WWYD 14.1 after break shot?

Poolmanis said:
My high run is only 154 that was small gambling match. I don't play often because no one except one guy want to play 14.1 vs me here. Sometimes i can go half year without even practice it. Sometimes i get inspired and practice it a lot couple weeks. It seems i cant keep focus long time unless i got pressure or bet. I think 30+ 100+ runs.
Last year summer i did more it and was able to run 100+ 5 days in row.
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That’s about what I figured. Other than 14.1, is 9-ball your main game or one pocket?
 
I play anything. Probably best is now 8-ball even i dont play it often. Mostly people play here 9- and 10-ball. One pocket is unknown game here really. If i play 8-ball more i seem to be running 6-9 packs quite often. Also Finnish Kaisa Billiards probably my strongest game from not pool games. I sometimes compete on it and still have 100% (about 10x open and ranking events and one finnish champs)win rate on finals. I just won 3rd time row Club Champs and we have bunch of Finnish champs on club. Also GOAT of Finnish Kaisa is in our club and I seem to have okay record when gambling vs him. :)
 
Cezar Morales said:
Couldnt understand the logic or physics of the shot.
Do you mind explaining ?
How did the 2 roll backwards
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If you put a GoPro on your head and offered the same views of the table as you could see it, I bet a handful of posters would have seen the 2 ball., even the non 14.1 players.
Straight Pool is a game of walking around the table and constantly viewing from all angles not from one fixed position as the camera is set.
When there is a dead shot in the rack and you have no shot, or a shot to play a dead ball and open the rack, you do what you have to. It's not uncommon to play off a rail into the stack for a dead ball .
Maybe next time show all the angles.
Good shot.
 
SmoothStroke said:
If you put a GoPro on your head and offered the same views of the table as you could see it, I bet a handful of posters would have seen the 2 ball., even the non 14.1 players.
Straight Pool is a game of walking around the table and constantly viewing from all angles not from one fixed position as the camera is set.
When there is a dead shot in the rack and you have no shot, or a shot to play a dead ball and open the rack, you do what you have to. It's not uncommon to play off a rail into the stack for a dead ball .
Maybe next time show all the angles.
Good shot.
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Poolmanis said:
I was 95% of sure to making a shot. 5% uncertain came if something comes to disturb to 2 while it is slowly coming back. I don´t like to shoot under 90% shots even in practice unless I am curious what happening.
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Olen täysin samaa mieltä tästä riskistä, Poolmanis. As you'll already know, the great majority of wrap-around shots are configured in such a way that -- more often than not -- the pocket-able OB unavoidably travels far slower than any of the scattering ones, no matter how hard the lead OB is impacted. Jackie Gleason's classically beautiful wrap-around (set up for him by filming-advisor, Mosconi) in "The Hustler" behaved like that.

Arnaldo
 
I would have slow rolled the CB with right hand spin barely nudging the 2 into the stack with CB coming off far short rail and coming to rest closer to side pocket on long rail on right hand side blocking the combo into corner
 
SmoothStroke said:
If you put a GoPro on your head and offered the same views of the table as you could see it, I bet a handful of posters would have seen the 2 ball., even the non 14.1 players.
Straight Pool is a game of walking around the table and constantly viewing from all angles not from one fixed position as the camera is set.
When there is a dead shot in the rack and you have no shot, or a shot to play a dead ball and open the rack, you do what you have to. It's not uncommon to play off a rail into the stack for a dead ball .
Maybe next time show all the angles.
Good shot.
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Thank you for explaining!
i dont play straight pool so this shot is smth really really new to me.
Still amazed how the cue ball is moving forward to sent the object ball moving backwards.
 
Poolmanis said:
there is trick shot that is called U-turn shot. this have same principle. basically it is just 4 ball combo 3rd ball hit 2 ball thin and cut it to pocket. That why i had to hit it hard. Those shots are easier to find after you seen them done by others. Then you can always think if there is something back to that pocket. If you have not seen shot like that it is hard to find because you wont be searching for it.
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Thank you sir.
6-9 pack in 8 ball is so much harder than in 9 ball when you have to think n open up the cluster problem balls.
Great shot btw !
 
Poolmanis said:
Okay. This layout came out after long time i shot some 14.1 in practice table.. After first break i get this mess and did not want to give up so easily.
What offensive shot you would try here? View attachment 597421View attachment 597536
Edit : added also WWYD part 2 pic on this post
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2nd picture. Here in the Midwest, we fire that 10 ball straight back and if you make it you are in a great position to cut the 13 and break out the pack.
 
sjm said:
Other than the run through shot onto the three, it looks like the two may be wired if you kick at the eleven here. Another possible shot is to draw off the six ball to carom the five into the corner. You could also try to carom the two into the side. Nothing easy available here.
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Better to come off the left side of the 6 and tuck the cue ball under the 5. Best advice is when you dont have a shot don't try to be Efren.
 
eg9327 said:
Better to come off the left side of the 6 and tuck the cue ball under the 5. Best advice is when you dont have a shot don't try to be Efren.
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Agreed, and one can see that Poolmanis' home run shot nearly kissed out. That said, I believe he was playing the straight pool ghost here, so safety play is not an option.
 
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