Throw the people at your local Walmart an extra $10, don't want them closing do you? What's $10? Thanks for the support.
Would you spend 10 bucks
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Throw the people at your local Walmart an extra $10, don't want them closing do you? What's $10? Thanks for the support.
If I was a regular at the room, I wouldn't be excited to pay, but would still pay the $10 to see this matchup. I go to a lot of concerts and at one time went to many smaller weekly shows. Cover charges were generally anywhere between $5-$10 and I always gladly paid that for a few hours of music. Many times, I didn't even know the band and had just heard they were decent or played the type of music I liked. With this matchup, you know the characters and know they will put on a show. Even if it's over in a few hours, I'm sure you'll get to see top notch play from at least one of the players and that alone would be worth the $10 IMO.
Yeah, that's a great way to run a business.
You not only get to openly discriminate against half your clientele, but you also get to play the "Who arbitrarily qualifies as a regular?" game all night and likely alienate several of the people you are trying to cater to.
Are you planning on telling the "regulars" to keep it a secret that you are playing a mean joke on the people you obviously don't want to ever return, or are you going to post signs letting them know that their business is worth less to you?
Maybe you can give the "regulars" a special T shirt so you can distinguish them from the ones you are openly ripping off?
Better yet, give the T shirts to the people you are jacking. Maybe once they figure out what is going on they can tie them to the end of your house cues, light them on fire, and begin the inevitable riot your "willy nilly" policy has incited and use them to start the blaze responsible for burning your building to the ground.
The silver lining is that maybe you can retire with the insurance pay off, because you're probably not going to be in business very long with crazy ideas like that.*
*I'm obviously ranting for fun, but PLEASE tell me you weren't serious about this?
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This is exactly what is wrong with the pool community. We demand high quality equipment but dont want to pay the price. We whine about a room owner unable to maintain the tables yet we complain about paying $5 an hour for pool. My point is that everyone needs to contribute to the cause which is the sport we love. If we do not support the business we frequent then how can we expect the owner to keep providing high quality equipment when we complain about a $10 cover charge to watch high caliber of pool. my 2 cents
Just to play devil's advocate, when a pool table needs to be recovered it means that table has made the pool room many many times the cost to cover it.
I can't be completely responsible for a room owner who can't manage their money and lets everything go to hell then cries poor mouth. I am happy to pay a reasonable price to play pool but that is the end of my responsibility.
I don't honestly owe them anything, not even my patronage that has to be earned by them.
To be fair , there are players who just like to play the game but not watch. I know very good players who have no clue or know most of the best players in world
Having said that just cos one does not like to watch 2 top players play does not mean that one should expect free entry. If the pool ball has special event and charges cover charge , don't go -why insist that regulars go in free.
i've concluded that the owner made the right decision to promote PRO pool. everyone's biotching - so he's got chatter. entry is free, so everyone new & old will attend. everyone will spend $$$ for table time, drinks, & food. BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!
and those who don't (didn't) care, might....just might....become involved with their unknown PROs.
that "$10 to eat", goes both ways. if the owner gets his customers hooked, then he can charge the next time & people would probably pay $10. (if it's promoted well by all involved - and that includes the PROs.)
and those who don't (didn't) care, might....just might....become involved with their unknown PROs.
that "$10 to eat", goes both ways. if the owner gets his customers hooked, then he can charge the next time & people would probably pay $10. (if it's promoted well by all involved - and that includes the PROs.)
Absolutely
Absolutely correct, time to find a different demographic for this business.
Absolutely correct, time to find a different demographic for this business.
I don't recall seeing anyone at walmart that I thought was worth 10 bux just to see them shop
Please explain to me what the difference would be to a bar you frequent charging a cover charge for a band or dj and this. Stop being cheap and pay a lousy $10 to see two great players pay and help keep your local pool hall in business. Something that's very rare these days
The "bar" that I frequent, is a taproom with over 50 taps. If they are charging a cover, I'll go to the brewery's taproom down the street, and if that one is closed/has a cover, I'll go to the next taproom. We have plenty taprooms around here.
