Woods from Bali ?

Buddha's Belly

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I gathered some woods that I found interesting from my native land in Bali, just wondering what everybody thinks :)
 

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My guess is l to r 1 unsure, 2 bacote, 3rosewood, 4 bubinga, 5 maple or something similar. Just a guess Chris.
 
Well, no answer from the poster, so I will through out a few guesses.

Number 2 might be a Cordia, but I don't think it would be considered a bocote. The last one might be an exotic boxwood.

3 could be a type of Ibano. 4 some species of Indicus maybe..a Narra. I can't see it beeing a bubinga at all.
 
dunkelcustomcue said:
#2 looks like zircote. I'll take 5 of #3.

Yes. Both ziricote and bocote are Cordia species. I think it is likely it is a Cordia, but it could be a particular species of Cordia that never shows up on the world market.
 
i agree, i would love to see a cue from that #3 blank. nice color variations, really an outstanding piece of wood. is it for sale?

guy
 
I have to agree with Mr. Dunkel. I think #2 is Zircote and i would also like a few pieces of #3.
Owen
 
newo9277 said:
I have to agree with Mr. Dunkel. I think #2 is Zircote and i would also like a few pieces of #3.
Owen

It certainly looks like Ziricote but Ziricot comes from Central an South America. He stated that this wood was from his native Bali. The third one looks like Maccasser Ebony to me.

Dick
 
Hi guys, I have no clue what would this wood called in the US but they are native to Indonesia. 1; Layer wood (when you cut across the grain coloration is verymuch look like layered in 2 colors 2; KAKI wood is my favorite actually, look like spalted but i think is not "rotten", 3 rainbow ebony, 4 Merah ( means Red/crimson) 5 Suar, when the wood is finished the stripes is probably the boldest i ever seen.
Those woods are not for sale, its gift for a friend. But if anybody is interested in any of the wood please PM me and maybe I'll be able to help. At least I could send you the HI res Pics for now.
 
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here the close up on Kaki looks spalted but I'm 90% sure is not is just how the whole species look like. The concistency of this wood is very similar like ebony about 10-15% lighter.
 

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Tricolor wood

my other favorite, this wood is just sick! more than three coloration from purple, orange, pink to dark brown. the top wood is golden teak
 

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That is a gorgeous looking rosewood! (At least it looks like a rosewood) Bali must not be a large exporter of hardwoods. I've not ever heard of any woods available commercially here in the US as coming from there specifically.

Martin
 
Chris Byrne said:
#4 looks like the lighter non curly bubinga. I don't think it is it just looks like it.
That's not bubinga. Bubinga comes from Africa as in African Rosewood.:)
 
Hi,

If I had to put money on my wood knowledge, I would come up with the next answers:

#1 Plantation Mahogany (80% sure) The thing wich makes me doubt is the 'purpleheart' like grain of this square. But is also common in plantation woods. Plantation Mahogany is very reddish when still wet. Straight grained wood ideal for flooring but not very unsuitable for cuewood as it tends to crack rather easily when dried too quickly. Takes a long time to airdry but will deliver exquisite furniture wood.

#2 Ziricote (99% sure). When dried, it will darken a little more. Ideal cue wood. Dick is right when saying that it's provenance is middle and south America, but the British, the Dutch, and the French used to transport a lot on the vaissals on the long journeys in the 1500's 'till the 1800's as ballast and spare wood (even the masts were sometimes replaced by Ziricote when the original would snap during a storm or battle). A lot of the wood was thrown overboard in the Indies back then and some of it started to grow again.

#3 Asian Ebony (99% sure). It is lighter than most ebony species but is more flexible aswell. Many inhabitant use the boards and logs to build bridges. The cut-offs are often used to carve souvenirs. It can be used in cues, but it bonds rather difficultly with epoxies.

#4 Merbau (90% sure). This square is pretty knotty but it is used a lot in Europe as window frame wood or construction wood. When dried, it cracks fairly easy.

#5 Plantation teak (97% sure). This wood grows so quick (more than a foot a day in optimal conditions. some trees are being cut down just after 6 months they have been planted as little shoots) It is very water resistant and won't glue at all. The old growth teak is very heavy, show many growth rings and looks more yellow than the plantation variant.

