Would this be cheating if added to Cue Shaft

Neil said:
The markings would not be illegal. You can have the Mona Lisa tattooed on your shaft if you want. And, if you tell others what they are for, you are guaranteed to be in constant action.

Please, Please, do not consider trying this. All it will do is take focus away from where it needs to be. If you really need a mark on your cue to know where to hold it, you need to try another sport.

I don't mean to belittle anyone by this, just being honest.
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Looks pretty silly to me.

pj
chgo
 
I don't know, I think I'm going to disagree a little.

I think the patent for this is a little silly, but repectfully I don't know if makings on a pool cue are any sillier than having a little white mark on a golf grip (Ping) Heck, I've got two golfball sized marks on my putter. (Odyssey) Golf balls now come with lines on them for putting. And even in other sports, some bats are marked, and some tennis rackets are marked. Not for everyone but maybe someone can get something out of it?
 
I doubt that you would get any benefit from using these marks on your shaft.

If you learn the fundamentals of pool I assure you that you won't need any aiming markings on your shaft.

James
 
Da Poet said:
I don't know, I think I'm going to disagree a little.

I think the patent for this is a little silly, but repectfully I don't know if makings on a pool cue are any sillier than having a little white mark on a golf grip (Ping) Heck, I've got two golfball sized marks on my putter. (Odyssey) Golf balls now come with lines on them for putting. And even in other sports, some bats are marked, and some tennis rackets are marked. Not for everyone but maybe someone can get something out of it?
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golfers will buy anything that they think will make them better. Be way better off to practice more, and take lessons just like people in billiards.


~now where to I put that weighted driver that is supposed to make me hit the ball a extra 50 yards~
 
Me:
Looks pretty silly to me.
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Da Poet:
I don't know, I think I'm going to disagree a little.

I think the patent for this is a little silly, but repectfully I don't know if makings on a pool cue are any sillier than having a little white mark on a golf grip (Ping) Heck, I've got two golfball sized marks on my putter. (Odyssey) Golf balls now come with lines on them for putting. And even in other sports, some bats are marked, and some tennis rackets are marked. Not for everyone but maybe someone can get something out of it?
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Assuming you're responding to me...

I don't mean any markings would be silly - I've long advocated marking the balance point and pivot point on cues. But the ones on that patent application look pretty silly to me.

pj
chgo
 
I don't know if this is the same thing (too lazy to go look at the patent) but I did meet a gentleman at the BCA who is looking for a manufacturer for his marked shafts. The shafts are marked up in such a way as to allow the player to measure kicks and banks. It works pretty well actually as an aid to the diamond system.

He said that his markings had been approved by the BCA. I don't know if it's true nor do I know what that means for all the other "governing bodies" out there. As a training device however it seemed to me to be something good for getting people used to calculating and seeing the angles.

So don't be surprised if you see me "hyping" these a year or so from now. :-)
 
The only markings I've considered on a shaft are marks 2.25" apart to measure ball clearance. By my read its not against the rules.
 
if you can't place the tip of the cue on the cueball where you intend to... all the sights and scopes in the world won't save you...

and if you can place the tip on the cueball where you want to... then you can start to shoot pool...

aiming is really to simple to need visual aids..

sounds like a marketing gimmick to me...
 
JB Cases said:
I don't know if this is the same thing (too lazy to go look at the patent) but I did meet a gentleman at the BCA who is looking for a manufacturer for his marked shafts. The shafts are marked up in such a way as to allow the player to measure kicks and banks. It works pretty well actually as an aid to the diamond system.

He said that his markings had been approved by the BCA. I don't know if it's true nor do I know what that means for all the other "governing bodies" out there. As a training device however it seemed to me to be something good for getting people used to calculating and seeing the angles.

So don't be surprised if you see me "hyping" these a year or so from now. :-)
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JB Cases - I know Dieckman did put inlay Diamond on some of his Carom shaft to help aid in figure the Diamond system while playing 3C. See the Fourth cue from left.
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Here the 1st Page From the Patent.

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JB Cases: Those are some nice cases at Inside Pool Photo Gallery.
 
