WPA wrong ball pocketed

vincett

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May I know if you pocketed the wrong balls instead of your own OB, you accidentally pocketed the opponent OB. Is it a Ball in hand for the opponent or is it continue playing ? Thank you
 
May I know if you pocketed the wrong balls instead of your own OB, you accidentally pocketed the opponent OB. Is it a Ball in hand for the opponent or is it continue playing ? Thank you
Did you hit your own first? If you hit your own first then it's just loss of turn for you and opponent continues on. No foul.
 
May I know if you pocketed the wrong balls instead of your own OB, you accidentally pocketed the opponent OB. Is it a Ball in hand for the opponent or is it continue playing ? Thank you
Pocketing an opponent's ball is not a foul. It is irrelevant to whether you continue or not.

I think in at least some forms of English 8 ball, it is a foul to pocket an opponent's ball, but that's not WPA 8 ball.

The WPA rules are here:

 
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Pocketing an opponent's ball is not a foul. It is irrelevant to whether you continue or not.

I think in at least some forms of English 8 ball, it is a foul to pocket an opponent's ball, but that's not WPA 8 ball.

The WPA rules are here:

Thank you! I got a bit confused as it states, it is a standard fault when you pocket a wrong OB. Also another rule states that any faults is BIH
 
The only rule close to BIH is when you play 10 ball and pocket the wrong ball without making your called one. Then your opponent can choose to shoot or have you shoot. Every other game it’s ok as long as you hit your ball first.

Watch out when playing 8 ball in America. When people say BCA rules. Make sure which ones they are talking about. Some people play BIH when you scratch on the break instead of the correct way which is in the kitchen.😉
 
... as it states, it is a standard fault when you pocket a wrong OB. ...
There is no term "fault" in the WPA rules that I know of. I assume you mean foul.

Can you tell me which rule in the WPA rules states that it is a foul to pocket the wrong OB at 8 ball? Of course if you pocket the 8 ball early, it is loss of game.
 
There is no term "fault" in the WPA rules that I know of. I assume you mean foul.

Can you tell me which rule in the WPA rules states that it is a foul to pocket the wrong OB at 8 ball? Of course if you pocket the 8 ball early, it is loss of game.
5.13 standard fouls
 
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Hitting my ball to pocket an opponent's ball is a strategy I often employ in 8 ball. Control of the foot pockets is a defensive strategy. On one occasion I pocketed 3 of my opponent's balls. One at a time. He would block a pocket and I would remove it and try to replace it with mine. 🤷‍♂️
Advanced safety play involves the reposition of trouble balls.
I once held off Rafael Martinez for 25 minutes playing 8 ball, on a 7 foot Valley. 🤷‍♂️
 
Everyting.
You have no concept of everything.
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Thank you! I got a bit confused as it states, it is a standard fault when you pocket a wrong OB. Also another rule states that any faults is BIH

What game and ruleset are you talking about? Can't just assume everyone is talking about the same game since there dozens of cue sport variants. In normal Americal rules pool games, it is not a foul to pocket a wrong ball, it is a foul to first contact the wrong ball. I think maybe in blackball or english 8 ball there is some ruleset where pocking the opponent's ball is a foul.
 
8 ball there is some ruleset where pocking the opponent's ball is a foul.
My first experience with that came at the Fort McMurray work camp in Canada.
I thought it was a Canadian thing....A!?
Giving up ball in hand after what I thought was a great shot was a shock. 😉
 
What game and ruleset are you talking about? ...
I think we have figured out he is talking about black ball, which has a WPA rule set. That was formerly called English eight ball.

Unfortunately for him, almost no one here talks about or even knows about black ball.

And to complicate further, I think there are at least two other official rule sets for the English game from two organizations in the UK.
 
My first experience with that came at the Fort McMurray work camp in Canada.
I thought it was a Canadian thing....A!?
Giving up ball in hand after what I thought was a great shot was a shock. 😉
Not a Canadian thing for 8 ball that I know of .
 
The only rule close to BIH is when you play 10 ball and pocket the wrong ball without making your called one. Then your opponent can choose to shoot or have you shoot. Every other game it’s ok as long as you hit your ball first.

Watch out when playing 8 ball in America. When people say BCA rules. Make sure which ones they are talking about. Some people play BIH when you scratch on the break instead of the correct way which is in the kitchen.😉
The only organization that I have seen so far that play BIH in kitchen is ACS and that is only on the break, BIH anywhere in all other situations.
 
Thank you! I got a bit confused as it states, it is a standard fault when you pocket a wrong OB. Also another rule states that any faults is BIH
Bizarre rule.
If you pot your ball and also your opponent ball in same shot, it is NOT foul (i.e. combo :LOL:)
If you hit your ball (did not pot it) but pot your opponent ball, it is foul (not loss of turn)

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Silly bureaucrats politicos at WPA and the other English 8B associations will not unify and instead mess things up with their different sets of rules
Their mantra is If you cannot join them, confuse them
 
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