Hi Matt, what room did you play in?
World Record High Run 3 Cushion
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Hi Matt, what room did you play in?
3C balls are slightly larger than pool balls. I've always thought that particular bridge is simply more natural when hitting top with those larger balls.
That was beautiful to watch. I love seeing world class billiards even more than top pros running out rotation games or straight pool. Thanks for the link Tom! :thumbup:
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Jay, I May Have Misled You
The 28 points weren't done in consecutive innings........Leon and I probably played dozens of games from opening (11 am) until close to 5pm that day. 9 is my personal high that I set that day......and never again. My best since was 6 back in the mid-90's. Played some back in 2004/6 when there was a billiard table in town and my best then was down to 3. It's a game of diminishing skills as we age for a lot of us. Those high runs were at different times that afternoon in different games.
Never get to play anymore as tables are hard to find in pool halls. The local rumor is one of the pool halls is converting the 5'x10' snooker table back to billiards. It would be great if they did that because it's a more artful form of billiards in my opinion. You get to enjoy or agonize over what analogously speaking amounts to a watching a really long putt you just hit. Sometimes you just know the track is right & others you have to watch & trust there's sufficient CB energy to make the billiard. It's such a frustrating but enjoyable game to play.
The 28 points weren't done in consecutive innings........Leon and I probably played dozens of games from opening (11 am) until close to 5pm that day. 9 is my personal high that I set that day......and never again. My best since was 6 back in the mid-90's. Played some back in 2004/6 when there was a billiard table in town and my best then was down to 3. It's a game of diminishing skills as we age for a lot of us. Those high runs were at different times that afternoon in different games.
Never get to play anymore as tables are hard to find in pool halls. The local rumor is one of the pool halls is converting the 5'x10' snooker table back to billiards. It would be great if they did that because it's a more artful form of billiards in my opinion. You get to enjoy or agonize over what analogously speaking amounts to a watching a really long putt you just hit. Sometimes you just know the track is right & others you have to watch & trust there's sufficient CB energy to make the billiard. It's such a frustrating but enjoyable game to play.
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That was Avelino Rico. Rico trailed Ceulemans 48-35 when he ran out to 50.
At one point against Blomdahl he was trailing by 37-13 so he scored 37 from there while Blomdahl only scored 9. Blomdahl had an "Oh my God, not again" look on his face as Rico made his comeback.
The story is in Bob Byrne's "Advanced Technique in Pool and Billiards".
A wonderful run by Forthomme. He is a great fighter and won one of the Carom Cafe events which is a real workout as it is mostly round-robin. Many of his shots in the run illustrated how you could make the shot "bigger" by adding speed.
Here is run of 21 by Kasidokostas which gives you a different style of play. Notice how softly he shoots nearly all his shots and how he moves the balls to the center of the table where he usually has a choice of three or four different shots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_MTu5i1TU
Kasidokostas has won both the Junior and World championship. His opponent for the run is Dick Jaspers who once made 34 points without a miss in competition, but it was in a 15-point set format so the run was spread across three different sets.
Here is run of 21 by Kasidokostas which gives you a different style of play. Notice how softly he shoots nearly all his shots and how he moves the balls to the center of the table where he usually has a choice of three or four different shots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_MTu5i1TU
Kasidokostas has won both the Junior and World championship. His opponent for the run is Dick Jaspers who once made 34 points without a miss in competition, but it was in a 15-point set format so the run was spread across three different sets.
I personally think he got sharked/distracted on that last shot. I think he tried to shot through it since he was at his forward stroke on the next movement or so. I would pay money to see earls reactions in that situation, especially with that guy making that sound in the background.
Belated Congrats to that man, a somewhat underdog feat from what i understand his ranking is.
Belated Congrats to that man, a somewhat underdog feat from what i understand his ranking is.
Thank you for the back story. Fascinating just making comparisons to pool,equipment bridges,technique and player demeanor.Beautiful game.
Gosh....It Was Down By......
Shayne,
Oh my gosh, I can tell you where back then but can't be sure of the street name. We're going back a long time but I recall it was down by Melody Dodge Dealership when that dealership was in business. I had a "68 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi I bought from that dealership. I could walk to the pool hall which was a short haul away. I think it might have been off Forest Ave or Richmond Road down towards the water.
It was upstairs. almost like the staircase to Ames in the movie, The Hustler......the sole proprietor was old Leon who spoke very softly but with a noticeable Greek accent. I moved from NY to California in Jan. '78 so this was in the 70's back when the Brooklyn Ferry service still operated. The pool tables were 9' Brunswick Gold Crowns (green cloth) except for the Billiard table which was a Brunswick but not a Gold Crown.
The stair case opened up to the front desk where Leon or the employee would sit. The pool tables were all positioned directly in front of the front desk that looked towards the windows of the pool room that was on the 2nd floor. The billiard table was set off to the right corner of the room that had a upside down L shape/configuration to the floor space. Don't know if any of that rings a bell......Staten Island doesn't look anything like it did even 10 years ago, let alone 35 years.
Matt B.
Shayne,
Oh my gosh, I can tell you where back then but can't be sure of the street name. We're going back a long time but I recall it was down by Melody Dodge Dealership when that dealership was in business. I had a "68 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi I bought from that dealership. I could walk to the pool hall which was a short haul away. I think it might have been off Forest Ave or Richmond Road down towards the water.
It was upstairs. almost like the staircase to Ames in the movie, The Hustler......the sole proprietor was old Leon who spoke very softly but with a noticeable Greek accent. I moved from NY to California in Jan. '78 so this was in the 70's back when the Brooklyn Ferry service still operated. The pool tables were 9' Brunswick Gold Crowns (green cloth) except for the Billiard table which was a Brunswick but not a Gold Crown.
