Yen Makabenta's Face Is Back On The Frontpage

ASalvador said:
People go to jail for their lies.

Unlike in this internet forum where anybody can hide behind faslse names and say anything and not be accountable for their words or the damage they do.

So what's your name? :o
 
ASalvador said:
You talk of protecting players' interest, yet you refer to their managers' operations as stables -- like animals who can be squeezed for what they're worth and discarded when you've sucked the life out of them. tsk tsk

I'D RATHER BE PART OF A "STABLE" THAN BE CALLED STUPID AND IDIOT BY THE VERY OFFICERS OF MY "NATIONAL ASSOCIATION", WHO IS A MEMBER OF APBU UNDER WPA AND WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE OR BREAK ONE'S CAREER AS ATHLETE.

You fail to mention that BMPAP has never sought BSCP sanction for its tournaments. When Perry Mariano proposed to BSCP that he would run the rating tournaments, BSCP board members funded it with personal money -- not BSCP money. But did Perry do it? No. He pocketed the money -- to date he has neither submitted the results of the ranking tournaments he ran (if he did run them at all) nor accounted for the money.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE ARE HALF TRUTHS...I WILL HAVE TO ANSWER YOU TO PUT THINGS TO REST WITH REGARDS TO THIS ISSUE ONCE AND FOR ALL.

ARE YOU PART OF BSCP? BECAUSE IF YOU ARE, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT I WILL SAY HERE.

PERRY SUGGESTED THIS BSCP RANKING TOUR, IT IS TRUE.

PERRY SUGGESTED THAT IT SHOULD BE HANDLED BY A DIFFERENT EVENT MANAGER, OTHER THAN RAYA. I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE FIRM, BUT I REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE EVENT COORDINATOR IN CHARGE, MS. WAWAY APOLINAR.

PERRY SUGGESTED TO BSCP THAT IT SHOULD BE A NON PROFIT VENTURE, AND EVERYBODY AGREED, AND SINCE BSCP DOES NOT HAVE FUNDS TO BEGIN WITH, MEMBERS AGREED TO FUND THE FIRST TOURNEY WITH THEIR OWN PERSONAL MONEY, HOPING THAT SAN MIGUEL WILL SPONSOR JUST TO BREAK EVEN.

BSCP TREASURER SEBASTIAN CHUA GAVE PERRY P98,000. PERRY ADDED P30,000 FROM HIS OWN MONEY. SO THE TOTAL FUND BECAME P128,000.
TOTAL PRIZE MONEY AMOUNTED TO P116,000. THESE PRIZE MONEY WERE ALL GIVEN OUT TO PLAYERS, FULLY PAID. DID YOU HEAR ANYONE COMPLAINING OF UNPAID PRIZEMONEY HERE????

SO IF YOU TAKE OUT P116,000 FROM P128,000, PERRY WOULD BE LEFT WITH P12,000, RIGHT? DID HE POCKET IT? NO, WHY NOT? BECAUSE TV PRODUCTION FOR CHANNEL 9 COSTS P20,000 SO HE ENDED UP SHELLING OUT P8,000 MORE!!!!! TOTAL PERSONAL MONEY SHELLED OUT BY PERRY FOR THIS EVENT: P38,000...AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, MS. WAWAY APOLINAR, WHO WAS COMMISSIONED BY BSCP TO RUN THIS THING WAS NOT PAID. SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID P15,000.

MR. FAJARDO KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND I URGE HIM TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS TRUTH ONCE AND FOR ALL. THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN USED AGAINST PERRY MORE THAN ONCE AND YOU KNOW, PERRY IS NO SAINT, BUT THIS ONE, HE DID NOT DO, OKAY?

AROUND THIS TIME, FEUD STARTED ALREADY BETWEEN THE MANAGERS/PLAYERS AND BSCP, SO THE TOUR WAS LEFT UNATTENDED. OH BY THE WAY, SAN MIGUEL DID NOT SPONSOR. THEIR REASON? THERE IS ALREADY TOO MANY POOL TOURNAMENT LINED UP ON THEIR DESK....ALL RAYA EVENTS. THEY GOT CONFUSED FOR A WHILE BETWEEN BSCP AND RAYA EVENTS. THEY THOUGHT, THIS NON PROFIT EVENT OF BSCP WAS PART OF RAYA EVENT.

