But who's to say that everyone likes carbon fiber shafts or complete cues for that matter , my long time friend Frank McGowan played with one cue on either a 9' table or a 7' bar box yes it was a Balabushka cue , yes he had two of them but he played with one way more than he would with the other cue .
When you walked into the Broadwater Corner Pocket you never knew who,would be in there playing or even drinking for that matter with a variety of production cues and even a few custom cues .

Myself I would play with a old Adams Jim Rempe cue , or a Meucci but my favorite back then was a C 18 McDermott cue .
Now all of them are retired from regular play so to speak and I now use a Mike Gulyassy cue .

dr_dave said:

Good explanation of “squirt” and “swerve.” For those interested these effects, along with how they change with everything, they are illustrated and demonstrated here:

squirt, swerve, and throw effects​

For those for whom it is not yet “second nature,” the System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS) can be very helpful. It automatically corrects for “CB offset” (the net effects of squirt and swerve) over a wide range of shot speeds and distances, and for any amount and type of spin.

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I saw "SAWS" before SAWS saw me.

Practicing for thousands of hours by myself as a kid and watching and playing the good players, I was able to experiment with almost every possible shot, over and over and over.

At some point, the brain picks up what is happening and you "see SAWS" in your mind when you prepare for a shot.

Even though you may experience your ups and downs, do not confuse this with see saws.

Really good intentions, really bad history, but stuff happens. The thought is a good one.

SA96 said:

Big pockets are boring.

The best part of 9 ball is players missing, especially on the 9.

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This is a good argument against 9 ball if correct. I don’t think it is correct though.

A few months ago I was at the range qualifying for renewal of my CCW permit.
All of the guns on my permit are pretty standard versions and I chose my guns
on a variety of factors. One thingI hadn’t seriously considered was a custom gun.

There was a retired Highway Patrolman at the range the night I was there. He was
firing a Bill Wilson EDC X9 2.0 (9mm) - 3.25” custom 1911 design pistol. It is a $4k
gun when you add sales tax, registration, etc. it costs a lot more than my handguns.

Was it worth it? I had to find out and so I introduced myself and asked about the gun,
features, lead time, cost, accessories, accuracy and shootability. The owner said the
best way is to fire the gun and he handed me a couple of 15 rd. Mags and said here
ya go. Of course, I reciprocated and said he could try any of the handguns I had with
me. It turned out to be a enlightening experience. Yes, custom guns are built much better.

I walked away wondering why I hadn’t gotten one by now. I’ve spent more than that on
a pool cue and more than once. If a piece of wood built and adorned to look and play
the way you like, isn’t a gun that will last ad infinitem when cared for worth as much?

Besides, you don’t carry a pool cue to protect you from threat and harm but it’s exactly
why I carry a gun. I have it on my person every day but I don’t shoot pool every day. A
gun has a lot more significance and after firing the Bill Wilson custom 1911 design, I want
one badly, Better quality is easily discerned both in terms of a pool cue and a handgun.
IMO, the price difference is cost justifiable and the intrinsic value is always going to be high.

Big pockets are boring.

The best part of 9 ball is players missing, especially on the 9.

HawaiianEye said:

For those that can't mentally visualize this, the cue ball, if struck on the left, will intially go to the right but venture somewhat back to the left at some point.

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HawaiianEye said:

Understanding and controlling that "arc" from the hit of the cue ball to the point you hope to hit on the target requires lots of practice and thought when attempting a shot.

If you have played at a high level and understand your cue, this becomes second nature.

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For those for whom it is not yet “second nature,” the System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS) can be very helpful. It automatically corrects for “CB offset” (the net effects of squirt and swerve) over a wide range of shot speeds and distances, and for any amount and type of spin.

mikemosconi said:

Yes correct it profits exactly $30 every 15 minutes in the cue tip business, apparently- not knocking it - just saying that a big following in the tip install business is very good money !

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It's not all profit - so you do even 5 tips a week, every week, which seems like a lot, revenue is a whopping $175. Seems like it may be a profitable but not significant in terms of revenue, let along income, part of some overall business related to pool?

If you shoot a cue ball down the table with extreme English on the horizontal equator of the ball, the cue ball will intially slide down the table like a spinning top.

Once struck, the speed of the shot, gravity, the friction caused by cloth, and the length of the shot will cause the cue ball to start turning over into a top spin in the direction of the Enlish that was put on the cue ball.

For those that can't mentally visualize this, the cue ball, if struck on the left, will intially go to the right but venture somewhat back to the left at some point.

Understanding and controlling that "arc" from the hit of the cue ball to the point you hope to hit on the target requires lots of practice and thought when attempting a shot.

If you have played at a high level and understand your cue, this becomes second nature.

Brother Ron said:

This is a result of not knowing how to properly use your equipment.... or a lack of ability to properly use it.
Anyone with acquired knowledge and experience can tell the difference between a quality tip and a run of the mill tip.

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I'm not so sure I'm even shooting with the correct end of the cue.

dr_dave said:

I like to use ”squirt” for the initial CB deflection angle off the tip (since that is the correct use of the term). For the important description of how far the CB is off at the OB from the cue direction, to be clear, I like to use “net CB deflection” (the combined effects of squirt and swerve).

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Since many people use “squirt” and “CB deflection” interchangeably, it is probably better to have a different term for “net CB deflection” (the combined effects of squirt and swerve). People (including me) have tried “squerve,” but it hasn’t stuck. Maybe “CB offset” is a good alternative. The offset of the CB from the aiming line at the OB is how much a player needs to adjust their aim for a given sidespin shot, based on shot speed, shot distance, amount and type of spin, cue elevation, and conditions.

What do you guys think about using “CB offset” or “aim offset” instead of “net CB deflection?”

Quesports said:

They should send the US team to the Philippines for four months before the Mosconi Cup!

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Found Jay Helfert’s burner account

Or have Tyler not dog 2 simple outs on the hill and the match would have been 6-5 instead of 8-3 lol those two 9s he missed turn this from a close match to a blow out. There is no fix other then play better

HawaiianEye said:

If the Mosconi Cup is meant to be entertaining and have a level playing field, several adjustments need to be made.

Have bigger pockets, slow down the table, get rid of the bouncy rails, get rid of jump cues, play 2-foul push out, winner breaks, races to 11, and have a 30-second shot clock.

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Some good ideas, but Entertaining and this are inseparable. Especially with those never seeing this before.

HawaiianEye said:

If you hit enough balls you know what is going on without any need for words.

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If you just play and don’t talk about what is going on, you don’t need words; but on a forum like this, it helps to use words most people interpret correctly.

HitHrdNDraw said:

The are making 9-ball more and more like snooker which benefits the technical players (Euros)….

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I thought the top Chinese players were the best.

If the Mosconi Cup is meant to be entertaining and have a level playing field, several adjustments need to be made.

Have bigger pockets, slow down the table, get rid of the bouncy rails, get rid of jump cues, play 2-foul push out, winner breaks, races to 11, and have a 30-second shot clock.

Patrick Johnson said:

Yes, we need different words/phrases for both the immediate angle and for the final result, so we can communicate clearly about them.

pj
chgo

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If you hit enough balls you know what is going on without any need for words.