I know lots of people want to pile on Matchroom. Its made plenty of errors while the Predator Billiard Series has greatly improved.

Yet Predator alone can't provide enough money for pool pros. Predator only has eight events all year, and not all have big payouts like the ones in Vegas and St. Louis.

If Matchroom killed the WNT and got out of the pool business, you'd figure it would sell the rights to the US Open, WPC and Mosconi. Predator would be the likely acquirer.

I don't expect that to happen, but the crux of the matter is the same. There just doesn't seem to be enough money in pool.

Pool players want better. I get it. Predator has certainly upped its game. But aside from flashy prizes for tournament winners, Predator payouts for the rest of the field are as skimpy as the WNT tournaments.

Only a few players are really making any serious money via tournaments (outside of China.) If we look at the past year, the list would include just Biado, Yapp, Gorst, Filler, SVB, FSR and Neuhausen.

Another dozen or so appear to rake in $100,000 or so before expenses if WNT and PBS events are combined.

El Toro said:

But not everyone is going to spend money on a lesson and may look into something different to help with aiming.

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Which is why I suggested that you elaborate on the benefits and differentiation amongst the other options in the market.

I can't say for sure but I just finished going through the process of locating one and getting here and set up. In my case I ended up buying a GC4 but I was really just looking for any Gold Crown. It seemed that most that I found were on Facebook which was an issue for me because I don't have Facebook. The prices for what appeared to be pretty decent tables ranged from $2500-$4500. I noticed several that looked good on Ebay but most were in the NE part of the country and I am in Oklahoma.

I spoke with the folks at Billiard Restoration Service and they quoted me $8K for a completely restored table they would find. I told him I would shop a bit and if I could not get one here under $5k then I would probably buy from him. I paid $4250 for mine with new rubber and felt. Got to pick pocket size and delivered about 2 hours from where they were located.

I never once said this gadget is better than taking a lesson from someone. My point is to say that I don't know why anyone would trash talk something that can help with aiming when he has never used it. That's it. I totally agree that a lesson is the best thing to do. But not everyone is going to spend money on a lesson and may look into something different to help with aiming.

I just sped through the match. On every break the second ball closest to the breakers side dressed up for a combo, except when it was kicked away which I think happened 3-4 times.

It’s not my product. I have no need to prove your gadget works. And before I would spend money on a gadget, I would spend the money on taking a lesson from Bob.

TheGrandWazoo said:

I will be waiting for your explanation on the superiority of this device and why Bob is mistaken.

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I will be waiting for you to upload a video of you using that device and consistently making a ball through it without hitting it. Since you're a betting man, I bet you couldn't do it twice in a row!

Coos Cues said:

I'm 67 and played in a 610 and under 10 ball 180 miles away from home last year. Full field of 48 and I headed home after losing the point match at 8 pm. There were about 4 matches backed up on the losers side. All the kids there couldn't believe I was quitting but after 11 hours a man's got to know his limits. Probably would have waited until 1 am and got third place anyway

Funny how what we want to get out of the game evolves as we get older.

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I had this match under complete control until I didn't Those little errors

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I will be waiting for your explanation on the superiority of this device and why Bob is mistaken.

And how can you make your comment about how cheap the aim tool is? Do you know how much it is? Or are you making that comment out of ignorance? Until you hear from that horse's mouth, then I guess you don't know.

Todd Carpenter. John Davis blank. PM me.

skogstokig said:

the saudi WC seems highly unlikely at this point

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Maybe, but I doubt the WPC won't be held at all. You'd think the Saudis would let it be moved if necessary. Guess we will know soon enough.

Read every word and trashing is not what I took away from his comments. I read him saying there are better cheaper ways of achieving the same goal. And I would bet that Bob has tried similar devices and his opinion is formed by experience.