AND ALSO, RAYA PRESIDENT/OWNER CUM BSCP CHAIRMAN WAS CONVINCING PERRY TO GIVE TO RAYA AND BUGSY PROMOTIONS THIS RANKING TOURNAMENT AND TURN PROFIT FROM IT, BUT PERRY SAID, NO, AND SAID TO RAYA PRESIDENT/OWNER CUM BSCP CHAIRMAN, "WITH DUE RESPECT SIR, LET'S GIVE THIS ONE TO BSCP."

AND ONE MORE THING, RAYA PRESIDENT/OWNER/ CUM BSCP CHAIRMAN LIVES A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM WHERE THE BSCP RANKING TOURNAMENT WAS HELD. NOT EVEN ONCE DID HE VISIT THIS "NON PROFIT" VENTURE OF BSCP, MAYBE THAT IS WHY YOU AND HIM ARE NOT EVEN SURE IF THIS EVENT TOOK PLACE. BUT MR. FAJARDO WAS THERE. SO HE KNOWS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. UNLESS HE STARTED TO DEVELOP AMNESIA DUE TO HIS ASSOCIATION WITH RAYA PRESIDENT/OWNER CUM BSCP CHAIRMAN."


You keep insisting that there's this P10 million that Phil Sports Commission gave BSCP, yet the PSC as confirmed by the Commission on Audit said that there was so such amount given -- that only P1.2 million was given to directly to pool players and coaches for their tournament stipend and expenses and none to BSCP.

As for government sponsorship of events -- whether 10 million or 100 million (you can't even get your figures right) -- all sponsorships are well documented and accounted for. They are called certificates of performance, issued by the broadcasters like ESPN-Star Sports, ABS-CBN, Solar, ABC5, etc. These are submitted to the respective sponsors -- including government agencies who sponsored like the DOT etc.

READ SENATE HEARING TRANSCRIPTS PLEASE...AND PLEASE, ISN'T IT IRONIC THAT BSCP DOES NOT HAVE MONEY TO RUN ITS OWN BSCP RANKING TOURNAMENT, THE ONE YOU MENTIONED ABOVE, BUT, RAYA PRESIDENT/OWNER CUM BSCP CHAIRMAN CAN ASK THE GOVERNMENT FOR SPONSORSHIP USING BSCP'S NAME FOR MULTI MILLION PESO PROJECTS?

you are right on one point, though. It is good that it is in the proper fora like the courts and the legislature -- because there, the issues will be sorted out properly, and all those who speak there will be held accountable for their statements. People go to jail for their lies.

Unlike in this internet forum where anybody can hide behind faslse names and say anything and not be accountable for their words or the damage they do.

OH YES INDEED, THANK YOU ALEX PAGULAYAN FOR BRINGING THINGS IN COURT, WE WILL KNOW WHO IS LYING AND WHO SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DAMAGES THEY DID TO YOUR BEING.
 
ASalvador said:
You talk of protecting players' interest, yet you refer to their managers' operations as stables -- like animals who can be squeezed for what they're worth and discarded when you've sucked the life out of them. tsk tsk

You fail to mention that BMPAP has never sought BSCP sanction for its tournaments. When Perry Mariano proposed to BSCP that he would run the rating tournaments, BSCP board members funded it with personal money -- not BSCP money. But did Perry do it? No. He pocketed the money -- to date he has neither submitted the results of the ranking tournaments he ran (if he did run them at all) nor accounted for the money.

You keep insisting that there's this P10 million that Phil Sports Commission gave BSCP, yet the PSC as confirmed by the Commission on Audit said that there was so such amount given -- that only P1.2 million was given to directly to pool players and coaches for their tournament stipend and expenses and none to BSCP.