If the pool hall I frequent, which has a bar, is somewhere I go when I want to play pool. If you haven't realized that I don't care to see two professionals play, then you need to read through this thread. I go to a pool hall to play pool. I will never pay a cover to go play pool. Although, it's not exactly easy to go down the street to another pool hall, because we don't have one, but I don't mind driving 30 minutes to the next pool hall and giving them my business for the night.
The problem with all you saying that myself, and like-minded people, are cheap, is that we are the complete opposite. I'll spend my money if I am satisfied with the service. If a pool hall wants to charge me $10 to enter the building, for whatever reason, I'm going to another pool hall. In this particular instance, the $10 is to watch two professionals play, which I really don't care for. It's not uncommon if I spend $50 in food/drinks on a typical league night. That doesn't even count the quarters I'm dumping into a barbox.
The local hall won't close, because I decided to skip one night. Sure, they will have lost a significant amount of money from one person, but it won't put them under.
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This may be off topic, but it goes along with the OP's question.
Most places that offer exhibitions and charge for them, don't provide comfortable viewing room. Buffalo's & Lacey's at least set up chairs in a sectioned area, but most places charge you and tell you "Good Luck!"
I would spend 10 buck for sure if I wanted to watch the match and I probably would so you get my cash.
BUT on the other hand
I would not care to pay 10 bucks to get into the poolroom I frequent often if I was a tightwad pool player, just would not like it if they charged at the door. Maybe I am not going to watch the match just want to play pool. Many bangers do not care or even know who Scott Frost or Alex P and do not want to watch a 1P match.
So if you want to attract a crowd and charge a gate then get a venue and have the only thing going on at that venue be your pool match then no one will have a beef. So if you have it at a pool room shut down all the other tables and bring in some seating maybbe move all the other tables out, maybe have elevated bleachers whatever make it be an actual event. Sell advertising to other businesses. The match is the event. Have vendors selling Alex and Frost shirts and hat and stickers. Have an autograph session. Get it talked about on local TV. When you do that then you have a reason for a gate until then you are just taking over a pool room and pushing out the locals if they don't kick in the gate money.
BUT on the other hand
I would not care to pay 10 bucks to get into the poolroom I frequent often if I was a tightwad pool player, just would not like it if they charged at the door. Maybe I am not going to watch the match just want to play pool. Many bangers do not care or even know who Scott Frost or Alex P and do not want to watch a 1P match.
So if you want to attract a crowd and charge a gate then get a venue and have the only thing going on at that venue be your pool match then no one will have a beef. So if you have it at a pool room shut down all the other tables and bring in some seating maybbe move all the other tables out, maybe have elevated bleachers whatever make it be an actual event. Sell advertising to other businesses. The match is the event. Have vendors selling Alex and Frost shirts and hat and stickers. Have an autograph session. Get it talked about on local TV. When you do that then you have a reason for a gate until then you are just taking over a pool room and pushing out the locals if they don't kick in the gate money.
Boy are you correct! I can not imagine someone expecting to watch an event of this caliber for free simply because they frequent an establishment. Years ago, in CT., our country club was closed for play to members for a weekend due to a celebrity tournament. I could not play that weekend but so what? It was a great event, good for the club. $10 bucks to see Scott and alex play? Come on...this has to be the same guys that were in the thread complaining about no free coffee and water? No wonder pool halls are drying up. You can not cater a successful business to this mentality.
I think the point here is ... How much are they supposed to be paying for things they don't want?
The original statement was "I personally would have happily paid to see this if it were close enough." What do you guys think.
I would happily pay to see this as well .... If I cared to see it at all, that is.
I agreed with Dave, so I guess according to some idiots, I'm a nit too. So be it, I take it in context from those who don't have the brains to understand the reasoning.
If I were interested in watching a professional match, I'd gladly pay, probably more than 10 dollars. But there would be requirements for me.
First, I'd need to be paying for a seat that I could comfortably see the match from.
Secondly, If I got up to take a piss, I'd want that seat to be there when I returned.
I'm in my 60s, and it will be a cold day in hell when I stand 2 or 3 rows back for hours to watch a pool match.
Now, clarifying the scenario the OP is referring to, he said the 10 dollars, would be collected "at the door". To me this implies, there would be no reserved seating, you may have to stand shoulder to shoulder trying to catch a glimpse of the match, and you'd be lucky to have a wall to lean against.
