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Orochi Pro Jump Cue

timothysoong
Orochi Pro "Full Carbon" Jump Cue

The Orochi Pro Jump is a 3-piece ultra-light yet powerful jump cue.
Its 13mm carbon shaft delivers quick, strong elevation—trusted by Japanese pro Norio Ogawa.
Includes a 5.2" extension for long-distance jumps and improved accuracy.

- Cue Features
• Full Carbon Butt & Shaft
• 13mm Orochi Carbon Jump Shaft
• Navigator Break Impact
• Navigator QR Joint
• Delrin Joint Protector Set

- Cue Specifications
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Weight
Shaft: 4.64oz
Forearm: 4.59oz
Extension: 2.57oz

Length
Shaft: 29 inches (738mm)
Forearm: 12.6 inches (322mm)
Extension: 5.16 inches (131mm)

Diameter
Tip: 13mm
Joint: 21.4mm
Buttcap: 26mm
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Price: $550 OBRO shipped express worldwide

For inquiries, please send me a PM.

Thank you,
Tim








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Discussion: Focusing on the cue ball compared to other sports

Cornerman
DieselPete said:
Digging into my biomechanics background...

Sports in which you look at a target tend to be ones in which you are holding the projectile.
You look at the dart board
...the bowling pins
...the catcher's glove,
...the basket
...the wide receiver

Sports in which you look at the ball (or object you are striking) is when you are not holding it.
You look at the soccer ball when passing and shooting
...the golf ball
...the baseball when batting
...the hockey puck when passing or shooting

So, what makes pool different?

We have two targets. Strike the CB, so it moves and strikes the OB. Under the normal rules, we would look at the CB last because it is not an object that we are holding.

HOWEVER!

We have tremendous stability in our set up, our bridge, and our stroke. The cue ball is not moving. Striking it squarely is nowhere near as complicated as hitting a golf ball with a 70-110 mph swing. The CB isn't moving, and we shouldn't be either (other than a very controlled and straight stroke). It is a very controlled or contained action and strike.

For that reason, we can look at the OB even though we are not holding the CB.

DOUBLE HOWEVER...

When striking the CB is more complicated, like a jump, masse, sometimes shooting off the rail, and when tree topped badly, I bet many people do look at the CB last.

EDIT TO ADD: Some golfers that are incredibly compact and dependable in their putting stroke have tried looking at the target (the hole or target line), which is like OBL. But even that stroke has enough moving parts that I don't love it on putts of any meaningful length.
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Golf putting has two targets: the ball and the hole or imaginary spot on the green. Pool has three targets. It would be like if golf had some other ball that our ball had to hit to combo it into the hole. If that were the case, then golfers would have the same discussion of whether to look at which ball to look at last. If they currently look at their golf ball last in a normal set up, it would be interesting to find out if they would do something different in that imaginary situation with a second ball.

When I’m completely out of stroke, I have to look at the cueball last just to make shots because almost invariably I’m not hitting where I think I’m hitting when I get back to the table after a layoff (queue the helpful people who will start giving me online lessons without seeing me shoot in person). Once I can repeatably stroke it straight, which could take a couple of weeks to be honest, I fall back to looking at the object ball last, because this game isn’t about just pocketing balls. At higher levels, the “shot” encompasses a whole lot more than target practice.

That’s my input related to the original question as well, but the breakdown including golf inspired me to add my thoughts.
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Lucasi Lux72 for sale

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Lucasi Custom limited edition midnight cue w/ alternating zebrawood & imitation bone inlays

Uni-loc joint

Around 20oz with the weight bolt, 18ish without

11.75mm zero flex LD shaft W/ Tiger Everest Tip

Bought it brand new in January but it just doesn’t feel right in my hands.

$600

Prefer not to ship, Located in Northern Virginia
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secret to long table bank shots

Side-Pocket
I may be way off base here, but after watching videos on numerous methods to bank shots off any rail, I still don't know which is the best method or system. My personal preference after reading both of Freddy Bentivegna's books, is fractional aiming of the OB based on how it lines up to the banking rail. This typically is the method I use to make most of my bank shots and, since I am only an amateur, I make about 35% of the banks I attempt. My accuracy is higher on straight back banks on the short rails.

After all of the systems I've looked at, I still am wondering what system do the pros use? I see players like Thorpe, Woodward, Van Boning, Chohan and others, Reyes in a class by himself, do unbelievable banks and they slam those shots into the pockets. I'm just wondering if they use one system, a combination of several, or they just have the vision for the angle after playing for so long.

It would be really nice to have a path to study one proven method that reallly works for all bank shots, or maybe to know that there isn't just one method that fits all.
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Orochi Pro Break Cue

timothysoong
Orochi Pro "Full Carbon" Break Cue

The Orochi Pro Break Cue uses full carbon fiber construction to achieve extreme lightness without sacrificing power.
Faster swing speed, solid impact, and explosive breaks; built for serious players.

- Cue Features
• Full Carbon Butt & Shaft
• 12.9mm Orochi Carbon Break Shaft
• Navigator Heartbeat Break Tip
• Navigator QR Joint
• Delrin Joint Protector Set
• Made in Japan

- Cue Specifications
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Weight
Shaft: 4.59oz
Butt: 14.25oz (Adjustable)

Length
Shaft: 29 inches
Butt: 29 inches

Diameter
Tip: 12.9mm
Joint: 21.4mm
Buttcap: 31.45mm
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Price: $825 OBRO shipped express worldwide

For inquiries, please send me a PM.

Thank you,
Tim








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