Ok, sounds good. I live close to the Tiger Products location in Burbank so I was wondering iff that chip you mentioned could possibly be repaired by them. I can’t really see it in the pics.

I travel light.

Sum Ting Wong?

No idea, but that is a cool design.

Details, dimensions, specs, better pictures?

Yes, the middle cue is obviously joss. The cue on the right is long. How long?

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WildWing said:

I imagine you had it repaired?

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I just got it today.

Assessing all that now. LINK

Thinking Proficient or Ryan Theewen.

Ryan experimented with adhesives for vinyl veneers years ago. And he is a master of repair.

Chopdoc said:

So, I have these pictures posted elsewhere, but to keep things together I'll post them here. Forgive me if it is redundant.

This was a shipping accident. I plan to have the cue reconstructed, all the breaks are on the glue lines. It is an HC-140.

An interesting point is that this gives us an opportunity to see the construction, which is pretty standard A joint construction, nothing special except the Vinyl veneers. I will note the forearm is a nice piece of BEM which contributes to my willingness to have it rebuilt. It is remarkable to see how nice some of the wood is in the cues. Real ebony, nicely figured BEM, Brazilian rosewood, cocobolo, and more. I do think these cues have been underappreciated.

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I imagine you had it repaired?

hello said:

Bustamente, the hardest and most productive player for years has a high run of 7 racks...

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These guys patently eschew big omelets (my new expression for BnR packs). All the guys on tour pass all kinds of bnrs. I think they'd rather stay in the game than blow it on glory. They will economize fuel and systematically work the opposition, picking off the inevitable gains.

Buddy Hall said he ran six (I heard one handed behind the back but that's not reliable info), ran six and who beat him?

Have no idea where this goes. I'd frankly rather string 50 racks every time I get up.

maha said:

good players in the past naturally moved it to keep accurate shots without thinking.
and unless its way out of wack it isnt going to make you miss.

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The pool scientists will disagree with this line of thinking.

They will be losing three to one, or even worse, playing you and insist you aren't doing it correctly.

You have to do it their way.

slampro said:

Anybody know the model number for this cue? I have an email from Dan from 2021 stating it's a Joss but he doesn't have any records of it.
It says Joss on the joint with serial number F00049 with the 9 slightly askew. It has 6 points all the same size. I don't know when it was built, the woods or materials used, or anything like that. I bought it new and I've had it since 2006 - that's all I know.

Thanks in advance for any info.

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If Dan couldn't ID it by the number there is little chance we can.

Where did you buy it? From what dealer or distributor? That could help. More detailed pics of the forearm might help to. The butt sleeve is clear but the forearm is fuzzy.

I am digging into it myself. If @CajunPopeye looks, and I look, and Dan looked...and we can't find it...well, it could be pretty tough.

I just put an agentic AI on the task. This is the AI output, edited by me:

The "F" Prefix: Joss used letter prefixes to segment their production batches or to track specific limited editions, distributor exclusives (such as those made for major retailers like J&J America, Cue&Case, or Cuestix), or particular structural designs (like specific joint layouts).

If we can figure out the distributor or dealer they might be able to help.

Since you purchased the cue brand new in 2006, it was likely built between 2005 and 2006. Joss operates as a small custom shop that regularly produced standard model templates built with custom wood choices, modified point structures, or unique veneer color combinations requested by a buyer or distributor. They also made small batches of 50 to 100 cues featuring distinct geometric designs or unique inlays that were sold directly at trade shows or distributed exclusively to select billiard suppliers without ever appearing in standard retail catalogs.

Because your cue features a highly intricate design—characterized by complex window inlays in the butt sleeve and multi-colored veneers lining the sharp forearm points—it strongly points to being one of these limited, uncataloged custom runs. Without an archived internal build sheet matching prefix "F" to its corresponding work order, the exact model number remains a mystery even to the maker.

AI then asked the same things I want to know:

If you want to try and dig deeper, can you tell me:

• Where you bought it in 2006 (e.g., a local pro shop, an online distributor like J&J America, or a trade show)?
• The exact wood types (is that cocobolo or a stained maple in the butt sleeve)?

My thoughts, let's get answers to those two questions to get more traction.

And...it is possible this is 1/1.

Does 750 sound better?