I played Joe Tucker a few years ago at a Joss event. He used a long tube for break shots. I thought it should be illegal. He held it in his bridge hand and the cue slid in it. I thought it was something to help him cue straight when using power. I guess it was to make the cue move in his fingers easier. Regardless, it was an aid to help his stroke and I didn't like him using it.
 
After seriously investigating this patent, I am considering having my shaft tatoo'd if it will help me get more action.

I want some of what he was smoking when he came up with this patent.
 
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Jason Robichaud said:
I played Joe Tucker a few years ago at a Joss event. He used a long tube for break shots. I thought it should be illegal. He held it in his bridge hand and the cue slid in it. I thought it was something to help him cue straight when using power. I guess it was to make the cue move in his fingers easier. Regardless, it was an aid to help his stroke and I didn't like him using it.
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and you allowed it to continue because???

20:00 minutes later

I checked both the WPA and BCA rules..and in my short search could find nothing banning such equipment but I know they both do or did prohibit the use of "aids" there exists somewhere a limit to the equipment you are allowed to bring to the table.


which brings up a gripe of mine.. in the process of "simplifying the rules" the powers that be have decided to hide rules...

my opinion all rules pertaining to equipment should be included in the equipment section ESPECIALLY online.. even if its repeating information covered elsewhere..


I simply shouldn't have to memorize the entire rulebook.. to find what I need.... right now...

I'm the TD one guy on a table likes to shoot through a chunk of PVC pipe... by reading the equipment section of both rule books he is legal,... though I am fairly certain he his not..

so I will ask Bob Jewett outright..

I know that you can find the rule that prohibits this behavior... so why isn't it in the equipment section of the rules of any acceptable organization?
 
Tucker's Tube

If Joe Tucker's "tube" was the same one he sometimes uses on video it is just a soft material sleeve that goes over the shaft to serve the same purpose as a glove. If it should be illegal so should gloves and hand powder, they all three serve the same purpose.

Hu




softshot said:
and you allowed it to continue because???

20:00 minutes later

I checked both the WPA and BCA rules..and in my short search could find nothing banning such equipment but I know they both do or did prohibit the use of "aids" there exists somewhere a limit to the equipment you are allowed to bring to the table.


which brings up a gripe of mine.. in the process of "simplifying the rules" the powers that be have decided to hide rules...

my opinion all rules pertaining to equipment should be included in the equipment section ESPECIALLY online.. even if its repeating information covered elsewhere..


I simply shouldn't have to memorize the entire rulebook.. to find what I need.... right now...

I'm the TD one guy on a table likes to shoot through a chunk of PVC pipe... by reading the equipment section of both rule books he is legal,... though I am fairly certain he his not..

so I will ask Bob Jewett outright..

I know that you can find the rule that prohibits this behavior... so why isn't it in the equipment section of the rules of any acceptable organization?
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ShootingArts said:
If Joe Tucker's "tube" was the same one he sometimes uses on video it is just a soft material sleeve that goes over the shaft to serve the same purpose as a glove. If it should be illegal so should gloves and hand powder, they all three serve the same purpose.

Hu
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I agree...

wash your hands with ice cold water... and you don't need powder

or gloves

or any other artificial GIMMIC

just shut up and sink your ball... put the rest of your gear in your tacklebox
 
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a "long" tube would prevent a wiggle and an aid to make your shot straight. it keeps the cue in place. this is beneficial for those who have inconsistent breaks. If I would make an analogy, this would be as close to having a machinegun locked at a fixed angle. it is not merely a question of intended purpose but what other benefits that comes with it's so-called intended use.

the powder and gloves are very much different from the long tube because:

Powder & Gloves: does it smoothens the way you stroke? YES !
does it provide comfort to your bridgehand? YES !
does it assist or contribute to accuracy? NO !
does it secure the cue at a particular shooting position/angle?NO!

Long Tube: does it smoothens the way you stroke? YES !
does it provide comfort to your bridgehand? YES!
does it assist and contribute to accuracy? YES !
does it secure the cue at a particular shooting position/angle? YES!

so basically, this is more of simple architecture and engineering explanation. I dunno but players nowadays are becoming more reliant on modern aid equiptment rather than skill. it eliminates the fun and makes the game more mechanical. I hope that day won't come where players would use a remote in pool.
 
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