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3RAILKICK

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You set your cue against the wall, in a cue holder, on an adjacent table.

Did you-

-(purposely?) shark your opponent?(if so, misdemeanor or felony?)(answer depend on whether you did so in front of, or out of sight of shooting opponent)

-Just figure you weren't going to need it any more that rack. If he misses, you retrieve your cue and go shoot.

-Is a sportsmanship issue or time management issue? One less thing to do before you grab the rack for the next game.

-If opponent accuses you of sharking in this scenario-what is your response?

(Not talking about making a big production of 'parking' cue, instead,quietly setting your cue aside waiting for the run out to be completed.)

-No big deal-right?

-Your opinion? No opinion because it's a non- issue?

3railkick
 
If that is truely all you did, your opponent is a nit, period. If that breaks their concentration, get ready to shoot again.

Lyn
 
cardiac kid said:
If that is truely all you did, your opponent is a nit, period. If that breaks their concentration, get ready to shoot again.

Lyn
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I agree! If someone considers that a shark move he deserves to really get some moves. Pool is not the same as being in a library.

Dick
 
If you're delving into how people both park and then unpark their cue with their opponent still at the table, and it's done at suspect times in fairly obvious ways to the opponent, well... Some people make that move an art.
 
I think the only way it could be considered a sharking move is if you did it in his line of sight or right before he pulls the trigger. If you do it while he is up thinking or not looking at you, then, yea, he's just looking for an excuse.
 
There nothing wrong with that,, some ppl have a strange def. of sharking........
 
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Masayoshi said:
I think the only way it could be considered a sharking move is if you did it in his line of sight or right before he pulls the trigger. If you do it while he is up thinking or not looking at you, then, yea, he's just looking for an excuse.
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I agree with what Masayoshi said.
 
I agree with all the above. If you simply put down your cue after shooting and did not do something while your opponent was about to shoot, the guy is a nit. However, if you did do something as he was about to shoot, that might very well be a shark if it is in his line of sight.
If you simply put down the cue after your turn and that breaks his concentration, he is in a world of hurt.
Me personally, I very seldom see anything that is going on around me once I get down on the table. My eyes are glued to the object ball.
 
Its proper etiquette, if there is such a thing in pool, at least in tournaments, to put your cue down where ever and sit down promptly when its the other players turn. As is, his/her responsibility to give you time to do so before beginning their routine.
 
What are you supposed to do, hold your cue in your hand the whole time? If you're going to sit, of course you're going to set your cue down. That in itself is proper etiquette. Sounds like someone looking to justify a loss.
 
Let me just say that when I see an opponent set his stick down when i'm on my last 3 balls.. I consider that a shark move. It may not be, but it's like putting pressure to finish what you are doing.. an added pressure.. that's a shark move and having said that..

I wouldn't have them stop doing it. It's just something else I need to learn to deal with.. expectations.
 
paksat said:
Let me just say that when I see an opponent set his stick down when i'm on my last 3 balls.. I consider that a shark move. It may not be, but it's like putting pressure to finish what you are doing.. an added pressure.. that's a shark move and having said that..

I wouldn't have them stop doing it. It's just something else I need to learn to deal with.. expectations.
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Good post. It's hard to convey in text how you view this situation, but I think I get it. If he's been holding his cue for a while and you make a shot that springs the trap and opens it up, and he puts his cue down within reasonable eye view, then yeah, he's probably trying on some level, to get under your skin.

Call it a move, call it a shark, or just call it pool. When done subtly, it's not severe enough to make a deal out of. It's simply too commonplace a practice, unfortunately.
 
if the simple act of your opponent putting his cue down sharks you?......you need to thicken your skin so to speak.

The way I see it is this......I HOPE my opponent tries to shark me, it shows weakness and a lack of confidence. There is nothing harder then playing someone that makes no emotional responses to ANYTHING good or bad......very un-nerving IMO

G.
 
Gerry said:
if the simple act of your opponent putting his cue down sharks you?......you need to thicken your skin so to speak.

The way I see it is this......I HOPE my opponent tries to shark me, it shows weakness and a lack of confidence. There is nothing harder then playing someone that makes no emotional responses to ANYTHING good or bad......very un-nerving IMO

G.
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It doesn't mess with you enough, but it does catch your attention. Like the poster below me said, it's hard to put into words but it's there enough for you to feel it.

Like I said, I prefer them to keep doing it.. sooner or later, it'll be a sign the fat lady has picked up the microphone..
 
3RAILKICK said:
You set your cue against the wall, in a cue holder, on an adjacent table.

Did you-

-(purposely?) shark your opponent?(if so, misdemeanor or felony?)(answer depend on whether you did so in front of, or out of sight of shooting opponent)

-Just figure you weren't going to need it any more that rack. If he misses, you retrieve your cue and go shoot.

-Is a sportsmanship issue or time management issue? One less thing to do before you grab the rack for the next game.

-If opponent accuses you of sharking in this scenario-what is your response?

(Not talking about making a big production of 'parking' cue, instead,quietly setting your cue aside waiting for the run out to be completed.)

-No big deal-right?

-Your opinion? No opinion because it's a non- issue?

3railkick
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It's a non-issue .... sat down, put your cue aside, waited to see what the outcome would be. He runs out, you rack ... or you get back to the table. No biggy!
 
Agreed

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8Ball48043 said:
It's a non-issue .... sat down, put your cue aside, waited to see what the outcome would be. He runs out, you rack ... or you get back to the table. No biggy!
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I thot so too. That is- I didn't think about it at all. The guy said he thot I conceded the rack and so he rushed the easy 8ball and missed with the 9ball hanging. He was able to see me quietly set the cue aside before he shot at the 8ball.

I said that if I had conceded the game-I would have told him 'that's good' and gather the balls to start racking. I told him that he needs to be certain of the concession of game-because shooting at conceded balls voids that concession. (I don't really know if that's a rule or not-sounded OK at the time)


Bottom line-TD had us play it over. I lost. All this hub-bub for nothing. I still quietly set cue aside if it looks like I'm not getting another shot.

Some days are like that-thanks for listening.

3railkick
 
Are the rules that difficult to understand?

Are players that easily distracted that the whereabouts of the non-shooting players cue becomes a factor on how well the shooting player performs?
 
Really?

I tend to think that people who are overly sensitive to subtle distractions are the one's who are doing the sharking.

Not sure I'd believe that he actually thought you conceded the rack...
 
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