As for government sponsorship of events -- whether 10 million or 100 million (you can't even get your figures right) -- all sponsorships are well documented and accounted for. They are called certificates of performance, issued by the broadcasters like ESPN-Star Sports, ABS-CBN, Solar, ABC5, etc. These are submitted to the respective sponsors -- including government agencies who sponsored like the DOT etc.


you are right on one point, though. It is good that it is in the proper fora like the courts and the legislature -- because there, the issues will be sorted out properly, and all those who speak there will be held accountable for their statements. People go to jail for their lies.

Unlike in this internet forum where anybody can hide behind faslse names and say anything and not be accountable for their words or the damage they do.

you sure sound like yens cohorts..

let me sum up my question??

so you are saying the likes of efren and co. and managers like puyat who up to yen/and your existence, never thought of starting an organization to fight tyrranical and corrupt ways of yen/and your kind/cohorts..
are you saying they are wrong and youall right at BSCP???


bunch of vultures and wolves
 
[QUOTE ASALVADORUnlike in this internet forum where anybody can hide behind faslse names and say anything and not be accountable for their words or the damage they do.[/QUOTE]

so what are you gonna do with our real identity if we disclosed it... apply your crook ways and try to what???

the point is you all there at bscp are bunch of crooks on suits and ties,,, i hope that the whole pool world will wake up and will have the courage and decency to stay away and amke a stand against bscp have nothing to do with people like you/bscp....



"""".....people go to jail for lies"""""

then all you there at bscp should all be in jail now.... like saying alex will not be part of the phil. representation because of his antics... who you fooling..now you are reaping the fruit of your lies and corruptions...

whenever i look at yens pic...his lips/along with his cohorts are glossed with lies...these people at BSCP are not capable of telling the truth

these people at bscp are no different from phil. politicians and authorities..all there to steal and be corrupt...you know i'm telling the truth
 
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arian dacongan said:
I WAS SO GLAD FOR AWHILE THAT YEN'S FACE - BEING ALL OVER THE FRONTPAGE OF AZ.. WAS GONE :smile: I DID NOT VISIT AZ FOR AWHILE COZ THE MOMENT YOU OPEN IT..IT'S ALL YEN'S FACE THERE..AT SOME POINT ALL FACES ON COLUMNS ARE HIS..
 
People who do not know about what really is happening in the Philippines rely on official statements and press releases. BSCP has that edge, having media man Yen Makabenta to make things seem credible on print. They also have Tony Baranda, a public relations specialist whose craft is to package personalities like politicians.

BMPAP has only Virginia Girl, Bandido and Sputnik working on bringing the story to you in the different billiard forums (fora) in the Internet. We know that ultimately, you are the people that matter and not the recipients of ugly text messages or the patrons of the leading newspapers who do not know the difference between a cue tip chalk from a blackboard chalk.

ASalvador's demeanor is a glaring example of how BSCP wants to maintain a grip on Philippine billiards: by slapping WPA accreditation across the face. He gloats on the fact that BMPAP will have to go through BSCP and enjoys the status of BMPAP being at BSCP's mercy. But that will not work with people like Puyat, Mariano, Edwin, Efren Bata, Django, Alex etc. and that is the reason why keeping a distance from BSCP was the only option.

BMPAP understands that BSCP can make things difficult for its players so it had lined up $20,000 domestic tournaments (every two months) to sustain this fight against unfair accreditation practice. It is important to know that Efren Bata is the VP of BMPAP and all the top players are its members except for Gabica, De Luna and Manalo. So this is a concerted effort to fight BSCP.

Another rationale for this domestic course is that BMPAP is learning lessons before offering huge tournaments with huge words out to the world. BMPAP believes that it has evolved into international capacity through hard work and through the people behind it who are the true components of Philippine billiards. BMPAP does not want to falter with tournaments like having late payments, unjust qualifiers, etc.

BMPAP is doing great domestically, but you will have to know the truth because bad odor is a stranger to distance. We are in the Internet forums not only because we want you to sympathize and appreciate how we are solving our problems at home -- but also because we want you to know that a country member of WPA does not bring goodwill to the whole organization.

It is also important to know that BMPAP is more than willing to cooperate with WPA, but just not under the dictatorial grip of BSCP.

Nevertheless, BMPAP is confident that things will fall in the right places because nothing dictatorial can outlast democracy. Justice (be it from WPA, POC, PSC or the judicial system) will prevail. This is aside from BMPAP having superior planning, implementation, international experience, character, funding, and integrity.