Tom Penrose
 
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Penrose Cues said:
Hi,

If I had to put money on my wood knowledge, I would come up with the next answers:

#1 Plantation Mahogany (80% sure) The thing wich makes me doubt is the 'purpleheart' like grain of this square. But is also common in plantation woods. Plantation Mahogany is very reddish when still wet. Straight grained wood ideal for flooring but not very unsuitable for cuewood as it tends to crack rather easily when dried too quickly. Takes a long time to airdry but will deliver exquisite furniture wood.

#2 Ziricote (99% sure). When dried, it will darken a little more. Ideal cue wood. Dick is right when saying that it's provenance is middle and south America, but the British, the Dutch, and the French used to transport a lot on the vaissals on the long journeys in the 1500's 'till the 1800's as ballast and spare wood (even the masts were sometimes replaced by Ziricote when the original would snap during a storm or battle). A lot of the wood was thrown overboard in the Indies back then and some of it started to grow again.

#3 Asian Ebony (99% sure). It is lighter than most ebony species but is more flexible aswell. Many inhabitant use the boards and logs to build bridges. The cut-offs are often used to carve souvenirs. It can be used in cues, but it bonds rather difficultly with epoxies.

#4 Merbau (90% sure). This square is pretty knotty but it is used a lot in Europe as window frame wood or construction wood. When dried, it cracks fairly easy.

#5 Plantation teak (97% sure). This wood grows so quick (more than a foot a day in optimal conditions. some trees are being cut down just after 6 months they have been planted as little shoots) It is very water resistant and won't glue at all. The old growth teak is very heavy, show many growth rings and looks more yellow than the plantation variant.

Tom Penrose
Wow Tom,
I'm so impressed with your wood knowledge.
The first one IS NOT mahogany, I'm in LA at the moment if I bring some with me maybe I'll send u some. On no2 I have no clue, have you seen the close up? with cigarette next to it? No 3 DEAD ON! yes they are rainbow ebony, as heavy too. We have probalby 5 variance of ebony in Indonesia. No 4 IS NOT merbau, yes the coloration is similar with WET merbau ( where did you see wet fresly cut merbau around here? that's impressive Tom) the grain is Tighter, PM me your mailing adress I'll mail you liitle strip tmrw!
No 5, Yes Is similar with Teak, its cousin but this is Suar, is nor weather proff(the wax contain is not like teak wich makes them very weather resistant and very hard to glue. The suar is the lightest and the most instable wood from all the lineup. But once its dry the stripes is so bold. Have you seen wild manggo wood?
 
Buddha's Belly said:
Wow Tom,
I'm so impressed with your wood knowledge.
The first one IS NOT mahogany, I'm in LA at the moment if I bring some with me maybe I'll send u some. On no2 I have no clue, have you seen the close up? with cigarette next to it? No 3 DEAD ON! yes they are rainbow ebony, as heavy too. We have probalby 5 variance of ebony in Indonesia. No 4 IS NOT merbau, yes the coloration is similar with WET merbau ( where did you see wet fresly cut merbau around here? that's impressive Tom) the grain is Tighter, PM me your mailing adress I'll mail you liitle strip tmrw!
No 5, Yes Is similar with Teak, its cousin but this is Suar, is nor weather proff(the wax contain is not like teak wich makes them very weather resistant and very hard to glue. The suar is the lightest and the most instable wood from all the lineup. But once its dry the stripes is so bold. Have you seen wild manggo wood?


My wood knowledge isn't that good, but thanks anyway. I know about 500 species out of the 40 000 on this planet. Over 8000 species are to be found in the Indonesian region alone. That's what makes the "quiz" so challenging.

The first one made me doubt already as I told you in the message because of the rougher grain.

The second one is Ziricote...

Third one was a give away...

The fourth square was my best guess, although I noted down already it did have many knots.

The last one tricked me... I really would have believed you if you had told me it was teak. Damn. I hate when I'm wrong about wood...
But thank you so very much for the lesson. I'm not gonna forget that name "Suar". Do you have anymore details about that wood? Like weight, latin name...etc?

I hope to hear from you soon.

Tom Penrose
 
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