Wood vs. Carbon Fiber cue ball squirt (with a twist)

Hi, Dave.

You said the Predator Revo shaft creates much less CB deflection than a typical solid maple shaft, but that has not been my experience in the one or two Revo shafts I have tested. I have another Revo shaft that I will test later today. If possible, I will post a video with the result.

Also, I enjoyed the video you earlier posted and I agree with all those things you listed as being the true advantages of carbon fiber shafts.

Thanks,
Roger
Depending on size, taper, ferrule, etc. some maple shafts deflect less than others. That being said every CF shaft i've test-hit (about seven types) has deflected less(sometimes a lot) than any solid shaft i've had on hand. Some of those were fairly small with short, light ferrules and the cf still deflected less. The 12.9Revo deflected WAY less than just about any cue i'd ever used.
 
Hi, Dave.

You said the Predator Revo shaft creates much less CB deflection than a typical solid maple shaft, but that has not been my experience in the one or two Revo shafts I have tested. I have another Revo shaft that I will test later today. If possible, I will post a video with the result.

"Much less" is a matter of perspective. I probably should have just said "less." I look forward to seeing your video. FYI, in my experience, a good way to test for and quantify differences is the natural pivot length test.

Also, I enjoyed the video you earlier posted and I agree with all those things you listed as being the true advantages of carbon fiber shafts.

I'm glad you liked it.

Best regards,
Dave
 
I remember having a conversation with Earl Strickland some 20+years ago concerning the CueTec cue he was endorsing at the time and he swore by it saying that he had never played with a better cue at any price...shortly after this conversation was when he ran 11 racks with it! I personally could never play with one and have stuck to the wooden cues.

And after he was no longer playing with Cuetec cues he said "they destroyed my game". He also had a highly modified shaft vs their stock one, it was all wood and tapered straight a lot further than a "pro taper" would be. It looked to be the same taper to very close to the joint. I think his break cue was their fiberglass clad one, but his playing ones that I saw were wood not coated.
 
I have to wonder, whether many of the pros who have adopted black/CF shafts are so impressed with them, merely because of the LD characteristics? Many players were likely so very long successful with an old school/premium/exclusive builder solid maple cue they were much attached to, it might well have been their first extensive LD experience (?).
 
I have to wonder, whether many of the pros who have adopted black/CF shafts are so impressed with them, merely because of the LD characteristics? Many players were likely so very long successful with an old school/premium/exclusive builder solid maple cue they were much attached to, it might well have been their first extensive LD experience (?).
Pros are walking billboards for cue/shaft makers. They can play top level with anything. A lot like golf, people go buy what they see pros using.
 
I just received an email from PoolDawg: They're now selling a solid Carbon Fiber shaft. It seems we won't have to guess any more.

... Now check the date.
"The shaft weighs in at about 3lbs so you can expect that nice forward weighted feel and of course a solid hit."

And there's no need to aim, since you won't hit anything with it anyway.

pj
chgo
 
"The shaft weighs in at about 3lbs so you can expect that nice forward weighted feel and of course a solid hit."

And there's no need to aim, since you won't hit anything with it anyway.

pj
chgo
You need a system to make them work.
Every shaft is supplied with a TOC (Tons of Carbon) instructional video
 
I built a robot for testing the amount of deflection in shafts. What I have found in the shafts that I have tested so far is that the wooden LD shafts deflected the cue ball about half the amount of the standard maple 13mm shaft that I use for comparison. However, almost every carbon fiber shaft that I have tested - no matter what diameter or maker - has deflected the cue ball just as much as the solid maple shaft. Only one deflected less, and then it was only slightly less.

My suggestion to the OP is that you might try a carbon fiber shaft that is solid for the first 5-6 inches, and then hollow the rest of the way. I know none of the major manufacturers are making such an animal, but there are a number of small custom builders who offer carbon fiber now, so maybe you could get one of them to make it for you.
Excuse me but I fail to see why one would need to employ a robot or call a device to repeat/simulate delivery ...a robot.

Do you have a video link or picture nevertheless?
 
Lol hey in all reality what I'm about to say is truly or reasonably the best thing or most fitting thing said yet in this thread.

