slide13 said:

Yeah, where are you shipping to op? Are you sure your info is correct. I just tossed a hat into my cart and shipping was $6.69 for UPS Ground Advantage. Maybe there was a site glitch or something? Try again.

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I’m in AZ. The hat was $30, the total was $66 and change. I thought maybe I’d accidentally ordered two hats. That’s when I saw the shipping prices.

SSP said:

Glad you love the shaft but the shaft does not put English or draw on your shots, what it does is transfer the energy YOU are putting on your shots more efficiently, you will find you can play with less English and Draw and move the cueball more precisely and when you do need maximum spin it delivers that as well, you are getting the exact same results as I got, I picked up a second shaft in case a tip popped off, installed my favorite tip and both shafts perform exactly alike, this is another benefit of CF shafts, especially Becue shafts because of their engineering, their shafts play consistent.

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Thanks for the advice!!!!!!
Just played a set today and was using "less" spin. Got much more accurate, making much more pots with the object balls but what really surprised me is the positions, english was kept to a minimum. I could concentrate more on making the shots rather than trying to power them in. I am not that good (APA 5) but managed 2 break and run-outs on a 9 foot table. I have not had any when playing with him on a 12 game match. I am really starting to like this Becue Prime II shaft!

I think that I will go with the original Perimeter Light company for my pool table light once I buy a table in my new home. I would hesitate to buy an Amazon offered light- yes it is cheaper- why? why? --sorry but investing thousands in a table and then paying an electrician to do a correct overhead light install- I would hesitate to just grab any light off Amazon just bc it is much less expensive.

Everyone can choose to do whatever they want- not knocking anyone's personal decision - but after living a long time you learn that cheaper is rarely better, sometimes- but not too often-- especially when an install is involved- for the do it yourselfers- do you really want to end up doing it twice; way before it should need to be done again?

IDK- maybe someone here can firmly attest that an amazon perimeter light is the same or better than the Perimeter light that has been tried and true in the billiard world-- one cost $321 and the original Perimeter nine foot is about double that price-- again WHY?

rack 1: almost straight on 8, hard to get on 9 but got a thin cut and made
2: left thin on 8 but got good position for almost straight in 9
3: normal, good leaves except for 7->8, kept it easy otherwise
4: left a very thin 8 but made it and took hit to 9 pushing it out in the open
5: same as 4, also moved 9 after a very thin cut on 8
6: left straight in on 8, did rail first kick to pot it but left a very thin bridge shot on 9, angle was good for pot but hit it too soft and it didnt reach the pocket
7: left again very thin 8, made it but scratched with cb
8: textbook run, left a nice 20-40 degree cut on each shot for easy position, first time that got a really good position for the 7->8, every attempt this far had to draw the 8 with quite a lot of power or shoot it at awkward angle
9: again had to draw almost straight from 7 to 8, good pot and speed but caught the jaw on the way back and left CB center table, leaving a long table kick which i overcut
10: second time getting good position for 7->8, almost scratched on the way back for 8 but left it good and finished the run

result: 7/10

better than my guess of 3-5 score. definitely got lucky in the sense that had to make many tough recovery shots (thin cuts) that couldve easily been missed, and only 2 of 10 racks did i get good position for 7->8, others having to draw it quite hard or a few times do a thin cut. for opening strategy, first few attempts i placed CB near center table drawing it back there, but from attempts 3-10 i put CB near rail on other side of the 4 and similarly drew it back to center from there, felt more reliable to get good shape that way. overall a good effort for my standards, wouldve been happy with 5/10 or so. if you play this such that hitting the other balls counts as a loss, then it wouldve been a 5/10 since two racks i hit the 9 while potting 8.

another good result is that i never missed a shot between 4 and 7, always failing at 8 or 9, im happy with that.

also, note that i used balls 4-9 instead of 1-6 just so it feels more like a rack of 9-ball.


(Played on a 9ft Gold Crown, normal 4.5inch pockets. Wrote this all into my notepad app inbetween sets so didn't bother capitalizing etc. properly )

Patrick Johnson said:

If you want to double-the-distance you have to start with the estimated shot line.

pj
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?????
i may be having a definition problem
for me double the distance is looking center cue ball to center object ball
find the CONTACT POINT TO THE POCKET
on the object ball
double the distance from center object ball to contact point to find aim line

maha said:

yea bill, join the list of old farts hating change.

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I don't hate change, I just hate no one ever wants to ''make a game''. Knock on your door, work it.

Oikawa said:

Yes, this is correct. And yes, I use the 3D points because thats where the contact/opposite contact points are in reality, so for me it's easier to just use their real positions and not flatten it out. But in theory it's the same whether you flatten the y-axis out or not, the x-axis position of the GB center is what matters at the end, no matter how you get there.

The only caviat with that image is that the real contact point position would be different for that cut shot, but it's besides the point. The method is what you asked about, and the description was correct, even if the image has an incorrect judgement of the contact point.

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yes my diagram was more about the gist of things
i did not measure things out precisely

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Shipping is insane on about anything. Im a wal mart plus member….they shop for me and deliver it for 50 a year and I get free paramount tv and free shipping on anything and wal mart will have about anything like Amazon now. I have a little money but I will NOT pay 36 bucks for shipping on anything. Ill live without it.

I think I will place another order for 10 Ultraskin tips while shipping is still 4.00 --
Should be all I ever need and total will be less than 4.40 each shipping included.

I don't think I've ever paid for shipping from them...

Rusty in Montana said:

Pick me I'm now a bar league pool player because I don't have a 4 1/2' x 9' table within 120 miles one way .

When I did stop in at Brothers Billards where they do have both 7' and 9' tables a friend offered to playa few racks of 8 ball on a 9' table , it had only been 25 years or close to it since I last played on a 9' table at that time because of family obligations .
When it was said and done I won more games than I lost . later on I played in the Big Sky State Games Senior Division and finished 4th out of 35 players , yes those matches were played on bar diamond bar tables at best around home all I've got to play on regularly are valley tables not my favorite but such is life .

As for gambling I do when its a tournament and I've placed in the money more times than not even when there's been so called or self proclaimed " road players " entered .

Many years ago when I lived near the Hardin Corner Pocket and yes in those days I played on the 4 1/2' x 9' tables instead of the bar boxes I was asked to come down to a bar downtown as two " road players " were beating everyone for whatever they had been playing for .
One was called Dakota the other Meryl it was a double elimination tournament the game 9 ball single game and the entry fee wasn't to much $ 10.00 maybe $15.00 ? Anyway I played and beat the locals and then I had to play Dakota and Meryl long story short I walked out with the cash and both of them shook my hand and they both said they had under estimated me , sadly we never got to play again and I believe both are long gone before their time .
Even the bar this took place in also is gone its a Memorial Park for a fallen Police officer who also was a friend of mine back in those days , even the Corner Pocket is a empty building and the owners have also passed away .

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Thx for sharing. Same story in southern ky too bar tables and mostly recreational drinkers on them.