Yang vs Orcullo- Who's Better?

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Orcollo still Philippine 'money game' king---will join Derby City games

Well, according to these articles, Orcollo will be participating in the Derby City tournament next week. He is playing in all 3 divisions - banks, one-pocket and 9-ball including the ring games.

Recently, he won 180,000 pesos in a winner-take-all 'money game' in a field of 6 players that included Efren, Busta, Alcano, Alex Pagulayan and Lee Van Corteza. This just proves how strong a player he is and that he is still the current Philippine money game king.

Here is the article from the Philippine Daily Inguirer:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/sports/view_article.php?article_id=40691


Orcollo leaving for Derby City Classic tilt


Inquirer
Last updated 02:38am (Mla time) 12/29/2006

Published on page A6 of the December 29, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

DENNIS Orcollo, the winningest Filipino player in the US pool circuit last year, is scheduled to leave soon to compete in the 2007 Derby City Classic set Jan. 5-17 at the Executive West Hotel in Louisville, Kentucky.

The 27-year-old veteran cue artist from Teacher’s Village in Quezon City will see action in the Derby City One Pocket Division, Derby City Bank Division, Derby City 9-ball Division, Derby City Ring Game and Derby City Master of the Table.

“I need to practice hard,” said Orcollo, who won the six-man invitational 2006 World Pool League crown in Warsaw, Poland, in Filipino.

Orcollo goes into the tournament fresh from ruling an exclusive star-studded six-man field and bagging the P180,000 winner-take-all purse recently.
The special “money game play” tournament featured Efren (Bata) Reyes, Francisco (Django) Bustamante, Ronnie Alcano, Alex Pagulayan and Lee Van Corteza.

The knockout phase saw Orcollo edging Bustamante, Pagulayan trouncing Alcano and Corteza beating Reyes. By luck of the draw, Orcollo won the first title slot, leaving Corteza and Pagulayan to dispute the other berth.

And here is another version found in this website:

RP Money Game King Leaves To Compete At The Kentucky Derby
DENNIS “Surigao” Orcollo, acknowledge Philippine Billiards money game king is schedule to leave the country to compete in the upcoming 2007 Derby City Classic on January 5-17,2007 at the Executive West Hotel in Louisville, Kentucky, the hometown of American boxing legend and world champion Muhammad Ali.

The 27-year-old Teacher’s Village, Quezon City based and one of the rising players of Bugsy promotion of Perry and Verna Mariano will play in the following events.

They are Derby City One Pocket Division, Derby City Bank Division, Derby City 9-ball Division, Derby City Ring Game and Derby City Master of the Table.

“I need to practice hard, I knew a lot of tough player in the world will compete in the annual and prestigious Derby City Classic in Kentucky.” said Orcollo, the winningest Filipino player in the US pool circuit this year and also won the 2006 World Pool Leaque crown in Warsaw, Poland.

In fact, before facing a lot of greatest pool sharks next month so called the land of milk and honey, Orcollo, also had a monicker “Robocop” in the local pool played a practice match so called “money game” play which attracted country’s top player in one of the famous billiards hall in Metro Manila where the champion take away the P180,000 winner-take all purse plus the title---the greatest “RP billiards money game king” in the land.

“Dennis (Orcollo) is still the most feared money game player in the country today.” said local billiards patron/businessman/ sportsman Ceferino Mariano.

The six man-field “money game play” starts late Wednesday and ends early Thursday in at five o’ clock in the morning. The field are composed of Orcollo, Ronato Alcano (2006 WPC champ), Efren “Bata” Reyes (1999 WPC champ), Alex “The Lion” Pagulayan (2004 WPC champ), Francisco “Django” Bustamante (2002 WPC runner-up) and Lee Van Corteza (2006 All Japan Open champ).

Orcollo edges Bustamante, Pagulayan trounced Alcano and Corteza beat Reyes. With three player left in the knock-out stage format, Orcollo luckily won the draw lots and took a bye where the winner of the match between Corteza and Pagulayan will face Orcollo in the finals.

Corteza beat Pagulayan but loss to most aggressive Orcollo in the P180,000 winner-take all final match as the latter’s retained his “RP money game king” title.

By Marlon Bernardino - December 28, 2006

 

[Island Drive]

I would say that Dennis, Alex and Yang are the three top money players
(9-Ball or Ten Ball) going today. Busty, Johnny and a couple of others are just behind them.

Alex and Dennis may be top dogs right at the moment, but this is subject to change. Yang seems relentless in his pursuit of being considered the best player on Earth.

Of course, at One Pocket, Efren continues to be THE MAN. And to purists like me, that means a lot. It is the toughest game.

As far as Yang being "levels" below anyone, I must disagree. It's more like a millimeter.

