You and a friend in a tournament?

u12armresl

u12armresl

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You and a friend go play in a tournament (let's add that you drive 2k miles to make it even more painstaking LOL) You both end up drawing each other in (insert round here, but it has to be relatively early i.e. 1st 3 rounds)

At this point, you don't really want to play it out, so you decide who goes on. Do you let the better player out of the 2 of you stay in the winners side, or send them to the losers bracket?

There is interesting logic on both sides, sometimes the losers bracket is much harder than the winners (based on upsets)

Curious about your thoughts. Do you keep the stronger player in the winner's side, put them in the loser's side to clean up things (but also play more matches) and also knowing that you might be joining them very soon lol.

Thanks for reading.
 
u12armresl said:
Insert whatever playing levels helps you best answer this question please.


You and a friend go play in a tournament (let's add that you drive 2k miles to make it even more painstaking LOL) You both end up drawing each other in (insert round here, but it has to be relatively early i.e. 1st 3 rounds)

At this point, you don't really want to play it out, so you decide who goes on. Do you let the better player out of the 2 of you stay in the winners side, or send them to the losers bracket?

There is interesting logic on both sides, sometimes the losers bracket is much harder than the winners (based on upsets)

Curious about your thoughts. Do you keep the stronger player in the winner's side, put them in the loser's side to clean up things (but also play more matches) and also knowing that you might be joining them very soon lol.

Thanks for reading.
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If youre traveling that far for a tournament, I would play it out. Whoever wins moves on. Small little weekly type tournaments, stronger player to the losers bracket. Even then, a lot depends on the field. If neither of you have a good chance with that scenario, then stronger player advances no matter what.
 
Play it out. If your friends then the competition will be a healthy one.
It also keeps the integrity of the tournament together :thumbup:
 
Chuck Fields said:
If youre traveling that far for a tournament, I would play it out. Whoever wins moves on. Small little weekly type tournaments, stronger player to the losers bracket. Even then, a lot depends on the field. If neither of you have a good chance with that scenario, then stronger player advances no matter what.
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This is the way we always do it.
 
Uh, play it out, cuz that's why you came?

Or cheat the rest of the field for one player's advantage and call it good.

Jeff Livingston
 
Play it out in my opinion. Throwing a match might keep a lazy hangover unless your mentally strong.
For most, a hard fought loss is still a win mentally, at least that's how I feel about it.
 
if my friend even suggested such a "planned outcome"; well i don't know if we could continue being a friend on the level you suggest. you need to ask yourself why you even play in a tourney. in my case and my friends we each would do our utmost best to win on our own merits and not trying to somehow swing the odds in your or your friends favor.

when you play, play to win. otherwise don't play.
 
The way I've done it, pairs or groups split on all winnings no matter what. If they match up head to head, the higher seeded player is chosen to advance without the loss.
 
For the three years I was on the road, my partner and I would just flip a coin to see who would advance even though I needed the seven ball from him for an even game. Since we split everything down the middle, it really didn't make any difference.

If one of us got bumped out of the tourney, he or I would go find side action and sometimes win more than top money in the tourney. LOL


Stones
 
It has happened to me with friends and we always play it out. We like to have the bragging rights on each other.
 
Where did I say throwing a match?

Normally you just go to the tournament director and say move this person on.

worktheknight said:
Play it out in my opinion. Throwing a match might keep a lazy hangover unless your mentally strong.
For most, a hard fought loss is still a win mentally, at least that's how I feel about it.
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Thanks Stones, that's exactly what I was talking about.

Stones said:
For the three years I was on the road, my partner and I would just flip a coin to see who would advance even though I needed the seven ball from him for an even game. Since we split everything down the middle, it really didn't make any difference.

If one of us got bumped out of the tourney, he or I would go find side action and sometimes win more than top money in the tourney. LOL


Stones
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u12armresl said:
Where did I say throwing a match?

Normally you just go to the tournament director and say move this person on.
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That is exactly throwing a match. I'll grant that your way keeps railbirds from betting on it, but it is, by definition, throwing a match.

That said, it is actually worse than throwing a match if you are weighing the odds of both or one finishing better in the tourney by doing it. This is manipulating the brackets.

I wouldn't even consider doing this if a calcutta were involved unless we both owned 100% of ourselves in said calcutta.

In regards to your original question, I can't see why you wouldn't leave the better player in the winners *unless* the better player had already put one of the top contenders in the loser's bracket. If this were the case, the better player would likely meet the person he put down again and have a better chance to put him out.

I do think that if I were running a tourney and this happened, both players would get a warning. If it happened another time or another tourney, I'd disqualify both.
 
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