Yuma is so remote when I looked at flights I needed a long layover just to get from there to Las Vegas, <300 miles away. Two or three layovers to get anywhere else in the US.

I've traveled to Manila for the Reyes Cup, and to Hanoi fir the Hanoi Open. I'm not going to Yuma.

The Old Jaybird said:

.$93.50

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Hungarian said:

$92.

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Bidderpreffered said:

It's actually a Palmer cue (often manufactured or distributed under the Adam cue line in the late 1970s and 1980s) featuring a signature or stamp for Cisero Murphy

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measureman said:

$1000 buy it now

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Chopdoc said:

I am in for $95.67

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It sold for $1000.00

the WPA rankings aligns better with reality now than it has done for 10+ years.

fargorate isn't up to date with #9 on the list obviously. and the ko brothers don't play much american pool at the moment. other than that i would take fargo

The one with most cash
And don’t forget the WNT ranking…
But who cares?

granted.

just goes to show how great those players were back then playing on wet slow tables with no air conditioning most times. both danny and ronnie were on the downside of their careers there.

notice how quickly they played and made it entertaining not like the greats now so much as its a slow drawn out wait for each shot.

New never chalked 4 point Ben Greene with faux ivory handle. $950 shipped.

I am interested. I would like to purchase this, I’ve never used this site, how does it go down?

maha said:

your absolutely right about cf reducing deflection. and i believe it or a substitute for it will be the shaft of the future replacing wood as us old die hards pass.

but deflection is overrated as a problem as can be seen for past greats.

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Past greats would have missed a lot more on today’s equipment with tight pockets.

Snooker players used to use very little side spin due to deflection as they play on big tables with tight pockets.
Nowadays with technology slowly catching up with snooker cues like using titanium ferrules that reduces mass and deflection, the younger players allow themselves to use more side spin.

When would Jack Cooney have been in his prime?

better to have him there and playing then to have him not want to run it it for a mere pittance of a dollar a person.

heck i have to pay 50 an hour for someone to do menial work around my yard and doesnt even have any equipment and uses my stuff.

your absolutely right about cf reducing deflection. and i believe it or a substitute for it will be the shaft of the future replacing wood as us old die hards pass.

but deflection is overrated as a problem as can be seen for past greats.

most players only have about a ten or so year span where they are at their best.
in the 60,s and part of the 70's no one wanted to play ronnie and for good reason you didnt win.

eddie kelly was right there as well but he fell apart quickly from drinking and hating playing pool.
he might of had the best stroke ever and more consistent than anyone.

i never saw bugs so just, hear say.

grady at his peak was probably the best in the world for a short time. he helped revolutionize the moving game. but his game went fast down hill with his health.

jack breitkopf was the best for the longest time and lasted. he played both the safe game and aggressive tops, as few could do both. he was around alot when i was a kid and knew him . good guy and showed us all kinds of crazy shots no one else knew back then,
i learned alot about playing back to the front from him and tommy halliday who were both the best in the east then.

artie bodendorfer was unbeatable for a long time but only on his pet table. although ill get backlash for that about his table only.
steve cook turned into a real monster and was right there on top. i was there when he first came on the scene at the stardust tournament. jansco gave him the name cookie monster as he tried to do that with no name players.
steve in a short time beat most everyone.

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maha said:

accordingly to you then with cf shaft a person now will make 90% of the shots he would normally have missed with a wood shaft. i took some liberty from your statement to help make my point.
i believe more misses come from not aiming in the right spot with engish as the object ball doesn't go in the same line as without it. that has nothing to with with deflection.

i would think weaker players might miss many shots when using too much english they dont need for the shot.
just using any english can affect the ease of finding the aim point.

just me with my wood shafts and big tips i hardly ever miss because of deflection. so i may be a bad judge of what deflection does to average players.

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Most CF shafts are not really low deflection, so that saying is not true.
However, a real low deflection shaft, wood or CF will reduce misses due to deflection either when applying side spin intentionally or unintentionally, it will not reduce misses by 100% but it will.
This is something that most pro players have realized and understood since Predator came out with the 314 shaft, but there will always be an old dog that can’t learn new tricks

skor said:

90% of the times that someone is missing a shot is due to deflection. The pivot system is far from being accurate.
With low deflection shaft, once you get used to, you miss less.
You can debate it until the ends of time, you’ll still be wrong…

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accordingly to you then with cf shaft a person now will make 90% of the shots he would normally have missed with a wood shaft. i took some liberty from your statement to help make my point.
i believe more misses come from not aiming in the right spot with engish as the object ball doesn't go in the same line as without it. that has nothing to with with deflection.

i would think weaker players might miss many shots when using too much english they dont need for the shot.
just using any english can affect the ease of finding the aim point.

just me with my wood shafts and big tips i hardly ever miss because of deflection. so i may be a bad judge of what deflection does to average players.