Jay,
How about any of them playing Efren each game, 8-ball, 9-ball, 1-pocket, banks, 14.1 and 3-cushion. Lag to see who picks first game and loser picks next game, first to win three different games, who ya like?

 

[Hoyo]

Yang has ever played money games with Bustamante about 3 or 4 times, and Yang won all. In fact, I have never heard Yang lost any money game these years. When Alex won the wpc, he has ever said he has lost his most money games in taiwan.

 

[cheemagun]

Yang has ever played money games with Bustamante about 3 or 4 times, and Yang won all. In fact, I have never heard Yang lost any money game these years. When Alex won the wpc, he has ever said he has lost his most money games in taiwan.

did yang ever play alex for the $ ?

 

[cheemagun]

Jay,
How about any of them playing Efren each game, 8-ball, 9-ball, 1-pocket, banks, 14.1 and 3-cushion. Lag to see who picks first game and loser picks next game, first to win three different games, who ya like?

I like Efren.

 

[jay helfert]

Jay,
How about any of them playing Efren each game, 8-ball, 9-ball, 1-pocket, banks, 14.1 and 3-cushion. Lag to see who picks first game and loser picks next game, first to win three different games, who ya like?

You gotta make Effie the favorite at One Pocket and Three Cushion. Eight Ball and 14.1 he is at least even with the other top guys, Banks probably also. What's left? 9-ball. Who do I like at these six games? EFREN REYES!!!

 

[jay helfert]

Yang has ever played money games with Bustamante about 3 or 4 times, and Yang won all. In fact, I have never heard Yang lost any money game these years. When Alex won the wpc, he has ever said he has lost his most money games in taiwan.

Dennis beat him right before the WPC for 10K and also a few months before that. So twice within the last year.

 

[sniper]

When these two match up it always could go either way, both are unbeatable when they are in stroke. What I like the most is that both players come from countries where money is hard to come by, yet they only play high stakes games and it speaks volumes about their confidence in their own games.

Does anyone know if Yang will be going to DCC? I don't recall him ever playing a tournament in the US.

 

[JohnPT]

All pinoy players are greta money players, they are animals at the table when they can smell money. I have lots of respect for their game.

However, I like Yang's chances, if they both play with their own money. Yang's home table has super small pockets, and the tables conditions in Taiwan is very slow. Yang has one of the most powerful stroke and best potting power I have seen, he is deadly on those slow tables with super tight pockets.

I agree Orcullo is awesome at these kind of equipment, but I want to emphasis the extra pressure of betting with their own money, which I believe would make a big difference and bring out the best out of the player with the strongest mental game when everything is on the line.

From what I understand, and correct me if I am wrong, that most pinoy players bet with their managers' money. The mentality of betting with a backer's money is very different than with one's own money. I think that would give Yang an edge.

Just my .02 cents.

I would like to think playing with their own money Dennis would only be even more focused. I doubt he would wilt at the pressure of playing with his own money, afterall he is the money game king of the Philippines. You don't get there without having nerves of steel. Also, it wouldnt be the first time he's gambled his own money. I mean think about it, he had to have started from the bottom of the ladder years ago and without any backers. Just my opinion.

 

[branpureza]

i would take dennis or van van over yang any day of the week...

 

[X Breaker]

Humm, may be your guys have a point. I guess we will just have to wait for them to play to find out.

Van van is great, I heard he beat Alcano after the WPC for some money.

Richard

 

[buddha162]

What I like the most is that both players come from countries where money is hard to come by

Taiwan makes computer chips, money is not hard to come by.

-Roger

 

[buddha162]

In any type of long match, Orcullo wins 9/10 times.

That is the dumbest/funniest thing I've read here in a long time. I hope they match up in a long race, I'll take the same odds you'll be giving Nostroke.

-Roger

 

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Lee Van Corteza

i would take dennis or van van over yang any day of the week...

Corteza was very impressive in reaching the finals against Dennis in the just concluded special matches that included. Efren, Busti, Alcano, Dennis, Alex Pagulayan. I believe the matches started in the evening and lasted until 5 am in the morning. And it was not even announced before it happened!

Based on the news articles, Dennis beat Bustamante, Alex won over Alcano and Corteza beat the great Efren Reyes. Dennis then drew a bye and Corteza beat Alex Pagulayan to earn the right of challenging Dennis in the finals. Dennis won the final match but what impresses me the most is that Corteza was able to beat Efren and Pagulayan in these pressure filled matches.

Also, watch out for Jeff de Luna. He is slowly but surely making a name for himself. With that spectacular breaking ability of his, I would not be surprised if he along with Corteza will be the next great players to come out of the Philippines.

What about Marlon Manalo? Does he not play any money games at all? His name is always left out when we are talking about the money matches.