Bringing WPC in the country for two years is a BSCP accomplishment. I think we all agree with Jerry Forsyth on that. Having a Filipino as "Man of the Year" by a magazine brings pride to the country. But when things are superficially motivated, it cannot get further than that. WPC was business. It is unknown to me if Matchroom Sports is still willing to deal with BSCP/Raya despite late payments, but most probably, BSCP/Raya just cannot financially afford another year of hosting. Instead, BSCP now wants to compete against Matchroom Sports's WPC and come up with a World 10-Ball Open. BSCP should have picked up on this fantastic momentum and opportunity given by Matchroom Sports but now they bite the hand that had fed them. BSCP does not even have the top Filipino (and world) players to bite with, so this swings them to and fro with their disloyalty to both its constituents and its patrons.

Getting the WPA into this mess is BSCP's last thread to hang on to because they messed up big-time at home, and the power of accreditation is their only saving factor right now. Without that accreditation, they are nothing to the Philippine pool world because they can hardly meet their obligations and they have second rate players and following. But there are ways for BMPAP to go around it -- only because BMPAP truly constitutes the Philippine pool world with its players, managers, and fans. BMPAP has the domestic support and the kinetic energy to outlast BSCP and its accreditation.

It is my personal prediction that for as long as WPA accommodates such representation in BSCP, it will be a series of domestic tournaments that will sustain your Filipino superstars IF Mr. Andersen's statement (that BMPAP should be in good standing with BSCP) will give BSCP the teeth to continue biting with. Again, BMPAP is more than willing to cooperate with WPA but not with BSCP. We all know how Efren, Django, Alex, Ronnie, Dennis, Gomez, Corteza, Luat, etc. will be missed in international competitions, but this is the only way to fight the unjust and rugged ways of BSCP.

If this scenario will be bad for everybody, perhaps WPA should give APBU or the Philippine Olympic Committee the ultimatum to solve things. That way, WPA will not be partial to BMPAP or to BSCP. I am sure though that this plight of BMPAP can appreciate some help and support from outside the country.
 
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Contents of BMPAP Advisory sent to sponsors

Billiard Managers and Players Association of the Philippines
A Professional Organization

21 July 2008


BMPAP Advisory


Mabuhay! The sport that we Filipinos take most pride in is in its most exciting time. Our beloved Filipino Poolplayers are continually reaching greater heights and the most recent achievements of note are Alex Pagulayan?s triumph in the 2008 World Pool Masters and Dennis Orcullo?s conquest in the 1st Qatar International 9-Ball Championship.

The Philippines and its people are blessed with such abundance of world-class players that every world caliber competition is always regarded as another laurel that can easily be donned by a Filipino Pool Champion. Such source of national pride and its ever increasing frequency brings too the ever increasing responsibility in safeguarding this national treasure that our country is extremely proud of in this economically trying times.

We, the BMPAP Officers and Directors, being of service to the country and its people in safeguarding and assuring that this source of national pride will continually progress would like to solicit the assistance of all our loyal supporters in our fight to battle the unauthorized use and exploitation of our Champions and up-and-comers in our sport of pool.

May we please remind all our supporters that there are elements that flaunt the names of our champions for their own personal financial gains without the authority to use these names in association with their promoted events.

In response to the above improprieties, the BMPAP Organization announces that all BMPAP member players, their names and likeness cannot be used in advertising or as part of any marketing/event sponsorship solicitation program without the expressed written consent of the BMPAP Organization.

We encourage you to contact us for further information and assistance or to report such occurance.of misrepresentation. Your kind cooperation is requested and appreciated
 
Senator Villar at the Phil Sportswriters Ass'n Forum

With the Senate President Manny Villar Cup becoming a regular event in the Philippine billiards? calendar, Filipino cue artists doesn?t have to go to abroad to strut their wares and make a living out of it.

And with Senate President Manny Villar declaring that his all-out support is for a long haul, the sport ?we Filipinos can call our own? is in for a big surge.

