Why don't more bars lease Diamond pool tables?

This thread is TDLR; as far as I can tell, so I will try to summarize:
  1. There is no Diamond lease / share profits program that I could find. They do have a financing program listed here:
  2. Many local operators / vendors (not manufacturers) seem to offer either revenue sharing or lease / rental programs for both Valley and possibly Diamond tables. For example, this site:
  3. I have played on some very nice Valley tables in my 50+ years of playing pool if they are maintained and setup correctly with quality rails plus high grade felt and if the foundations of the tables are sound (rail bolts tighten correctly, slate and its bed are not damaged or warped, pockets are in excellent condition, etc.). Yes, they are not Diamonds, but not every bar wants or needs Diamond tables.
  4. On ball sets: Yes, the default Aramith Premier line with the modified stripe balls and the green Valley cougar cue ball (mud ball) can get quite tired over multiple years of use. My recommendation is to get a personal set of Dynasphere Bronze / Vanadium balls for players that care about the hit of a quality set of balls and usually have a quality cue stick or two (one for breaking) that they travel with to one or more bars. But there are some considerations to make when bringing your own balls with your other usual hardware:
    1. The bar table's ball return might not be open and your cue ball does not come down the ball return if a scratch is made. Solutions are:
      1. Use the green Valley cougar cue ball (ugh).
      2. Upgrade to the purple Valley cougar cue ball (a little better one that is labeled as tournament quality and will work with the ball return). Here is a link:
    2. Look for bars that offer free pool with ball returns open to use your own set or ask the owners if you can rent the table with the ball return opened so you can use your own set. They even might let you keep your ball set behind the bar so you do not have to travel with it (this is what I do and we use either a red circle cue ball or the included Dynaspheres cue ball).
And on a closing note, most bar owners don't really care about the condition of their bar tables. And if they do, they charge more for pool or drinks / food or both. It is about a $1000 on the west coast to do an 8 foot Valley table for quality rails and felt including proper labor and setup. That can be a big hit if an owner has multiple tables that get a good amount of play. Even a bigger hit to the owner if there are clueless players spilling drinks, trying jump or masse shots incorrectly or just sitting on the tables which all result in premature wear and damage.
One follow up to all of this. Be careful about purchasing / renting / leasing Global bar tables. I've been told by two different reliable installers that getting new rails for them involve taking the rail assemblies off and shipping back to (one of) the rail manufacturers to fit them as they are different than Valley tables. Have never done this so am no sure 100% this is factual, but the two separate installers seemed quite confident about it.

The new U S. pro pool tour

I think ESPN which now has committed to showing some pool would be well served in producing a Round Robin 8 or 9 international tournament with the top ranked players. The prize pool could be significant in Pool Terms say $250 K that would get the players interest. Say 10K for participating and it could be shown any time ESPN needed to fill spots. The international component kinda adds a Ryder, Davis and World Cup type billing which would attract viewing interest. Pool on tape delay can work well to draw out important happenings in any particular match. It also gives an opportunity to dig into a players bio/life story.

Looking for Meucci Theme Cues

I have made the bold decision to acquire some Meucci theme cues
(Gambler, Tomahawk, Road Agent, etc).
Preferably Meucci Originals, but doesn’t have to be.
Condition either excellent original or complete restoration.
Trades possible. Ya never know.
Rarer the better.
Send me a private message if you have a cue and interest in selling or trading or…

Will Prout
I have this one signed by Robert Meucci himself. Second Cue From the right.
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ChalkGate Definitive Answers

So you are saying that chalk does not wear off of balls during play? I have seen large blue marks on the cue ball after someone breaks, a few shots later that blue mark has almost vanished, where does it go?? The majority of people that I see play generally wipe the cue ball off before they break, even league players. Of course you will see balls in bars especially that look like they rolling them around outside on the concrete sidewalk, you just have to know that those will throw a lot.
It does wears off but slower than picking up new chalk marks

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