wood question

[bubsbug]

I admitted a new home patient today that use to be in the Veneer business. Anyway he has about 20 birdseye veneer cores. These cores are approx 40" long and 12" diameter. Appearently when logs go to veneer places thay are put on a very big machine where the machine cuts the wood (veneers) off as it spins. When the log get to a certain diameter they can no longer cut off veneers, Machine get in the way, thus what he has are those left over logs. I asked if they were Kinlin dried. He didn't remember but he said that those left over logs were at least 20 years old. Will kinlen dried make a difference if they are this old????

I saw them and they were well presevered in the waxy coating. I fiquered that I could probably get mabe 25peices at 1-1/2 x 1-1/2 x 18" long.
He said that he would take $50 a log. He also said that these were exceptional high quality birdseye. What do you guys think? Maybe I'll get one and place some pic here tomorrow!

 

[rhncue]

I admitted a new home patient today that use to be in the Veneer business. Anyway he has about 20 birdseye veneer cores. These cores are approx 40" long and 12" diameter. Appearently when logs go to veneer places thay are put on a very big machine where the machine cuts the wood (veneers) off as it spins. When the log get to a certain diameter they can no longer cut off veneers, Machine get in the way, thus what he has are those left over logs. I asked if they were Kinlin dried. He didn't remember but he said that those left over logs were at least 20 years old. Will kinlen dried make a difference if they are this old????

I saw them and they were well presevered in the waxy coating. I fiquered that I could probably get mabe 25peices at 1-1/2 x 1-1/2 x 18" long.
He said that he would take $50 a log. He also said that these were exceptional high quality birdseye. What do you guys think? Maybe I'll get one and place some pic here tomorrow!

Sounds like a great buy. To answer your first question though, no, veneer logs are not kiln dried but just the opposite, they are soaked in water before being skived. This doesn't hurt anything though as the logs are certainly old enough that they would have dried back out.

Dick

 

[JoeyInCali]

Don't be cheap.
Buy the log. If you get 12 very good ones, you'd have robbed him.

 

[MVPCues]

Sounds like a good find to me. I don't believe you would get 25 usable pieces though give that would include the pith, no? But like Joey said, if you average 10-15 very good squares it is definitely worth it. Offer to buy them all @ $40.


Kelly

 

[Mase]

What do you guys think? Maybe I'll get one and place some pic here tomorrow!

Buy every one that he will sell you!! Don't even think twice about it.

 

[Cue Crazy]

I'd buy It too, but would let the squares cut from it rest well before using, altough that would be same with any squares. There may be a treasure of figure under that wax also. I've seen some birdseye veneers before that were just loaded, and thought at the time how nice It would be to have it in square form.
It could be a really good find, so probably worth the money to see what You can salvage from It.. Greg

 

[rhncue]

I'd buy It too, but would let the squares cut from it rest well before using, altough that would be same with any squares. There may be a treasure of figure under that wax also. I've seen some birdseye veneers before that were just loaded, and thought at the time how nice It would be to have it in square form.
It could be a really good find, so probably worth the money to see what You can salvage from It.. Greg

Veneers is where most figured wood goes. Years ago I was getting my shaft wood from a fellow in northern Wisconsin. He had his own saw mill and kilns plus he had bought a school to use as a shop for all his furniture making equipment. Anyway, he said it was so hard to get good maple to be used in cues and furniture parts because the Japanese were buying the good stuff up at the auctions, loading onto ships on Lake Superior and then cruising down through the great lakes and by the time they got to New York they had already processed all of these logs into veneers where they then unloaded it and sold it. He said the mill people would bid .65 to .75 cents per board foot of raw logs and the Japanese would just say 10.00. He said that unless you were in the veneering business with the set-up they had there was no way to compete with them.

Dick

 

[rhncue]

My area of the universe is not very big in wood processing or furniture making but now that I think about it there is a veneering plant not that far from me. I may make a trip over there one of these days to see what they may have in scrap and cast-offs.

Dick

 

[cueman]

Sounds like you are going to get heart wood, sap wood mix in that center dowel. That would be real ugly. The eyes are usually tight together at the heart, but the heart is not white like the sap wood. Also you may not get grain running across the piece, but acually get the circular grain if it cut right to the middle. Even so if you can live with the color of the heart, you will have something almost no one else has and that is eyes on all four sides. They go out from the middle in all directions and once you cut across the grain it only gives eyes on two sides. So the true heart will give eyes on all sides. If you plan to stain medium to dark brown the heart should work even though the color is bad.

 

[rayjay]

Sounds like the possibility of some pretty unique birdseye! If you get some and cut some squares, I'd like to buy one or ten. PM if you do! Thanks!

 

[bubsbug]

Ok, I showed up to day to do my nursing thing and before I left he told me to grab a log to keep for free. He told me to cut it up to see if I could use it or not so here it is. I did have to get a 3 tooth 5/8 bandsaw blade thoght $35.

Any thought on how to cut it. I thought I would cut it in half first to have less weight and easer working peices. I think I will then rip it righ down the center so I will have a flat surface to work with. From there 1-1/2 inch rip peices.

I took a hand planner to uncover some of the wax and the wood is very white and clean looking with lots of eyes

Here are some pics.

 

[bubsbug]

my camera isn't very good it's a canon power shot G2 but this is what the wood is looking like. It's pretty uniformative all over with the eyes but the wood looks a little more pink than what I got from the U.P. last week. It looks like I will be able to yeild 24 usable peices from each log. Do you guys think that this is ok wood to use??

 

[bubsbug]

sorry wrong pics

 

[bubsbug]

I'll get it right one of these times!

 

[FLYINGSNAIL]

Mustang?????????

I'll get it right one of these times!

IS THAT YOUR MUSTANG??? WHAT YEAR IS THAT CAR? RUNNING OR RETIRED??

 

[bubsbug]

IS THAT YOUR MUSTANG??? WHAT YEAR IS THAT CAR? RUNNING OR RETIRED??

Yes, It is running but needs restored. it's in excellant shape though for a daily driver, just not show quality. It's is very rear as it hasn't been molested. it is completely origional with origional motor and ever genarator. It's a 1964 1/2. I wished I had a place to store it. Im hoping to use it as a father son project in about 6 years!

 

[rhncue]

Yes, It is running but needs restored. it's in excellant shape though for a daily driver, just not show quality. It's is very rear as it hasn't been molested. it is completely origional with origional motor and ever genarator. It's a 1964 1/2. I wished I had a place to store it. Im hoping to use it as a father son project in about 6 years!

The day after I got out of the service I bought a 64 1/2 Mustang convertible. It was red with a white top. It came with a 260 V8 and a three speed floor shift transmission. The top was not powered and had to be put up and down by hand. They made a lot of changes between the 64 1/2 and the 65. Sure wish I never would have got rid of it. That was in 1966.

Dick

 

[elvicash]

I tried to PM you but box is full

I would buy a couple if you could ship to Indy 46259

PM price will pay by PayPal or Money Order

thanks

Dana