?Yan ang isa sa pinakamagandang biyaya sa amin ng Villar Cup, ?yung hindi na namin kailangang lumabas palagi ng bansa para sumali sa tournament at kumita,? said former Asian Games gold medalist and Villar Cup Cebu Leg champion Gandy Valle during yesterday's PSA Forum at the Shakey's U.N. Avenue branch in Manila .

?Kaya itinuturing namin itong Villar Cup na hulog ng langit, and lubos ang aming pasasalamat kay sir (Senator Villar) sa tulong na ibinibigay n'ya,? added Valle, who will defend the Villar Cup when the island-hopping series holds its Bulacan Leg starting on Friday at the Events Center of SM City in Marilao.

?Hindi lang kami mga beteranong bilyarista ang nabibiyayaan, kundi pati ?yung mga young and aspiring players, na nagkakaroon ng pagkakataong mahasa ang kanilang skills at makilala.

Perry Mariano, one of the founders of the Billiards Managers and Players Association of the Philippines (BMPAP), called Villar a "divine providence" to Philippine billiards.

?His entry really made huge impact to the sport,? said Mariano, who was also present in the weekly sports session sponsored by Shakey's, Accel, Brickroad gym and Aspen spa and MedCentral Medical Clinic and Diagnostic Center .

Villar, who also graced the forum for the first time, reiterated his support for billiards.

?Itong pagsuporta kong ito sa bilyar ay hindi ningas-kugon, kundi pangmatagalan,? said the third highest official in the land.

"We've only just begun," quipped Villar.

With practically all of the country's world-class pool masters competing, Villar Cup is now considered as one of the prestigious and much-anticipated tournaments, not just in the Philippines but in the whole world as well. Many foreign players are looking and requesting to play in the event.

Besides Valle, other marquee players vying in the Villar Cup Bulacan Leg are former world champions Efren ?Bata? Reyes and Ronnie Alcano, former world no.1 Francisco ?Django? Bustamante, 2007 World Pool runner-up Roberto Gomez, reigning national champion Lee Van Corteza and Villar Cup Alabang leg winner Warren Kiamco.

Current world no.1 Dennis Orcollo, along with former world titlist Alex Pagulayan and Joven Bustamante, will not be able to participate in the tournament as they will be competing in the Singapore leg of the Guinness 9-Ball Tour.

Villar Cup also has the Sipag at Tiyaga division, a tournament for the so-called "penersera-pababa", which includes the country?s budding young stars. The event, which attracted a total of 120 participants, is ongoing at the AMF-Puyat Center in StarMall EDSA.

Meanwhile, Mariano reiterated the BMPAP?s stand on the planned staging of the World 10-Ball Championship, which they planned to boycott.

"Unless the issues we've been fighting for a resolved, we will not participate in that tournament. It's all about principle," said Mariano.


Besides the World 10-Ball tilt, the Philippines is also tipped to host the most prestigious World Pool (9-Ball) Championship this November. The BMPAP is currently negotiating with the UK-based Matchroom Sport to bring the mother of all billiards tournaments to the country for the straight year.
 
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i guess there's a lot of views on this thread but just mainly watching and waiting see what happens...

....wished folks here cared more so they can voice their "indignation" if there is any..that may put some pressure on the "concern" parties
 
I imagine most people around the world are just watchig and waiting as you say because there is little else they can do.

I am sure that the members of the BMPAP are doing what they think is right but those of us who are thousands of miles away can do little to help.

I suppose a general boycott of the 10 ball World Championship would be the best thing that could happen in your interests but obviously it is not going to happen.

I have a lot of respect for those involved with the BMPAP and wish them all the luck in the world in their struggle.

I am not a player, or at least, not one with a scrap of the talent of the professional players around the world but I care deeply about the sport and hope that the problems in the Philippines at the moment will be resolved as soon as possible.

We too have had problems over the years in my adopted country and our struggle has been going on for 8 years now, we can at last, see the light at the end of the tunnel but it has required an infinite amount of patience to deal with the frustration and the dirty tactics of our opposition.

If the senate hearing doesn't turn out as you would wish, you will need the same amount of patience as us but at the end you have to triumph if right is on your side.

If moral support is any good to you, you certainly have mine.
 