I wrote out in great detail all the answers one needs whether it comes to comrade pyramid and his pursuits of the holy Grail supernatural twist vector stick Patrick saying the stiffness has no say or plays no part of the phenomenon formerly known as deflection and now calls itself squirt 💦💦...

ALL THE ANSWERS I DELIVERED LIKE MOSES COMING DOWN FROM THE MOUNTAIN AND YES TIP DURATION IN TERMS OF TIME AND SPACE BETWEEN A SOFTER TIP AND A HARDER ONE AND IS A LIGHTER STICK A BETTER ENERGY TRANSFER MAGIC WAND OR IS IT A HEAVIER ONE???

EVERY AND ALL QUESTIONS INCLUDING EVERYTHING STAN LEFT OUT OF THE BOOK AND EVEN FURTHER A FEW THINGS REALLY CINCHING HIS SYSTEM UP VACUUM TIGHT THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT OF BUT DESERVES FULL CREDIT.

HECK, I EVEN INCLUDED FREE OF CHARGE IF GOD TRULY EXISTS

WHY SUCH GENEROSITY?

Because like Apollo Creed once said,

"Why?... Because I'm sentimental"

LOL it would have shook up the world I swear and no problem there were no second thoughts as I'm looking at the little post reply icon, never once was there any tomfoolery within me, everything as in doing the Lord's work and for the love of brother.

I push the icon button and the page dims and obviously to make this thin sliver of lighted message impossible to miss and in my case impossible to remember exactly but something about I typed too many letters and what can I say other than all I can say these are the State of affairs these days,

FOR I AM THE PROPHET☝🏻!!!

.... Limited to X amount of written word)

Oh well. 🤷🏿‍♂️

OH.... DON'T WORRY I DELETED IT.

IT'S GONE....GONE. I traded it for a couple of sticks of bubble gum.

Bye have a nice day!🙋🏻🍌💦💦
 
Lol hey in all reality what I'm about to say is truly or reasonably the best thing or most fitting thing said yet in this thread.

I wrote out in great detail all the answers one needs whether it comes to comrade pyramid and his pursuits of the holy Grail supernatural twist vector stick Patrick saying the stiffness has no say or plays no part of the phenomenon formerly known as deflection and now calls itself squirt 💦💦...

ALL THE ANSWERS I DELIVERED LIKE MOSES COMING DOWN FROM THE MOUNTAIN AND YES TIP DURATION IN TERMS OF TIME AND SPACE BETWEEN A SOFTER TIP AND A HARDER ONE AND IS A LIGHTER STICK A BETTER ENERGY TRANSFER MAGIC WAND OR IS IT A HEAVIER ONE???

EVERY AND ALL QUESTIONS INCLUDING EVERYTHING STAN LEFT OUT OF THE BOOK AND EVEN FURTHER A FEW THINGS REALLY CINCHING HIS SYSTEM UP VACUUM TIGHT THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT OF BUT DESERVES FULL CREDIT.

HECK, I EVEN INCLUDED FREE OF CHARGE IF GOD TRULY EXISTS

WHY SUCH GENEROSITY?

Because like Apollo Creed once said,

"Why?... Because I'm sentimental"

LOL it would have shook up the world I swear and no problem there were no second thoughts as I'm looking at the little post reply icon, never once was there any tomfoolery within me, everything as in doing the Lord's work and for the love of brother.

I push the icon button and the page dims and obviously to make this thin sliver of lighted message impossible to miss and in my case impossible to remember exactly but something about I typed too many letters and what can I say other than all I can say these are the State of affairs these days,

FOR I AM THE PROPHET☝🏻!!!

.... Limited to X amount of written word)

Oh well. 🤷🏿‍♂️

OH.... DON'T WORRY I DELETED IT.

IT'S GONE....GONE. I traded it for a couple of sticks of bubble gum.

Bye have a nice day!🙋🏻🍌💦💦
New Year's Eve still happening for you, huh? (y)

pj
chgo
 
basically there are more things than the weight of the last 8 inches of your shaft that determines the cue balls path.
which are harder to judge for than the squirt which is easy to after hitting enough balls.

and that is precisely why there have been so many great players playing with so called old equipment that had almost no issues with squirt..
 
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