Re Filler and his match time change at the witching hour....

He should check with Corey Deuel
IYKYK.

I've been meaning to post this one for a while. I've had it for 14 years
Bois de Rose aka Madagascar Rosewood.
I'm obviously not the photographer some of you are.

Biloxi Boy said:

Why not run separate contests for different ability levels all at one time? This would create the "jamboree" or "extravaganza" atmosphere and give all levels a better experience. Just a question. I just have the idea. Better minds will have to work through the details. The jamboree aspect of the old DCC is what I would hate to see lost to future generations.
There would be a lot of impediments -- handicapping, financing, scheduling -- but it seems to me that "saving" DCC might be worth the price/hassle.

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What needs saving? It's been getting 500 per year for 10 years. I stopped going because I'd starve to death and didn't want to deal with that again.

Bangers like me WANT to challenge themselves against top players. Not play in our own class that we can do any weekend at home.

fjk said:

Sure, there will always be exceptions. But if we had to bet the average or median age of current Bushka owners, and the line was 60 years old, I would bet the over.

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fjk said:

Sure, there will always be exceptions. But if we had to bet the average or median age of current Bushka owners, and the line was 60 years old, I would bet the over.

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Having said already that I intuitively understand what you are saying.
I would also say I have no way on Planet Earth to understand and agree with the number 60.
Pulled from somewhere, but I am clueless where you got it.

What percentage of Bushka owners are right-handed?
How many are married?
How many take their cue to a poolroom?
How many are women?
How many are over 180 pounds?
How many live east of the Mississippi?
How many Bushka owners also own a Szamboti?
How many have been to Valley Forge at least once?
How many Bushkas have been sold since 2020 Covid started?
How many…….
Again, if you hear me you know I get your point. Just find declarative statements fuzzy.
People use your argument with sports cars. Have you followed Mecum?
……………………………………. Guns.
…………………………………..…Coins.
………………………………………Stamps. Rare pool tables. Etc….not exceptions. Really not.
Btw, I sold a 1995 Josswest a couple hours ago for $12,000 to a fine young man.

Will Prout

It takes too long and the scheduling is terrible. Not that surprising that a lot of pros beg out.

skogstokig said:

don't think that is a major factor. it may matter a little bit, but going there and not playing banks / 1p / possibly bigfoot doesn't make much sense either

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I think it may be.

DCC changed the 9 ball from races to 7 to races to 9 (big mistake, IMO), to appease the BCA/WPA about 15 years ago, and make it a ranking event. That was to draw in the EU players, and I believe it did draw in more.

Then, more recently, it was a MR satellite event. Some legit pros were chasing those points for sure.

Now, its nothing, so points chasing pros are staying in bed.

Just a question. I just have the idea. Better minds will have to work through the details. But why not run separate contests for different ability levels all at one time? This would create the "jamboree" or "extravaganza" atmosphere and give all levels a better tournament experience. The jamboree aspect of the old DCC is what I would hate to see lost to future generations.
There would be a lot of impediments -- handicapping, financing, scheduling -- but it seems to me that "saving" DCC might be worth the price/hassle.

wtf are top/mid/low pros complaining about? This tournament has more dead money than any tournament in existence. It's like playing a 20k added event for a $160 entry fee, with byes for the pros until the money round. They don't usually face another legit pro until they are in the money. If anything, they should all be happy about the structure.

Now, the no-food, no-sleep, no-schedule situation, for sure that's worth complaining about.

DCC is MADE for bums and hustlers wearing anything they choose. It's not a pro event. It encourages gambling. Why are we trying to make it into something it's not?

ibuycues said:

I get what some posters are saying. From strictly an investment point of view.
What they are missing is that there are at LEAST two other ways to consider the ownership.

Just as an example, I personally saw cues that sold in the past year (approx) for $55,100, $77,000,
$107,000, and orders for $120,000 and $100,000 even. That’s just in my little corner of our
genre. (Not me!). Every one of the cues involved different cuemakers and I assure you age was not an issue.
This doesn’t include the many, many cues that sold for $15k-$40k. And age is all over the place.
Don’t necessarily judge by personal experience.

Will Prout

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Sure, there will always be exceptions. But if we had to bet the average or median age of current Bushka owners, and the line was 60 years old, I would bet the over.