Thank you Peter for your moral support. I hope things work out right on your end.

It would be unfair and unethical for BMPAP to ask others to boycott the 10-ball event. Only BMPAP players will not join. To the players, it is a form of protest. To BMPAP managers, aside from principle, I think it also has a business strategy in it. No Coke employee will be caught drinking Pepsi. The BMPAP managers and players used to be the supply pool of BSCP but they decided to compete with each other.

Any businessman will wonder why BSCP, who turned commercial by getting into partnerships, did not rectify things before getting blown out of proportion. In business, you look at the supply side and the demand side. The explanation to that is Conflict of Interest. If Raya was not in any way connected with BSCP, decisions would not have been very non-businesslike. The players and managers were the pillars of BSCP - even of Raya - and they should have taken care of their business relations. Little did they know that their Conflict of Interest knocked down their own foundation. The main blinding factor in their Conflict of Interest is the WPA accreditation. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no other intelligent explanation. And the symptom is arrogance.

The WPA statement is telling the two business competitors to patch things up because competitor BMPAP has to be in good standing with competitor BSCP/Raya/Star for things to work out due to accreditation!

Those who can help will come only from the organization itself where they can correct their wrongs in the improper use of accreditations. If it comes from BSCP itself, then probably things will be different. To this point, BSCP, from their arrogant high chair, has not lifted a finger to address any complaint. They have failed to recognize that in a sense, the players own them because they are an amateur National Sports Organization using government funds.

As early as March, the players and managers explored the possibility of having the mother government agency of BSCP to rectify the injustice so that status quo in the system can be maintained. The system, in theory, was workable. The managers of BMPAP were contacting BSCP to no avail. All these were before the birth of BMPAP, and it is not like the players and managers did not try to reach out.

Now, BSCP has no more constituents and they are forcing their former constituents, BMPAP, to be under them by taking advantage of WPA accreditation. Unfortunately for BSCP, it's too late now to rectify things because their people had already left them.

So I do not think BMPAP has any other choice but to stand firm against those in BSCP whose roles should be to help the Filipino players. Instead, conflict of interest (with its openly declared "partnerships" with Raya Sports and Star Paper) blinded them into functioning like a business outfit. They forgot all about their players. BSCP has converted themselves into players in the Philippine billiard business scene but their ways have been authoritarian. It's like playing 9-ball against a player who doubles as a referee.

But even if there is an unfair playing field because of the unfair use of accreditation, BMPAP seems to be confident that things will fall in the right places. Where can you find an army of only Generals who enjoy long-lasting diplomatic relations? BSCP is penetrable from all flanks - from players, to its own organization, to its sponsors.

Indeed, triumph awaits fairness.
 
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these questions must be answered by BSCP...

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY SPUTNIK:

There is hardly nothing new with Makabenta's introduction of BSCP.

This is what we want to know:

1] Who put "Bona Fide" Makabenta, Baranda, Chua, et al into BSCP? Does BSCP have a set of legitimate and legal By-Laws and Constitution registered under the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)?

As far legal documents say, it is BILLIARDS AND SNOOKERS ASSN. INC., co-founded by Edgar Acaba, that is being misrepresented with the name BILLIARDS & SNOOKER CONGRESS OF THE PHILIPPINES. And, if by any legal document, one can relate BSCP with BSAI as one legal entity, the BY-Laws and Constitution of BSAI have grossly been igored since 1987 -- from memberships, to annual elections.

2] Is "Raya Sports" registered under the SEC or under the Department of Trade and Industries? It is important for us to know because BSCP has taken the liberty to partner with this seemingly bogus entity as it cannot be found in both SEC nor DTI search engines.

Furthermore, is there any legal and unbiased opinion that is available (aside from the personal argument) that there is no conflict of interest in being Chairman of a National Sport Association (that uses government funds) and at the same time being President of the so-called "Raya Sports" in a declared accredited partnership?

The defense in this conflict of interest always ends with the claim that "BSCP being a private corporation". Why does it not ever continue with BSCP being a private corporation and an accredited NSA using government funds? Your defense is a half-truth, and half-truths are tantamount to lying.

