Bob Jewett said:

It's too bad they didn't have the time to discuss getting out of that double kiss. Sometimes you can.

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please explain how ?

If it's too close to call then it's too close to call. There is really no need for a referee, or a group of observers, to use the "physics" to influence said referee's decision based on observation of which ball was contacted first. "We know best" or "I just know" isn't objective.

I have the utmost respect for those here who back up what they say with real data, real physics, real interpretations - probably more respect than they realise, at least two of them are heroes and bordering on legends with their analysis of the game of pool. There are shots that lowly me "can" call when I referee but I don't. I guess we will never know how well the referee in question "could have" called Yapp's "foul" but they didn't. In real time it's close, really really close - they can't, or a least shouldn't, call it. Video replay as an aid to the referee of course changes everything. Same in all sports. But it wasn't used (I hope it will be eventually in all pro tournaments because the technology is becoming really cheap and really available).

By all means, analyse the shot. But let the referees do their job.

It's too bad they didn't have the time to discuss getting out of that double kiss. Sometimes you can.

dont play if the t.d. doesn't have the balls to keep things moving doing whatever it takes.

if enough players stop playing or complain and stop they will fix it. a broken wheel never gets fixed if it isnt turning.

all it takes is to tell all players that they need to get out of the chair and shoot. if they stall at all they will be punished with loss of turn or match.
and all slow players wont be invited back. that right there solves most of the problems.

I think it has more to do with the wood than the inlays, points or rings. I have merry widow Viking from the 80's that hits nice as do my D series McDermotts but my best hitting cue is an old Titlist. I cant say its a great hitting cue because that is far too subjective, if people all felt the same about feedback there would never be a soft tip sold. Probably not a carbon shaft either, unless everyone uses only soft tips on them.

alphadog said:

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refs make mistakes. that is part of the game. it happens in all sports and can work for you or against you.

many shots come up that are too close to call. so the tie goes to the runner here and the shooter gets his point.
it works both ways. only when it goes against you do you complain.

if the opponent doesnt bother to go up and watch or ask the ref to watch closely that is on him. if he isnt allowed, then that is a fault in the rules.

As I recall when I won our WI state BCA tournament they deducted taxes from my winnings.

freestroking said:

looking for 3/8x10

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I make them myself. PM me if you're interested in my work. thanks