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Have NO BEEF with Anheuser Bush, but they like the rest of corporate American, they all take Pool Players money for products, and services.

Seem to give little back to Pool. I picked Anheuser Bush as there is not a Bar or Pool Room in the Valley of the Sun that doesnt have a Anheuser Bush sign on the wall reminding you to buy their product.

Hell the local Anheuser Bush Distributor seem to get real invcolved with outher groups, and sports in the Valley, but Pooll seems to get ZIP, ZERO, or NADA.
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CocoboloCowboy said:
Have NO BEEF with Anheuser Bush, but they like the rest of corporate American, they all take Pool Players money for products, and services.

Seem to give little back to Pool. I picked Anheuser Bush as there is not a Bar or Pool Room in the Valley of the Sun that doesnt have a Anheuser Bush sign on the wall reminding you to buy their product.

Hell the local Anheuser Bush Distributor seem to get real invcolved with outher groups, and sports in the Valley, but Pooll seems to get ZIP, ZERO, or NADA.
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This isn't something they just decide to do on their own... someone has to present them a proposal with a marketing plan and a dollar amount and a demographic and an expected return on investment. That marketing plan would include signage, logo exposure, promotions, internet advertising, product placement, etc. Someone has to SELL them on the idea!
 
lodini said:
This isn't something they just decide to do on their own... someone has to present them a proposal with a marketing plan and a dollar amount and a demographic and an expected return on investment. That marketing plan would include signage, logo exposure, promotions, internet advertising, product placement, etc. Someone has to SELL them on the idea!
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Your post is 100% on the money, but I still wonder about the APA Deal, and would love to know. What was NUTS, and BOLTS, or Dollar & Cents of the deal.????
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Your post is 100% on the money, but I still wonder about the APA Deal, and would love to know. What was NUTS, and BOLTS, or Dollar & Cents of the deal.????
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Unless you have an inside source at the APA, this kind of information is not usually made public. Sometimes, in really monstrous deals, the sport/company will leak the amount (usually in the form of a "high six figures" or "low seven figures" type of non-descript way). If you do a quick Google search, you can see that AmberBock is spread pretty deep in its sponsorship of APA and its championships, and some other regional tours as well. But finding out the "nuts and bolts, dollar & cents" is not realistic.
 
Pool players themselves are at fault for the lack of sponsorship in pool. How many times do you see local bar tournaments where the host bar adds money to the pot, they get a full house and the pool players show up, although they never show up any other night of the week, hang out all night and drink water or maybe ice tea if they get free refills, take their tournament winnings and walk out the door as soon as it is over? Its very simple, if companies like A-B thought it would be profitable to sponsor pool they would. Its not their fault that pool players are some of the cheapest people on the planet that are usually looking for something for nothing.
 
Well I am wondering how much money is getting down to the prize fund Level in the player pockets if you get my drift. That is my definition of support. The number should be no secret if they are something to be proud of.

Personally until I see Anheuser Bush supporting Pool in the Valley of the Sun I drinking.
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Beer made in Mexico, not distributed by Anheuser Bush with a slice of LIME.
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thebigdog said:
Pool players themselves are at fault for the lack of sponsorship in pool. How many times do you see local bar tournaments where the host bar adds money to the pot, they get a full house and the pool players show up, although they never show up any other night of the week, hang out all night and drink water or maybe ice tea if they get free refills, take their tournament winnings and walk out the door as soon as it is over? Its very simple, if companies like A-B thought it would be profitable to sponsor pool they would. Its not their fault that pool players are some of the cheapest people on the planet that are usually looking for something for nothing.
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Well we don't get FREE Refills in PHX, and the owners do make money on water as it is bottled, tea, and soft drinks. Also many player do drink alcohol like you said.

I never drink alcohol while still in but alway have a beer or two before heading back to the desert.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
As I mention the other day in a different thread Anheuser Bush the maker of Budweiser, Bud Lite, and other produces spent a lot of money on Super Bowl Advertisements.

I do not know about where you live but he in the Valley of the Sun Anheuser Bush, and their Distributor DO NOT SUPPORT POOL in any way shape or form.
angeryonfire.gif


I am suggesting to every Pool Player in America to BOYCOTT Anheuser Bush products.

If you don't know all the brands Anheuser Bush sells, manufactures, and distributes there is a little hint below.

anheuser_busch_beer.jpg


Also as part of the Boycott if you see a Anheuser Bush Delivery Driver, Salesman in your travels let them know of the Boycott, and that there is a movement in America by Pool Players to Boycott all the brands Anheuser Bush sells, manufactures, and distributes because Anheuser Bush doesn't support Pool in your area.

I see a lot of Pool Players drinking Anheuser Bush products, and I think we could get Anheuser Bush?s attention if we boycott their product.

I see no reason Anheuser Bush could not give back to Pool, as Pool Players have been giving to Anheuser Bush for years.
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This is a ridiculous way to go about this. For every person I meet who says they are doing this, I will buy another Budweiser for myself. This will be fun.
 
Jeff said:
Maybe a little research on your part would be a good thing.............
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You are expecting a lot from the COOCOO COW ... next you'll be asking him to think :eek:

Dave
 
Ummmm.... I wonder...do bars/poolrooms get volume discounts?

My hunch is all this would do is put a bar / poolroom out of business long before it had any effect on AB.

I don't think AB has any obligation to promote pool. Thier obligation is to promote beer...(which they do very well already)

It is pools obligation to promote pool not AB....

Randomly calling for a boycott of AB products out of the blue in an attempt to make them basically pay out money of some form smacks of a form of Extortion......(Your not by chance Italian are you???)

Someone from the pool industry presenting an opportunity for AB to invest in would seem like more the American way. ;)
 
easy-e said:
This is a ridiculous way to go about this. For every person I meet who says they are doing this, I will buy another Budweiser for myself. This will be fun.
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Enjoy your Bud, and I miss the one AB product I like, and it cheap.
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lodini said:
I'm not sure I understand either... A-B is not responsible for organizing a national tour for pool players... You are missing a key element of sponsorship. There has to be something there to sponsor. You are mad at A-B for not "supporting" pool? What, are they just supposed to go to every pool hall in the country and hand out money? That makes no business sense. There is SOOOOOO much more to sponsorship than this.
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You are right. It's more than time for the pro players to step up and get organized with a national tour. But no...they keep waiting for that super sugardaddy to come along and do it for them.

One of the problems is they don't trust anyone or a group of players to give them enough power, a little bit of money each to organize and run a tour for them. I don't think they will ever support anyone or any group from scratch. I believe if it ever happens it will be started by one of the well run tours out there now. This is the last I'm writing on this. If they want help from mainstream sponsers they need to help themselves first. Johnnyt
 
Maybe a "REQUEST petition" gathered from the Bars & Pool Rooms across the USA would get some favorable reponse.

A request from hundreds of thousands (maybe a couple million) of Pool Players, to sponsor a Tournament, might be granted. Then we (us Pool Players in America) could send the same request to Frito Lay, Miller Beer, General Motors & so on.

Developing the petition could be done here at AZB. Then our members, in the thousands of towns in America, can print THE PETITION , take it to the local Pool Room or Bar for signing & send it back to a central location.

This project will allow us to work together for a common good.

What say you members....
 
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