sciarco said:

Is there anyway if you paid with paypal of getting your money back. Hope you get your money back.

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It’s ok. I paid with friend and family.
The guy is pretty well known in his area, the cue is t bad. I can easily get the butt cap change out and have it re-drawn signature on it but that will take out the authenticity of the cue. So I’m selling it back so the next owner can chose of what to do. It play nice, and good.

skogstokig said:

no it's probably pat. glaswegian is rough but this sounds even more inland and unintelligible (i'm conditioned by scottish work contacts so i understand it fine). quoting p.j. o'rourke from the national lampoon magazine "foreigners around the world":

scots:

their fumbled attempt at speaking the english language has been a source of amusement for five centuries, and their idiot music has been dreaded by those not blessed with deafness for at least as long

there's worse stuff in there so i can't post the full article, probably not in NPR even lol.

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I miss Doug Kinney (sp?) and Nat'l Lampoon. High level wit that got me through college in the 80s

One of my favs!

The case is still for sale.

Even trophy wives lose their brilliance.

I have one with a White Collar. Please let me know if interested. It came with my Tiger TL-2. Let me know if you are interested. The shaft is located in Camarillo Ca.

Soooooo. . . What about the 2X4 George that dl281 inquired about?

fastone371 said:

Isn't possible for the cloth to be that slick?

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... unless it was sprayed or wiped down before play with a wax or lubricant like Silicone spray.
... or unless the balls were also polished before play with an unusual cleaner or wax.

I did a video many years ago showing how what your clean the balls with has a big effect:

I have a Predator LE Road 8. If you are interested let me know. It is located in Camarillo California. I can send pics and or a Video.

fastone371 said:

How did the waxing of the cue ball even become a thing? I mean who intentionally plays pool like that, I can maybe see it for trick shot stuff but regular pool???

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$250,000. If you are losing, you have no morals, and you want to catch up, wax on.

T411 said:

You are assuming that the be cue ball was waxed in both matches. Even if they were, were they waxed “equally well?” There are too many variables to ever know the answer to that question. It’s all a guess.

I just find all of this so fascinating that it’s just now mainstream when it seems like all the pros know about it and nothing was ever said. it’s seem now that everyone is talking, they all seem to have partaken.

IMO that makes any crying less relevant. Lets see how professional events deal with it moving forward- that’s the real question.

I thinks they should just go old school and play with balls that have been played with and have no sheen. That way it’s obvious.

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I actually assume that all balls were cleaned with Aramith cleaning agents. They are official Aramith products which makes it legits. I clean mine with those before swapping out to soap/vinegar/alcohol mixture solutions. Balls cleaned with Aramith cleaners will always be a lot slicker where as the Mixture behave more like typical and common balls in most Bars


But then again, I spoke to pro players and they all know that waxes and cleaning will affect game plays. Doesnt mean it will impede them to the point that they couldnt compensate for it though.

Most pros know that pro tournaments are all on tiptop felt conditions and balls cleanliness, and compensate accordingly. That is where there game begin. They also hustle in Bars and so on...does it mean when they lost, they should blame on not playing with tiptop conditions ?