billiards_watch said:

I hope Aramith ball cleaner change their formula and add the more waxy substance. Ball will stay a lot cleaner. They don't do it because they want you to continue to buy their cleaner. The gloss on the ball wears away after a game.

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After giving this whole polishing/waxing/slicking controversy further thought IMO it started from industry interference in the game. Back in the day, players didn’t even like playing with brand new balls. Taking care of your equipment is and has always been a thing and part of that is cleaning the balls but polishing… that was not a thing.soap and water is all we used. May father would have me use toothpaste of some of the balls and more on the cue ball because it would get the dirtiest. That was the extent of it.

Just like they’ve pushed jump cues which the industry has now normalized. Never mind professional players would have ditched those things long ago. Now the industry normalized not just cleaning but polishing. And once that caught on, they conveniently introduced “restore” products to counteract the damage polishing causes and if you know anything about the polishing process it’s probably highly unlikely that those restore products even do what they claim. It’s all part of a money making cycle: polishers, polish, restorers none of which were part of the game before the marketing kicked in. Now that it’s all normal that evolved into the players finding a way to emulate a new set of balls at any moment. I don’t think what it has evolved into actually came from them trying to cheat at first… maybe ever.

Now players can simulate a brand set anytime they want. But this shift wasn’t player driven it was industry market driven, shaping what people think the game “should” be, just like with jump cues.

Even in the NBA, when the league tried introducing new balls in games (likely under pressure from manufacturers), players pushed back… they hated them. That’s the difference: in pool, the industry says jump, and everyone jumps… pun intended!

People always think as humans beings we have “free will” but we don’t… monkey see monkey do. Industry and power have known that long ago.

nataddrho said:

I just bought a 3C-U Revo, and use it with the BK Rush Predator break cue butt, which I already have. This was a combo recommended to me by @Poolmanis . I think it is great.

I am a cross over player coming from using 11.8 and 12.4 Revos in pool, so the adjustment was easy. But front-hand English adjustments based off of squirt have always been easy for me to figure out within 1/2 hour.

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Thanks. Btw did you try shaft with any other butts?
I really like home stiff pool break cue butts feels and works with heavy carom balls.
Normal pool cue butts go spaghetti like when hit carom balls with faster speed..

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Ball lubing should be allowed. It's a different game but legitimately pool as well.

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I was always good with the trophies . I got rid of a ton of them when we down sized. I never cared much about the money I won.. I guess gamblers care more about that because it’s how they measure who won lol I got a job for money.
I guess my favorite example is of all the tournaments I won there is one I won with 3 friends. It was a large tournament that took 3 days. It was exhausting but we all played great. We all made great shots or had tough outs when it was needed. I was younger and the feeling leaving that tournament was worth more then the stack of money I got for winning. I have no idea what I spent that money on but the picture I have of the 4 us standing at the table with our cues after we won it has been hanging in my pool room for years and thats worth more to me.