3] Is the other BSCP affiliate, Philippine Billiard Development Foundation registered under the SEC? Again, the search engines of SEC do not say so. Where does this affiliation come in? Is this a fall-back organization in case your infraction-riddled BSCP gets expelled as an NSA?

4] The eight directors had been listed. Where is the list of members that you claim are by the millions?

Makabenta says that BSCP has the millions of pool fans in the Philippines under it. Is this a claim that the fans of Efren, Alex, Django, Ronnie, Dennis, Lee Van, etc are actually BSCP fans and NOT of these superstars'? This unquantifiable claim that are made again shows how frantic BSCP is in wanting credibility despite its legal existence.

5] About Makabenta's claim of "loving our sport and nurturing it for the enjoyment of players and fans alike", how much has he actually helped the players as Chairman of BSCP? Let's go to the basic unit of the claimed constituents - the player - Has Makabenta ever spent even for one player plane fare? Has he accompanied or assisted any player to get travel visas or licenses? Has he even referred any player to a doctor for medical assistance?

The mere fact that all the players left BSCP is very telling on how Makabenta nurtures and loves the sport because if he was fair and true to his BSCP job, his Raya job wouldn't have difficulty in masquerading true colors.

We welcome any proof of help that Makabenta had extended to any Filipino player.

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If Makabenta will only show us that there is no cause for mentioning the above with facts and scanned documentation, BSCP's credibility problems will be solved because without these basic credentials, BSCP is nothing.

Never mind the P10 Million; the Alex Pagulayan case; the fact that you took a bus in Germany and forgot all about your youth country representative (minor Revo David); the disrespect that World Champion Alcano took in your Qualifiers; the fact that your players go around pool halls trying to cash your post-dated checks... to name a few.

By the way, his qualification as chief speech writer to two Philippine presidents is, in my opinion, the most relevant information that your introduction had lent us. It explains many things about a Makabenta-led BSCP. It is a fact that the Philippines is in the list among the top corrupt countries in the world. We would, for the love of the sport, want to spare billiards -- where all the Filipino stars are loved world-wide (including Alex whom you banned) -- from such reputation.

Yen Makabenta and Raya Sports could really achieve a noble dream of creating a world championship owned by a Filipino. But not in ways where others will have to be wronged to be able to achieve it. Please leave BSCP out of it!

If you cannot understand why the likes of Efren "Bata" Reyes have left you because the reality of it hinders your dreams, please do not protect your dreams by insulting the superstars (who are are apparently loved by everyone except your group) by suggesting that they are stupid enough to be "used" by BMPAP. Number one, they are not stupid. Number two, they, in fact are the BMPAP.
 
unbelievable

I was away from AZ for along time .(many here prolly were happy about that)

i came back today and found out that our dear friend and true pool patriot was murdered ...

i'm so sick and feel so bad about all this... i never thought that these people that we were fighting "in ideals" would actually resort to murder...

edwin is a true pool hero... its all been said...

if you have read my posts..you know that there's no one that hit "these" people harder than i did....(read my posts)

..i even got to the point of lambasting jerry and some for their efforts to justify and beautify yen and cohorts...

...hopefully ,,these will bring a sobering realization to all involevd including myself... how evil these people are...

See you someday my friend EDWIN REYES...Rest In Peace
 
not keeping up much the last week or so myself . . .

I haven't been paying much attention to the forum the last week or so myself, too busy on other fronts. I didn't notice this was an old thread until I saw Edwin's first post. We all have lost a lot with his passing. We can only hope that justice is done regardless of who is behind his murder.

Hu


I was away from AZ for along time .(many here prolly were happy about that)

i came back today and found out that our dear friend and true pool patriot was murdered ...

i'm so sick and feel so bad about all this... i never thought that these people that we were fighting "in ideals" would actually resort to murder...

edwin is a true pool hero... its all been said...

if you have read my posts..you know that there's no one that hit "these" people harder than i did....(read my posts)

..i even got to the point of lambasting jerry and some for their efforts to justify and beautify yen and cohorts...

...hopefully ,,these will bring a sobering realization to all involevd including myself... how evil these people are...

See you someday my friend EDWIN REYES...Rest In Peace
 
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