sjm said:

I've met a few people over the years who are the definition of stupidity.

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j2pac said:

Considering going to Vegas in late June. Having never been, if anyone could/would recommend places to stay/stay away from, do's, don'ts, etc, that would be great.
Things I'm looking into...
Hotel accommodations (preferably bedbug free).
Places to eat, shows, billiard locations, etc
My thanks to all in advance.

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vintagecollectibles831 said:

Surely, the shaft would feel smoother, without the bumpy sludge over the entire length of the thing.

I can play with a shaft that hits like shit, but this thing goes even further then that. It is completely unusable.

$500, for a shaft that is unusable? What were they thinking? No pool players at McDermott, who test their products?

I just do not get it.

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vintagecollectibles831 said:

Hi, seriously, I would be willing to spend that $20, if it will make this shaft usable. You really think it would?

Even if it were slick though, the sludge seems bumpy. Imagine an old used house cue. It woukd be like using one of those, if smooth.

I really just want to be
I am about ready to just buy a cheap Rhino.

Thank

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vintagecollectibles831 said:

I just received this pool cue, and it had a Mcdermott Defy shaft with it.

I figured that with a Glove, it would be usable, but lol, no, not even with a glove is this thing usable.

What in the world were they thinking, when they put on this sludge (black stuff), over the original CF(?), which I know is super smooth, in its raw form, I believe.

Anyways, like I said, even with a glove, the thing is not smooth in the least bit. I do not know how anyone is able to play with these shafts.

With that being said, I wonder if I could just have a local cue maker sand off all of that black sludge (lol, just going to call it sludge, because I have no idea what it is).

By the way, I did do my research on the shaft, and I believe what I have is the 2nd Gen Defy. It has Grey ringwork, and a Grey ferrule.

With some sort of very sticky black sludge going over the entire shaft. Very bumpy sludge too, lol. Bumpy, as in not the least bit smooth.

By the way, I had a Whyte Carbon shaft (Black version) about a year ago, and that thing had some sort of a black finish over the CF, and it too was very sticky, but only without a glove. With a Glove, it was super smooth, and I really loved it. I just hated using a Glove. That was my issue.

Anyways, I just can't believe that the experts at Mcdermott thought that any player would enjoy playing with this CF shaft, with whatever that Black sludge that they put over the CF is. The thing is unplayable. Well, I guess you could play with it. But, I can't imagine that any player would enjoy playing with the thing.

Anyways, I am just really bummed out, because I was hoping that at least with a glove, the thing would feel smooth, but no, I was wrong. It is just as horrible with a glove, as it feels without a glove. That is just my opinion though.

If you are thinking about buying a Defy, then I would be careful not to get this one, with the Grey ferrule.

Look for the one that Seyberts currently sells. It has a White ferrule. I read that one (the 3rd generation Defy) is smooth, and they fixed the issue with the sludge, lol. Hopefully it is just a Raw Carbon shaft, with no type of sludge added, lol.

I say that, because I see that some website dealers are still selling the 2nd gen shaft, with the Grey ferrule.

Thanks for reading.

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j2pac said:

Considering going to Vegas in late June. Having never been, if anyone could/would recommend places to stay/stay away from, do's, don'ts, etc, that would be great.
Things I'm looking into...
Hotel accommodations (preferably bedbug free).
Places to eat, shows, billiard locations, etc
My thanks to all in advance.

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HawaiianEye said:

I think you may want to change your description to "maple", unless you want some "male" shafts.

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jayman said:

It seems to 'Defy' logic.

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straightline said:

I believe this but consider, Big Mac is still afloat.
COINCIDENCE?

I think not.

On a brighter note I just measured one of my Luckys to see if there is a full 29" of cue without the rubber.

There is. Woot!...

Have you tried Turtle Wax Ice? It's 20 bucks a bottle but you only need a drop (unshaken - which might be just silicone) on a paper towel to slick up a cue shaft. Don't use it on the handle side. Way too slippery.

I sympathize regardless...

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GoldCrown said:

I'm pretty sure my payment has not been received as it is not showing as a PP payment. Should I wait until or resend tonight/tomorrow?

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onepktplyr said:

Looking for a cue. Budget of 2700 or so. Prefer wrapless fullsplice but open to anything. Must be straight.

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Island Drive said:

I would never recommend a Week vacation there, 3 days/two nights max.
Keep in mind, allot of the casinos allow cigarettes inside.
I know there are some neat areas to visit off strip if you've got a car.... the Hoover Dam is one of em.

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vintagecollectibles831 said:

Surely, the shaft would feel smoother, without the bumpy sludge over the entire length of the thing.

I can play with a shaft that hits like shit, but this thing goes even further then that. It is completely unusable.

$500, for a shaft that is unusable? What were they thinking? No pool players at McDermott, who test their products?

I just do not get it.

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JPB2 said:

“Additionally, took a nostalgic poker route for some poker action with cash games at Resorts World (very nice and clean poker room) and Golden Nugget (proper old school nit games“

I may have to protest this a little. I don’t play much poker now, but if I do, it may well be there. And if you are talking about the Duke of Fremont I can’t argue. But I have seen some real rocks, nut peddlers and stiffs in Las Vegas. The Golden Nugget doesn’t seem too bad.

One time a dealer was talking about old school Vegas. I dragged a small pot, tossed him a blue chip and said “ chop it.” Made him feel nostalgic and of course he got the whole thing because there are no quarters in the tray anymore. An old Vegas friend got mad at me for tipping $1 sometimes back when. .50 he stressed. And he wasn’t one of the real tight ones. Tip .50 in poker, get any comps you could, get those little edges. Vegas 101.

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markjames said:

skyline is owned and managed by pool players and the people that you will find there are pool players

pool players cannot afford the amsterdam or society prices- food, drinks, or table time

it’s not remotely close

and it’s not in an expensive upscale part of town, it’s a neighborhood and they treat people that way

the equipment is every bit as good as amsterdam without the constant vacuum cleaner noise, they do that after hours

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