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Snorks

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Can anyone explain the proper roll of the wrist? Just recently, I have seemed to 'throw' the cue a bit more then normal. My wrist used to be quiet, and now it appears to be more active. Can someone help out on what you do, or what you think is correct.. I guess, is there anything that is correct?

Thanks,
Mike
 
Snorks said:
Can anyone explain the proper roll of the wrist? Just recently, I have seemed to 'throw' the cue a bit more then normal. My wrist used to be quiet, and now it appears to be more active. Can someone help out on what you do, or what you think is correct.. I guess, is there anything that is correct?

Thanks,
Mike
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Ummm, if I recall correctly, there's this very analytical dude roaming these parts... His name eludes me but he has this avatar of an arthropod working on satisfying a hot female. Ask him - he's got a wealth of input and he can throw the cue with the best of 'em. :wink: Spider Web Dave!

Seriously though, good question Mike. This could be a long thread with many fact based opinions.
 
Snorks said:
Can anyone explain the proper roll of the wrist? Just recently, I have seemed to 'throw' the cue a bit more then normal. My wrist used to be quiet, and now it appears to be more active. Can someone help out on what you do, or what you think is correct.. I guess, is there anything that is correct?

Thanks,
Mike
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:ok: Smooth, comfortable, and consistent. My wrist has been taken apart, partially removed and put together with a spider plate so all the bones that are left are hooked together. I had to redevelop my stroke, and the aforementioned things apply to your good wrist as well as my bad one. If it works and acomplishes the job, it is correct. JMHO
Hit em straight and learn how to use back hand english. It's a trip.
Peace, Purdman :)
 
Snorks said:
Can anyone explain the proper roll of the wrist? Just recently, I have seemed to 'throw' the cue a bit more then normal. My wrist used to be quiet, and now it appears to be more active. Can someone help out on what you do, or what you think is correct.. I guess, is there anything that is correct?

Thanks,
Mike
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Having a loose wrist allows you to get a little extra cue speed without moving your whole forearm faster, but only if your wrist moves naturally in line with the shot. You have to find a grip that promotes that, maybe a loose three-finger grip (thumb and first two or middle two fingers).

pj
chgo
 
As long as your wrist is not cocked inward or outward to an extreme or otherwise in an uncomfortable position, you should forget about it. Your stroke should not come from your wrist, it should come from the movement of your forearm, and if you have a loose, controlled grip on the cue anything your wrist does should be fine.


I once asked Burt Kinister about the wrist, and he suggested to make sure things are in line, to have your thumb in line with the jutting bone of your wrist. But honestly, if you are stroking correctly your wrist should not be the focus of your fundamentals.
 
All of the top players have a fluid wrist. It's almost hard to describe the action--- it's like describing how water flows.

Even the pros who do not release the cue in any way, their wrist is dynamic.

I'm not an expert - I can only speak about how I learned it-- and execute a throw stroke.

I stroke the cue back in "one piece" -- not too dissimilar from how you pull back a club while playing golf (wrist is in a static position - same as pre-stroke). At the pinnacle of the stroke my wrist joint begins the forward motion, almost dragging my hand behind it. Once I have the sensation that my hand is moving, I snap my hand ahead of the wrist in one quick motion---- I release the cue at the pinnacle of this movement.

As the cue is released, I continue my hand motion beyond perpendicular (to the table) and bring it up to my chest to ensure it's completely out of the way.

You know how well you hit the CB from the vibration/feedback received through your bridge hand. The release point, when timed properly through practice, is milliseconds before hitting the cue ball. It's really a game to see how close to the cue ball you can release before hitting it.

When performed properly, you get the same feedback, sweet-spot satisfaction as pounding a 300 yard drive... it's the same sweet feeling. Hard to explain. It's a certain harmonic you look for. I know that's cryptic, but you have to practice this for a while before you really understand what I'm saying. I hope this helps.

Dave

P.S.

PJ makes a good point about how the wrist translates to cue speed vs. effort. I use my middle two fingers and my thumb. When I throw the cue, my wrist is cocked SLIGHTLY outward to ensure it doesn't roll off my fingers.
 
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halhoule said:
There is no roll, where do you get these ideas ???
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That's what I said, Hal. Make sure there's no roll. Someone had mentioned that in an earlier thread. I was just repeating that there wasn't.
 
Not sure what level your at but i have tried this with a few people that have asked me about getting a straighter stroke. Try squeezing with your ring finger when holding the cue. Your wrist will naturally swing forward as you apply pressure. I use it when i start to feel my stroke getting out of line. Will get you some snap in your stroke if you practice it.
 
your wrist should not be the focus of your fundamentals.
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Who said anything about making it "the focus of your fundmentals"? Wrist movement is an important part of your fundamentals, and giving it some thought and effort is a good thing.

pj
chgo
 
Snorks said:
Can anyone explain the proper roll of the wrist? ...
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I assume you mean "role" which in this context means function. Is that correct?
 
SpiderWebComm said:
All of the top players have a fluid wrist. It's almost hard to describe the action--- it's like describing how water flows.
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True. This was also being taught to me by a pro-turned-instructor who used be in the circle of our local Pro's (efren, busta, etc). He said that it pays a lot to develop a fluid wrist: imagine how much more power you can deliver with extra 3-9nches of swing space from the wrist's swing alone. The tendency to commit error (like by swaying away from the pendulum path) is also decreased as you don't have to move the ARM farther backwards. This has benefited me a lot since I used to swing my arm,with a fixed wrist, about a foot backwards just to deliver medium-fast speed. Now, I only have to swing my arm back in less than 3 inches + a snappy (but not muscled) wrist to produce the same speed.

I think you should be happy that your wrist is becoming more active as this may mean that you are starting to have a more relaxed stroke (from arm to wrist) as the result of a pendulum swing.

Speaking of rolling the wrist, there's this very advance technique wherein you can roll your wrist upon tip impact. I can't remember what effect it has on the cb, and when it can be used. I'll try to ask again this former Pro about it :rolleyes:
 
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