Bob Jewett said:

SVB is 20 points higher. I think that could be legitimate improvement. I think the increased competition and motivation has improved a lot of players.

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Not a chance in hell!

iusedtoberich said:

... The players are not any better because they are in the higher 800's now. Thats FargoRate creep. See this list from 2015 of many of ...

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SVB is 20 points higher. I think that could be legitimate improvement. I think the increased competition and motivation has improved a lot of players.

skogstokig said:

that's probably true, but it's also true that some of the "same names" were less complete players in 2015, like jayson and lil ko.

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Yes, for the younger players for sure. The ones who were 40 then, and 50 now, and have a much higher rating now.....doesn't pass the sniff test.

Ģüśţāṿ said:

This list is wrong. It states right on the Fargo website that fewer than 20 people are over 800.

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This list is from the Fargo website.

iusedtoberich said:

Nothing surprised me. There has been enough time now for the superiority of the Filipino's who don't travel much to get on the biggest lists.

The players are not any better because they are in the higher 800's now. Thats FargoRate creep. See this list from 2015 of many of the same names:

https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/us-open-fargo-ratings-of-field.407858/

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that's probably true, but it's also true that some of the "same names" were less complete players in 2015, like jayson and lil ko.

This list is wrong. It states right on the Fargo website that fewer than 20 people are over 800.

Nothing surprised me. There has been enough time now for the superiority of the Filipino's who don't travel much to get on the biggest lists.

The players are not any better because they are in the higher 800's now. Thats FargoRate creep. See this list from 2015 of many of the same names:

i like my horses, murphy going like a train after that tight L32 match, selby through very comfortably.

but i have a feeling that mark allen may "surprise", that this is his time. the way he played the last frames in L32 looked like a man on the mission. and he's lost weight, which shows motivation and character.

bbb said:

please explain how ?

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Go to the table and mark the balls for a problematic shot like in the video, so you can repeat it exactly. Try different spins and speeds. One pocket players deal with ducking kisses all the time.

I install the collar first. If the shaft doesn't have a center drilled hole I do that first.
When the collar is installed. I turn everything to size, then do the threads, then I finish the shaft, so I take into account the thickness of the finish when turning down the shaft collar.

45 countries surprised me. that's a lot.

spartan said:

Am surprised Germany has most in Europe. Tot Poland, UK or Russia will have more

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they have a very active league, so i guess it makes sense, but i too expected poland to have more then germany. could be an issue of fargo coverage also. russians are perhaps less covered, travel less since 2022 etc. i've seen some of the gorst generation play in heyball events.

skogstokig said:

the saudi WC seems highly unlikely at this point

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Saudi Arabia have just announced a WWE Event for June.

So looks like they are opening up again.

Fingers crossed we get an announcement soon.

Nogbert said:

interesting... thanks for the clarification; never would have known that intentional fouls are a common thing in 14.1

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A common situation: your opponent pockets the break shot and scratches without hitting the rack. You have ball in hand behind the line looking at a 15-ball rack. What do you do?

Hopefully Mr. Orcollo will get back stateside if the payouts entice him so. I enjoyed watching him recently in some Heyball event.

iusedtoberich said:

Local tournaments should ALL be single elimination, luck counts, 9 ball. ...

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That will end in about half the time as DE. Sometimes even faster than that. If people demand at least two matches, have a consolation tourney for the first round losers, if there are plenty of tables.

With SE, you could add a game or two to the match length and still finish much earlier.

Just wanted to update my post now that my Rhino has arrived with the leather brown tip. It does have that clear layer, like the Time does - but it's clearly a multi-layer leather tip.
Plays great. It's a much harder tip than the Tiger sniper I'm using on my Katana 3 shaft. I'm enjoying playing with this shaft so far. Making all the shots I usually make, but on long shots with side spin, I'm having better success - possibly attributed to more confidence which is most probably new shaft syndrome...
Here's a shot of the cue with the unknown tip.

If in great condition they sell in the $400 range - 350 to 550. One time they were 150 new on e bay.

Updated photos