zero flex shaft
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I don't but I am curious. Is it like a cutec shaft?
Zero Flex Slim™
11.75mm Zero Flex Slim™ Technology shaft with black collar 3/8 x 10
Hybrid Technology (click on image for additional information)
Masteri 8 Layer Leather Tip
Go Slim! Zero Flex Slim™
Want even more of a performance edge -- GO SLIM! The Zero Flex Slim ™ 11.75mm Hybrid shaft was engineered to enhance the technology of the Zero Flexpoint shaft. This Slimline tapper applied to the Zero Flexpoint ™ ferrule special polymer construction and then shorting of the core from 3/4" to 7/8" created a shaft with even lower deflection. If the Zero Flexpoint ™ wasn’t already as dead-on accurate as you can get now there’s more. For an extremely solid hit, Total Sweet Spot Construction (TSC) ™ for maximum transfer of energy, and a Maesteri 8 layer vacuumed sealed leather tip for ultimate ball control---Zero Flex Slim ™ is ultimate tool for any player.
TSC™ For ultimate performance
Total Sweet Spot Construction (TSC)™ is a special 8-piece radial construction that extends the sweet spot throughout the entire cue shaft, resulting in unmatched power and ultimate control.
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11.75mm Zero Flex Slim™ Technology shaft with black collar 3/8 x 10
Hybrid Technology (click on image for additional information)
Masteri 8 Layer Leather Tip
Go Slim! Zero Flex Slim™
Want even more of a performance edge -- GO SLIM! The Zero Flex Slim ™ 11.75mm Hybrid shaft was engineered to enhance the technology of the Zero Flexpoint shaft. This Slimline tapper applied to the Zero Flexpoint ™ ferrule special polymer construction and then shorting of the core from 3/4" to 7/8" created a shaft with even lower deflection. If the Zero Flexpoint ™ wasn’t already as dead-on accurate as you can get now there’s more. For an extremely solid hit, Total Sweet Spot Construction (TSC) ™ for maximum transfer of energy, and a Maesteri 8 layer vacuumed sealed leather tip for ultimate ball control---Zero Flex Slim ™ is ultimate tool for any player.
TSC™ For ultimate performance
Total Sweet Spot Construction (TSC)™ is a special 8-piece radial construction that extends the sweet spot throughout the entire cue shaft, resulting in unmatched power and ultimate control.
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Zero Flexpoint? for dead-on Accuracy
Go Zero! 12.75mm Zero Flexpoint Hybrid shaft is engineered with all of today's latest technology enhancements. Every shaft has Hybrids' 8 piece total sweet spot construction (TSC?) for radial consistency and maximum transfer of energy, Zero Flexpoint ferrule to drastically reduce deflection through it's special polymer/lightweight core, and is topped off with a Masteri 8 layer vacuumed sealed leather tip for ultimate ball control.
Lucasi Zero Flex Point? Shaft 3/8 x 10 Black Collar
MSRP:
Our price
My bs meter is pegged but I have no clue,never heard of this shaft or seen one.
Zero Flexpoint? for dead-on Accuracy
Go Zero! 12.75mm Zero Flexpoint Hybrid shaft is engineered with all of today's latest technology enhancements. Every shaft has Hybrids' 8 piece total sweet spot construction (TSC?) for radial consistency and maximum transfer of energy, Zero Flexpoint ferrule to drastically reduce deflection through it's special polymer/lightweight core, and is topped off with a Masteri 8 layer vacuumed sealed leather tip for ultimate ball control.
Lucasi Zero Flex Point? Shaft 3/8 x 10 Black Collar
MSRP:
Our price
My bs meter is pegged but I have no clue,never heard of this shaft or seen one.
I have one and It plays very well. Definitely low deflection. Personally I like it better than both the OB-1 and 314-2 shafts I've owned (a few of each).
Construction is different than the 314's as I don't think anything's been hollowed out at the front end. The ferrule is not capped and you can clearly see a thin tenon surrounded by some sort of dark brown material (maybe a composite?) which is then surrounded by the ferrule.
Construction is different than the 314's as I don't think anything's been hollowed out at the front end. The ferrule is not capped and you can clearly see a thin tenon surrounded by some sort of dark brown material (maybe a composite?) which is then surrounded by the ferrule.
I know I'm going to hate myself in the morning for asking...but..........
