dquarasr said:

And then there is the hybrid pause and transition Efren employs, with an “extra” pre-stroke. Go to time stamp 24:00…

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"That's my boy, taught him everything he knows!"

Well, maybe not.(grin) However, that final practice stroke does the same thing my smooth transition does, connects the practice strokes to the final stroke. A stop at the transition seems to largely disconnect all of the practice strokes from the final stroke. With no pause at the transition the final stroke starts at the cue ball, goes backwards, transitions , and moves smoothly forwards. With the pause, the final stroke starts after the pause largely undoing the benefits of the practice strokes. So it seems to me anyway.

Hu

I feel that for us mere mortals there's what I call the learning curve with any new to us shaft or cue , for myself I need to play quite a few racks to start to get the hang of it so to speak while some others claim that the learning curve happens nearly without much effort .

For myself I find that old favorite cue combination and use it when the proverbial chips are down .

This is one of the main reasons why I miss having easy access to a 9 ft table where I can set up a shot or drill and work my way through the course of becoming more familiar with the new cue / shaft .

Yes it can be accomplished on a bar table if you have a pocket full of quarters ha ha but the 9' hour table is more enjoyable for best results .

In other words when a person wonders about this or that shaft or cue they need to try it for them selves because there isn't a one size fits all as we all know but refuse to admit to when it comes to pool cues , so bite the bullet and crack out the wallet and spend the cash until someone opens up a supply house when a person can go and try each and every new cue out there which I'm not holding my breath until it happens .

As always you're results may vary !

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lfigueroa said:

With a time limit players will game the clock.

Any decent player knows how to go into lock down mode. If you don't need anymore balls you can just stall and bunt balls all day long and give your opponent nothing. Two and a half hours into the match one guy can shut it down and win.

Lou Figueroa

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Sounds like a pretty easy tournament to win then if you're capable of getting a lead on someone.

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Hammie, that clears it up for me. So the main one is the flatter setup, three fingers off the second diamond, a touch of low right, and you are cutting the wing ball into the bottom right corner. The other one is the tight one, right up against the rail with only your middle finger down, high right, and the cue ball comes around the bottom of the rack to the middle of the table.

I can picture both of them now. The part I keep coming back to is the cue ball finishing in the middle on that second one. When you play it, are you mostly watching where the cue ball ends up, or are you trusting the high right to do that work and just focusing on the wing ball?

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pooldawg8 said:

I`ve dealt with both of these guys, it doesn`t get much better than these 2 jay birds.
Straight up good people

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Thank you Sir.