And all this is assuming you cared to watch the damned thing.
I owned a pool room with a full bar and 18 Gold Crowns. If I were going to charge a cover for an event, you can bet there would be proper accommodations for those who paid and it would be in an area separated from the rest of the tables. No one coming in to merely play some pool would ridiculously be required to pay an extra 10 dollars for something they didn't come to see.
I wouldn't be whoring 10 dollars or any amount from everyone who walked in the door whether they wanted to see the match or not. If I needed that 10 dollars, that bad, for that match, on that night, and it wasn't an organized seating arrangement, and I couldn't provide an area to comfortably sit and view the match, maybe they shouldn't be open for business that night to begin with. Maybe they should post a sign advertising the match and open the room only to those who gave a rat's ass to see it.
Now, on the other hand, the suggestion of making EVERY night a 10 dollar cover that would be applied to anything in the pool room is a fine concept. That would help keep out the bums and trouble makers. We did it better, I think, we collected driver licenses or state I.D.s at the counter. No I.D.? Pound sand.
But not a cheap shot at blindsiding everyone who walks in the door only on this night and only because you don't have the means to set up a suitable separate viewing area for those interested in watching.
And the horse shit about helping to keep your local room open. This self righteous crap is nothing more than that. You want to help keep these rooms open, you better start donating a few thousand a month, not a couple of hundred bucks from a few extra people who are causing the air conditioning to run longer. Give me a break.
So....lemme get this straight. ...
the regulars, who frequent this poolhall and the out of towners are whining and *****in about $10 friggin dollars?
Cmon !!!!!!
$10 dollars to watch 2 of thee best 1 pocket players in the world.....
thee absolute definition of the word Nit !!!!!!!
the regulars, who frequent this poolhall and the out of towners are whining and *****in about $10 friggin dollars?
Cmon !!!!!!
$10 dollars to watch 2 of thee best 1 pocket players in the world.....
thee absolute definition of the word Nit !!!!!!!
Oh hell yes!
Would I love to see those two play in person, sure I would, and $10 wouldn't bother me.
Unless I had to try and watch standing around with a bunch of people, crowded around one table. I'm not into the crowd crush, I stopped that years ago. I want to sit and I want to see what I paid for. Doesn't have to be more than a folding chair, but at least something.
Most pool rooms aren't set up to accommodate a lot of people watching one match.
Again, the $10 isn't the thing, but I do want what I paid for. Just to be able to say I was in the room isn't worth $10, at least to me. I'd far rather pay a streamer and sit at home.
That is a very good observation, and it is a good observation to add to my point. I will gladly avoid the pool hall charging a nominal fee at the door, regardless of price, for the same reasons listed below.
Lacey's Cue, in Chalmette, LA, is quite the drive for me, but if I knew every hall around was having some sort of cover charge for something I'm not interested in, I'd happily avoid them and go to Lacey's. Buffalo's is a short drive for me, but I happily avoided the One Pocket event, because I didn't care to see it, so I went to another local hall and enjoyed playing some straight pool with a college buddy of mine. According to some of the people here, I'm a nit, because I didn't support the event.
I may not be 60 years old, just yet, but I agree with everything above.
Whining about $10? Absolutely not.
We are simply debating the principle of the matter.
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Phil,
Remember this is a local pool room first. The headline match is a great draw for the internet and a few locals and visitors. Most people walking in the door are entering to play pool not watch Alex and Scott. The fact the great majority of players who can not name the top pro's might be aghast at being asked to pay to watch two people they never heard of. The ten dollars is really immaterial. We love one pocket. The average player might be bored out their mind. They've been brought up to make balls, not miss them intentionally. If they don't play chess, oh well. My suggestion to charge a modest fee at the door with "free" perks nearly equal to the door charge is a viable alternative.
Another point lost here is Good Timez is a new pool room. Less than a year old. There is no long time loyal player base. Perhaps a few players migrated over from Best Billiards. Most are regulars at the LV Cue Club, Mickey's or Pool Sharks. Unless my memory is really gone, GT is a non-smoking pool room. Only one in Vegas. A week from now, all might be forgotten. Perhaps not.
Lyn