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Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

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dquarasr said:
My thoughts on this are that it matters not one iota. Shot success depends solely on speed of the cue tip at impact, direction of the cue tip at impact, and precise placement of the cue tip on the cue ball.

Now, what DOES matter is the stroke. A smooth stroke, with good timing, good acceleration, good tip placement, and sending the cue tip exactly down the intended shot line, is much more conducive to successfully incorporating all these things into every shot consistently.
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I agree with everything else you said except that the question doesn't matter, for me it's an interesting question mostly due to the fact that many people (in my experience, mostly mid-level players but also some 600-700 fargo ones) tend to believe the opposite of what I am claiming.
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Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

dquarasr
My thoughts on this are that it matters not one iota. Shot success depends solely on speed of the cue tip at impact, direction of the cue tip at impact, and precise placement of the cue tip on the cue ball.

Now, what DOES matter is the stroke. A smooth stroke, with good timing, good acceleration, good tip placement, and sending the cue tip exactly down the intended shot line, is much more conducive to successfully incorporating all these things into every shot consistently.
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Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

Oikawa
Jaden said:
No, it doesn't matter except that it DOES matter. Yes, it only matters what happens at the point of contact; however, everything done before and after contact is what determines the consistency of what happens at contact.

It will be different things for different people that gives them the best consistency of stroke, but there are certain things that are almost always necessary.

Acceleration at point of contact is one of them. If you're decelerating at point of contact, the balls just aren't going to react predictably.

If you're bridging at the cue's pivot point, you can get away with all sorts of crap, some of which was actually taught as what to do in the past. One of those things is swiping. swiping left or right while stroking for side spin. It's DEFINITELY not what you want to do to have the most consistent shooting, but it can work.

If you want to get into the weeds of it, just let me know. I can talk about this stuff for hours.
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I tried to be clear about emphasizing that I am not talking about consistency, but the absolute limit of what is even possible, I don't disagree with you one bit about the consistency part.

Put in another way, I am not trying to ask about whether good timing helps in consistency (it does), I am asking on a more theoretical level if certain shots are literally impossible with bad timing, because this is what many people have claimed to me in real life and I've disagreed with them.
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