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Todays Sneaky Pete cues

gregcantrall
dendweller said:
Doesn't matter what the cue looks like, you have to keep an eye on them.
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Another old fart story. 😉
I always kept my cue with me in a tavern. It went with me to the men's room. At the urinal I would place it behind me against the wall so it wasn't getting splashed. A Thief actually tried to take it as he passed behind me. I always kept it within my peripheral visible range and as soon as his hand touched it I gave a warning. "You have ahold of more than you want to F*** with.," Was my warning without interupt of stream. He released it to slink away. 🤷‍♂️
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Todays Sneaky Pete cues

gregcantrall
trob said:
They are supporting the game if they can afford it
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Back in the day....😉 The guys that showed up with All the high dollar gear to go with their fancy expensive cue, Wouldn't bet a dollar that water was wet. 🤷‍♂️ Well my first ask was always, "shall we play for a beer?" If that was accepted, after 3 I would propose $5. At that time 3 beers was my , uh natural condition 🤷‍♂️
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Todays Sneaky Pete cues

trob
skor said:
there isn't a cue in the world that once is screwed will look like a one piece house cue.
any new cue, a few days in and the seam of the joint will be visible on any wood to wood joint. In fact it would look so ugly that I prefer a sneaky pete with some sort of collars at the joint.
Another issue with a cue that is too "sneaky" is that some idiot might think it's a house cue and pick it up to use it...
In times where any APA2 players carry around a $3000 set of cues, you shouldn't have an issue getting some action with any cue.
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maybe your young lol but the first sneaky Pete’s were exactly that. They looked like a 1 piece . I have one that I could put in a rack and you’ll never know. at some point they got fancy. If you put a collar and a butt cap on it it’s no longer sneaky just a wrap less cue. To me there is a difference. I don’t have a problem with it.. it’s just not a sneaky.

Who cares what an apa 2 carry’s in their case. They are supporting the game if they can afford it let them buy it. Pool always seems to get in their feelings about that. In golf a 20 handicap buys a new $1k driver and no cares. Lol we just ask to hit a ball with it to check it out.
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What kind/brand of Mechanics Level to level a Pool Table

trob
bradsh98 said:
If it's a ProAm, I would bet my life that it doesn't roll absolutely perfect. You probably just haven't noticed the subtleties. I'm not knocking you, by any means... Most people don't notice the subtle drifts.

A ProAm has a plywood cabinet. It will move, throughout the seasons. I have a 9' ProAm, in my shop. It moves quite a bit, despite being in a controlled environment, on a concrete floor. The rolls may not be super noticeable, when playing. However, the levels don't lie. And, if you really take a close look, with a few slow-rolling balls, you'll see some drift.
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I’ve had it for 3 years .. I play every day and have been for over 30 years. So I’m not “most people” who get a table and hardly use it. Lol You can slow roll a ball in any direction you want and it doesn’t drift even the slightest. nothing is 100% perfect because we live in the world lol but I’ve never seen anything when I’m playing. Plus I always start and end my day with the drill off slow rolling the ball the length of the table and back to the tip of my cue to test my stroke. Again .. it the ball never wavers. Which amazes me because when I got it It was put on carpet. The gentlemen had it leveled perfect but I assumed once It settled on the carpet it would need adjusted but nope .. nothing. Maybe I just got lucky .
My last house when I had a valley and it was on 125 year old wood floors that yeah .. you could drive a truck across and not damage it but from season to season they didn’t slightly change and the one leg I would have to move slightly up or slightly down .
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Todays Sneaky Pete cues

gregcantrall
skor said:
is that some idiot might think it's a house cue and pick it up to use it..
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I had an extreme idiot not only try to use it but also refused to release it. His death grip was above the joint, so I griped it below the joint. He braced himself for a tug a war. I didn't pull but just started unscrewing the butt from the shaft that he had both hands on. It was almost completely unscrewed when he finally relented and released my cue.
Had he opted to continue the battle....my butt would have significant advantage over what remained in his hands. 🤷‍♂️
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The break jump cue picktured in my kit breaks down at two joints. Both are discernable but not obvious. The phenolic tip would have been an unpleasant surprise if I had allowed the idiot to hit a ball with it. 🤷‍♂️
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Todays Sneaky Pete cues

skor
there isn't a cue in the world that once is screwed will look like a one piece house cue.
any new cue, a few days in and the seam of the joint will be visible on any wood to wood joint. In fact it would look so ugly that I prefer a sneaky pete with some sort of collars at the joint.
Another issue with a cue that is too "sneaky" is that some idiot might think it's a house cue and pick it up to use it...
In times where any APA2 players carry around a $3000 set of cues, you shouldn't have an issue getting some action with any cue.
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So many tips to choose from.