...Wouldn't a shaft with Zero Deflection result in an incredibly high Squirt coefficient on anything other than a perfect vertical axis hit?
Deflection = shaft getting out of the way
Squirt = ball getting out of the way
...Wouldn't a shaft with Zero Deflection result in an incredibly high Squirt coefficient on anything other than a perfect vertical axis hit?
Deflection = shaft getting out of the way
Squirt = ball getting out of the way
j!dub said:
Shaft flexibility doesn't seem to have much to do with the amount of squirt a shaft produces - stiff shafts can produce less squirt than flexible shafts. The only really significant thing seems to be endmass (density near the tip).
pj
chgo
Actually, in theory, stiffness can affect endmass (and squirt) because the transverse deflection of the cue will "involve" more mass during the brief period of deformation during tip contact. For more details, see:Patrick Johnson said:
Tests Mike Page, I, and others have done show that overall cue stiffness has little or no effect (e.g., see my comments after Diagram 3 in my August '08 article), but I think more stiffness experiments are required to fully understand various stiffness vs. mass effects. I hope to do better tests in the future; although, this might take a while (1-2 years).
Regards,
Dave
uh, i thought deflection WAS squirt. the amount that the cue ball goes off target, the reverse (the amount the shaft moves out of the way) doesn't have a name?
maybe' youre talking about swerve? the whole reason I want a LD shaft is to minimize swerve, because if you hit top or bottom, the less the cue ball squirts/deflects on the vertical axis.
maybe' youre talking about swerve? the whole reason I want a LD shaft is to minimize swerve, because if you hit top or bottom, the less the cue ball squirts/deflects on the vertical axis.
Johnnyz86 said:
Shafts deflect. Cue balls squirt. Swerve is the curve the cue ball follows as it travels down the table. Remember, you can never have a perfectly level cue, due to the rails. Since the cue must be slightly elevated, when you apply side spin, you are also shooting somewhat down on the ball. In extreme cases, we refer to the result as masse'....but in a normal shot, it's much less pronounced, and we call that swerve.
Steve
Huh? LD shafts don't minimize swerve. I don't know what the part in blue is supposed to mean.
pj
chgo
Steve,pooltchr said:
Good description. Here's a diagram that also summarizes the terminology:
I also have a concise, but detailed, summary of all English effects (with many links to additional resources) here:
Regards,
Dave
The lucasi shafts are made in the same factory as the predators, from what I understand. Only difference is that they are 8 piece, vs. 10 piece for predator, to respect their patent. The ferrule construction is supposed to be the same, although I don't know how that can be if the number of pie pieces is different.
I can say this. I play with the Lucasi shaft every day and for $140 bucks, I'd be happy to put it on anything that I play with. Oh, and I have plenty of predator shafts to compare them to.
tim
I can say this. I play with the Lucasi shaft every day and for $140 bucks, I'd be happy to put it on anything that I play with. Oh, and I have plenty of predator shafts to compare them to.
tim
dr_dave said:
And all we have to do is hit a 1/16" target (and control where the CB goes afterward). This game is too easy.
pj
chgo
It's quite simple, really...
Like someone said, my BS meter is pegged out. They may have a great innovation in cue design, but who can tell?
* What, exactly, is the "flexpoint," and what is "zero flexpoint?"
* What is "shorting the core," and what to THEY mean when they use the word "deflection?"
* Where is my cue's "sweet spot," and how can it be extended down the entire shaft? (To me, that's the funniest one.)
How about some useful stats, like the pivot point, and balance point for different weight cues?
I am a sucker for new technology, but all this gobbledeegook makes me even less inclined to buy their cue.
Does Lucasi have a rep on this forum that can explain themselves?
smoooothstroke said:
Like someone said, my BS meter is pegged out. They may have a great innovation in cue design, but who can tell?
* What, exactly, is the "flexpoint," and what is "zero flexpoint?"
* What is "shorting the core," and what to THEY mean when they use the word "deflection?"
* Where is my cue's "sweet spot," and how can it be extended down the entire shaft? (To me, that's the funniest one.)
How about some useful stats, like the pivot point, and balance point for different weight cues?
I am a sucker for new technology, but all this gobbledeegook makes me even less inclined to buy their cue.
Does Lucasi have a rep on this forum that can explain themselves?