The stair case opened up to the front desk where Leon or the employee would sit. The pool tables were all positioned directly in front of the front desk that looked towards the windows of the pool room that was on the 2nd floor. The billiard table was set off to the right corner of the room that had a upside down L shape/configuration to the floor space. Don't know if any of that rings a bell......Staten Island doesn't look anything like it did even 10 years ago, let alone 35 years.
Matt B.
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A good place to start learning is Byrne's New Standard Book of Pool and Billiards. ~40% of the book is dedicated to billiards.
Matt, that would have been Cue Town Billiards. I grew up in that place, The owners Name was George, I think Leon was his dad. Thanks for the memories.
Cue Town Billards,,,Corner of Richmond ave and Richmond Terrace
Leon Segallas was his name,,,George was his son
We called him Leo The Greek
Benny Mcnevich was the house man, a professional bowler and a darn good 3 C player. Sonny was also a house man there.
Sailor Bill Barge would frequent Cue Town
There was Whitey,Mark Cruz,Joe Z, Mikey Nap,Tommy Marcotte,Walter J, George the Greek, Nicky Cool, Ricky the wolf,Parise brothers,BoBO,Arty Belfiore,Old Man Henry Dozier,..and many others.
Many a road player came in there
Many guys in there had high runs in straight pool at 16 years old
Bushkas, Paradise and Palmers were everywhere.
Day and night there were action games, 14.1..9 ball...6 ball...3 ball..cribbage..chicago...one pocket..3C and so on.
All the guys in there played all the games, and played them well
If you could play in cue town you could play anywhere.
It was right out of The Hustler,,, only worse playing conditions x 100
Memories Flood Back
Shayne ....thanks.....and SmoothStroke......you nailed it.
I mostly played there and really became a pretty good billiards player due to Leon. My pals and I also played at Ames located in Times Square area, Amsterdam Billiards when it was still located on NYC's upper Westside and Balabushka's old pool hall in Bay Ridge on 50th St. We took the Bklyn Ferry to get across to Brooklyn from Staten Island.
I started playing pool in 1961 at the age of 15 and my pool teacher was Edwin Penn Santucci.....my step dad......known as "Tooch".....he hustled pool back in the 20's & 30's in NYC's Bowery District during the great depression.
Leon was about the same age as Eddie and maybe that's why we hit it off so well. I was still attending St. John's U. when it had a Brooklyn Campus down on Schermerhorn Street in the early 60's. On the way home, we'd frequently stop at Balabushka's old pool hall on 50th street whenever we took the Brooklyn Ferry to back to S.I.
And back then I played with a Palmer cue.....my first pool cue....went to the factory in New Jersey with my step-dad and picked it out....and I still own that cue.
Matt B.
Matt B.
Thanks for your posts.
Shayne ....thanks.....and SmoothStroke......you nailed it.
I mostly played there and really became a pretty good billiards player due to Leon. My pals and I also played at Ames located in Times Square area, Amsterdam Billiards when it was still located on NYC's upper Westside and Balabushka's old pool hall in Bay Ridge on 50th St. We took the Bklyn Ferry to get across to Brooklyn from Staten Island.
I started playing pool in 1961 at the age of 15 and my pool teacher was Edwin Penn Santucci.....my step dad......known as "Tooch".....he hustled pool back in the 20's & 30's in NYC's Bowery District during the great depression.
Leon was about the same age as Eddie and maybe that's why we hit it off so well. I was still attending St. John's U. when it had a Brooklyn Campus down on Schermerhorn Street in the early 60's. On the way home, we'd frequently stop at Balabushka's old pool hall on 50th street whenever we took the Brooklyn Ferry to back to S.I.
And back then I played with a Palmer cue.....my first pool cue....went to the factory in New Jersey with my step-dad and picked it out....and I still own that cue.
Matt B.
Matt B.
Thanks for your posts.
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Nice story
Petey Margo also opened the Golden Cue on S.I. What a great place, Champs, shortstops galore, action. I would play Danny Gartner daily, and others. I loved the 3 Cushion action there. I was just a kid.
So many beautiful cues around.My friend Dougie playing Slow John push out 9 ball, His $25.00 for a beautiful Bushka. Joey wins the Bushka and John says here, take this too, a palmer, and John paid the ticket.
The days when a house man was a house man.
I'ts a different world, you can smart phone the I.D. of a road player in a few minutes.
People smashing those punching bag things, right next to the table you are playing on,,,and whooping it up. Rap music blasting and 5 people standing between tables. The good old housman has vanished.
Petey Margo also opened the Golden Cue on S.I. What a great place, Champs, shortstops galore, action. I would play Danny Gartner daily, and others. I loved the 3 Cushion action there. I was just a kid.
So many beautiful cues around.My friend Dougie playing Slow John push out 9 ball, His $25.00 for a beautiful Bushka. Joey wins the Bushka and John says here, take this too, a palmer, and John paid the ticket.
The days when a house man was a house man.
I'ts a different world, you can smart phone the I.D. of a road player in a few minutes.
People smashing those punching bag things, right next to the table you are playing on,,,and whooping it up. Rap music blasting and 5 people standing between tables. The good old housman has vanished.
thanks for posting this...:thumbup:
ive been a student of 3c systems for kicking in pool
but have started getting into playing/learning 3 cushion billiards.
This is a very common bridge playing billiards, especially if you play the quieter games like balkline, etc where you may have to get your bridge hand very close to the cue ball. If you notice, most billiard players have shorter bridges than pool players anyway. It also helps regulate how high you hit on the cue ball (i.e. all 4 fingers = very high; 3 fingers = above center; etc.). As another posted the 3C balls are larger so you have to bridge higher than pool at times.
Dave
I appreciate the explanation. I wished we had a billiard table around here so I could give this game a try.