skor
franko said:
20 -25 yrs ago all the Rage were Mooris I still have several stored in a Cigar Tube in Your opinion do you think they would still be any good ?
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I got some Moori tips from about 15-17 years ago when they changed a bit and were packed like pills
recently, I've installed a few of them and they are still good.
They used to be the best and the most expansive but today they are cheaper than newer brands. I would consider them today to be a good buy in today's prices.
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Custom and High End Cues on the Decline?

jlrowe
I agree that customs will be on the decline. In the past, custom cues were top of the line and production cues were more looked down on. Even when guys like Bob Meucci and Dan Janes were producing cues in massive numbers they still came from a custom background. Meucci and Joss was doing sponsoring and putting cues into the hands of Pros. These are the cues I aspired to have as an older GenX because that is what the Pros were using. 1986 Color of Money was my first exposure to pool and the prestige of a custom cue. Times have changed and we can't blame the younger generation. Nostalgia belongs to the ones who have lived it. They are exposed to Predator, Cuetec, and other big Production companies spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to market their cues, Low deflection shafts, carbon fiber shafts and equipment to make you shoot like a pro. They see their favorite professional players using these online not realizing they are sponsored by these companies. Until custom cuemakers can compete with large cue manufacturers in terms of sponsorship and marketing it will continue to decline. I hate that is has went this way. I am old school and love a custom cue. It is more personal knowing it was made by a one man or small shop, the materials, the pride and craftsmanship. Especially if it is done by a lengendary cuemaker. Many of them now deceased. Sometimes a story behind them. Like i said more personal and a great conversational piece.
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Mosconi Cup 2025, Dec. 3-6, Alexandra Palace, London

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jwilliams said:
In fairness, Tyler has historically performed well enough in the MC. Having said that, every time I've watched him play this year, he seemed to be struggling, which isn't always observable in this game based off win/loss records. I think he's just in a slump at the moment and probably should have sat this year's MC out.
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too much golf?
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Mosconi Cup 2025, Dec. 3-6, Alexandra Palace, London

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jay helfert said:
I see two options, neither one which is that good.

First of let's be clear about the make up of our team. We have one great player in the twilight of his career. A second player who is a Euro convert? Two more players who are journeyman pros. And a Bank Pool specialist. Kind of a patchwork team representing us.
Now let's look at the Euro side. Five high level professional pool players who make this their full time job. And they take their job seriously, working hard on their game to continuously improve. Their collective goal is to be among the best players in the world, and they are!
When you look at it realistically, you can see it's kind a mismatch isn't it.

Option A) Get a full time mental coach for the players on Team USA so at least they can have their heads on straight when it comes to playing in a high stress environment. I can attest to the fact that pool players are coachable and can be taught to play at their highest level. Even if only for one specific event.

Option B) Start all over with a completely new team. I'd like to take a group of five or six promising young players (18-23 years old) and spend a year developing them and their game to prepare themselves for the MC. We do have talent here. I've seen it. But they need some good coaching and instruction to be world class players.

I would100% guarantee that given the chance a completely new team would fare far better than what we've been seeing the last few years. They won't dog it is all I've got to say. There is a way to get past all that.

Can you imagine taking a group of college kids and beating the Russians at Ice Hockey? It could be done in Pool too!

If the powers that be would fund it (maybe to the tune of 100K) I would take on that role for one year of my life. We all know that's never going to happen though, so it is only my little pipe dream.
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i like the option B, clean slate, they'll lose but so does this lot. problem is that would have to circumvent the rank system which isn't fair or probably even possible.

SVB, fedor will get in on points. sky won't be captain anymore so he's gonna need to get in on points too next year. tyler could challenge him for the third automatic but i doubt billy can. lukas can get in on points too.

that leaves the wildcards. my suggestion would be that no matter what pick two young guns. lukas, eric roberts, lazaro martinez, sam henderson, someone like that. get a captain like johan or lely in early 2026, have him assess this group of youngsters over the first 6 months and eventually pick two. spend quality coaching the rest of the year. this team won't win the MC but the next year they may be at least competitive. plus SVB won't be playing forever, need to build for the future
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